Jack's info/recommendations New Kingdom Gaming website: newkingdomgaming.com Shepherd Financial Group website: shepherdfinancialgrp.com Jack's email: jack@newkingdomgaming.com Book recommendation ("Habits of the Household" by Justin Whitmel): https://a.co/d/03XR5t5f Intro Song: "ALWAYS" by Kings Kaleidoscope Outro Song: "Cross The Ocean" by Lecrae Interview Summary This conversation traces Jack’s testimony from a skeptical, pleasure-driven worldview into a life reshaped by Jesus. He shares how a Young Life camp and the story of the paralyzed man in Mark 2 awakened him to the reality of sin, spiritual brokenness, and the authority of Christ. What stands out is that his faith didn’t begin with a dramatic instant of perfect change, but with a long process of learning to follow Jesus. He talks honestly about years of struggle, temptation, and unlearning old habits, along with how spiritual disciplines like prayer, fasting, and Scripture slowly rebuilt his worldview. Jack also explains how his calling developed through unexpected seasons: theology school, teaching, ministry, business work, and eventually pastoral leadership. A key turning point came while serving in an oncology ward, where a conversation with a suffering patient clarified that he wanted to care for people spiritually, not just pursue a medical career. He then reflects on his years in ministry, especially his work in a Ukrainian/Russian church in Spokane. During the war in Ukraine, the church became a place of practical mercy, reconciliation, and refugee support, which he describes as a powerful example of God working through people and circumstances. The episode closes with a strong emphasis on faithfulness over success. Jack encourages listeners to abide in Christ, trust God’s timing, and remain steady in whatever season they’re in, whether that means direct ministry, family life, or vocational work. His story is a reminder that God often shapes a life through quiet obedience more than flashy moments. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 00:48 Family Background 01:00 Young Life 06:28 College 09:12 Post-Undergrad 15:52 Vocational Ministry 21:42 Worldview Before and After Knowing Jesus 25:55 Pivotal Moments where Worldview Changed 31:09 Fasting 38:06 Russian-Ukrainian Church (Pacific Keep) Experience 43:51 Russia-Ukraine War's Impact on Pacific Keep 49:33 Transition to Accounting Firm from Pacific Keep 56:08 "God calls people to things for seasons" 01:05:08 Life Since Pacific Keep 01:09:24 How Jack and Lindsey Make time for each other (away from kids) 01:12:14 Jack and Lindsey's Early Relationship 01:19:41 New Kingdom Gaming 01:25:01 Trusting God When Sharing the Gospel 01:36:12 Closing Thoughts