After The Magic

After The Magic

This is After The Magic, a limited series podcast in which Gam Dias and Sergio Maldonado will discuss the impact of Agentic AI on various industries. www.afterthemagic.com

Episodes

  1. Tony Fish: Navigating a constant state of transition

    09/26/2025

    Tony Fish: Navigating a constant state of transition

    Is it possible that, for all the talk about AI adoption and its impact (despite a few good studies proving the opposite), organizations are not at all able to cope with any of it until we solve essential structural issues? Could it be that optimizing for efficiency and effectiveness proves to be the wrong model as we move forward? Tony Fish is an investor, author and self-confessed maverick. He has been building digital businesses since 1990, with a first exit in 1995 and many businesses founded, co-founded, sold and listed after that. He thrives in complex, groundbreaking and uncertain environments, being currently focused on rethinking corporate governance models, ethics and AI, data policy and evidence-based decision making in volatile situations. He is a speaker and author of four books, as well as a visiting fellow for entrepreneurship and innovation at Henley Business School has taught at London Business School in A and Ethics, the London School of Economics and Sydney Business School. His latest book is “Decision-making in uncertain times”. References: * Tony Fish, “Decision-making in uncertain times: How can we become more aware of the consequences of our actions on tomorrow?” (Jan 2024) * Navigating How to Cross the Chasm: AI Governance (Tony Fish on Medium) * Tony Fish on LinkedIn * Simon Wardley, “Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge: Part One - Topographical intelligence in business” (Nov 2020) * Tony Fish, Why is data eating your culture before breakfast * My Digital Footprint, a blog by Tony Fish * Open Governance (Tony Fish on Medium) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    41 min

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This is After The Magic, a limited series podcast in which Gam Dias and Sergio Maldonado will discuss the impact of Agentic AI on various industries. www.afterthemagic.com