Chris Laker, comedian, and Jack Antonoff, Grammy-winning musician and producer, discuss being an artist. IG: @jackantonoff @bleachersmusic @chrislaker
Blinders Not Bulls**t
The only criticism that hurts. Knowing when something's not done. If the spirit of the work gets cut out. The relativity of the term "mainstream." Making art in tough times. Not getting too invested in trends. Hard truths and putting on blinders. Working diligently. The threatening quality of announcing to others you intend to be a comedian.
How much to contextualize your art within a time period. The protest song. A piece of art versus a public service announcement. Writing with others versus alone. The things people continually tell you to fix in your work. Comfort in the fact that no one is for everyone.
Recognize the Bastards
Creating one’s own work versus producing other people’s work. Knowing when something’s ready and unfinished jokes. Art bros, Yes men, and the fear of losing it. Making others think it was also their idea. The false idea of “spotting talent.” Give artists a budget to make things and fuck off.
The Harvard Try
Writing to feel yourself. Artists you wanna be versus be friends with. Making art that comments on your success. Being a god versus being in a room together. No one asks you to be an artist. Asking people to look at what you make. It’s more embarrassing not to try.
The Vapors of High Fives
Chris and Jack discuss the benefits of delayed success as an artist, the selling of youth culture, and growing up — body and food fixations, — positive Nihilism, and not destroying your own work.
The Dream Machine
In the first episode, Chris and Jack discuss subcultures and scenes, struggling in school, the pressure for back-up plans, and releasing singles versus albums. Follow @ChrisLaker and @bleachersmusic on Instagram.
Chris needs his own podcast!
Fascinating perspective from Chris and a wonderful vibe too. There’s gotta be some other podcast set up for him somewhere- that would be fantastic!
For when you’re feeling a bit masculine.
Casual Conversation Between Two Creatives
I’m a huge Jack Antonoff fan so naturally I ran and did not walk when I saw this was out. I enjoyed how I felt as though I was sitting listening to two friends talk- because that’s exactly what I was doing. This felt natural while being entertaining. I’m excited for more episodes. Please keep it up!