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This is After The Magic, a limited series podcast in which Gam Dias and Sergio Maldonado will discuss the impact of Agentic AI on various industries. www.afterthemagic.com

Episodes

  1. Dr. Joanna Michalska: human awareness and trust as the foundation for safe, scalable intelligence

    MAR 9

    Dr. Joanna Michalska: human awareness and trust as the foundation for safe, scalable intelligence

    The Agentic AI revolution is marching forward at full speed. What should humans invest in in the face of some much change? How do we discern reality? Why do we get the impression that the role of the “AI Ethicist” is in fast decline? Dr Joanna Michalska is a strategic advisor, researcher, and senior executive who works with boards and executive teams on how AI-enabled systems are reshaping how organisations operate. She is passionate about the science of decision-making in complexity and about helping leaders step up accountability as authority shifts into algorithms and infrastructures. She brings senior leadership experience from global financial services and holds a PhD in Enterprise Risk Management, focusing on building real intervention capability so responsibility does not become symbolic in the rapidly accelerating reality of AI-driven organisations. References: * Dr. Joanna Michalska on LinkedIn * Ethica Group: Effective Authority under Automation * AI Ethics, Risk and Governance Research Centre * Joanna Michalska at Fintech Connect * GAEA Talks - Who’s Accountable When AI Decides? Balancing Risk & Innovation with Dr Joanna Michalska This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    32 min
  2. Just wait

    12/12/2025

    Just wait

    An improvised exchange covering a wide range of topics, including: the pace of technology, Agentic Commerce, bias, AI judges, Empowerment Tech, MyTerms, AI Ethics and the environment. With Gam Dias and Sergio Maldonado References: * EU Commission opens antitrust investigation into Meta’s new policy regarding AI providers’ access to WhatsApp * MyTerms Agreement - PDC AI, Iain Henderson This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    49 min
  3. Tony Fish: Navigating a constant state of transition

    09/26/2025

    Tony Fish: Navigating a constant state of transition

    Is it possible that, for all the talk about AI adoption and its impact (despite a few good studies proving the opposite), organizations are not at all able to cope with any of it until we solve essential structural issues? Could it be that optimizing for efficiency and effectiveness proves to be the wrong model as we move forward? Tony Fish is an investor, author and self-confessed maverick. He has been building digital businesses since 1990, with a first exit in 1995 and many businesses founded, co-founded, sold and listed after that. He thrives in complex, groundbreaking and uncertain environments, being currently focused on rethinking corporate governance models, ethics and AI, data policy and evidence-based decision making in volatile situations. He is a speaker and author of four books, as well as a visiting fellow for entrepreneurship and innovation at Henley Business School has taught at London Business School in A and Ethics, the London School of Economics and Sydney Business School. His latest book is “Decision-making in uncertain times”. References: * Tony Fish, “Decision-making in uncertain times: How can we become more aware of the consequences of our actions on tomorrow?” (Jan 2024) * Navigating How to Cross the Chasm: AI Governance (Tony Fish on Medium) * Tony Fish on LinkedIn * Simon Wardley, “Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge: Part One - Topographical intelligence in business” (Nov 2020) * Tony Fish, Why is data eating your culture before breakfast * My Digital Footprint, a blog by Tony Fish * Open Governance (Tony Fish on Medium) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    41 min
  4. Jason Rebholz: Redefining cybersecurity for an Agentic AI world

    08/18/2025

    Jason Rebholz: Redefining cybersecurity for an Agentic AI world

    Jason Rebholz was born and raised in incident response, where he spent over a decade responding to cyber attacks from nation-states, hacktivists, and financially motivated criminals. After hanging up his IR hat, he was the CISO at Corvus Insurance for four years, where he ran internal security, threat intelligence, and risk services that built innovative ways to protect tens of thousands of policyholder networks. He is now the co-founder and CEO at Evoke Security, where he is focused on helping companies secure AI in their environments. Jason has a strong YouTube following and is a Top LinkedIn Voice. References: * Jason Rebholz on LinkedIn * Jason Rebholz: AI: Security & Privacy Risks (Evoke Security) * Jason Rebholz’s YouTube channel * The Jason Lemkin and Replit experience: vibe coding fiasco (PC Magazine) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    33 min
  5. Angel Maldonado: How Agentic AI reshapes Ecommerce

    08/06/2025

    Angel Maldonado: How Agentic AI reshapes Ecommerce

    How will AI Agents affect Ecommerce and the Retail sector? Have LLMs reshaped keyword-based product search? How can leading retailers ensure proper governance of their AI stack while maintaining their competitive advantage? We have asked Angel Maldonado Angel Maldonado is founder and CEO at Empathy Holdings, home of Empathy.AI, MotiveMarket, VisiblePrivacy and the Search & Discovery products Motive.co and Empathy.co that power over 3000 small and large shops worldwide. Angel started his career working for Autonomy where he helped clients on pioneering enterprise search projects for seven years before founding Empathy.co. He is currently based in London. (Disclaimers: Angel is Sergio’s brother. Sergio is an investor in Empathy.) References: * Angel Maldonado on LinkedIn * Empathy Holdings * Maxi-Cool: a cooling system for self-hosted AI models This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    42 min
  6. Eduardo Ordax: market perceptions of Agentic AI

    07/30/2025

    Eduardo Ordax: market perceptions of Agentic AI

    What is the gap between the hype and reality? Are we merely rebranding basic workflows as ‘agentic’ simply because we’ve added a layer of LLM outputs? In this episode, Gam and Sergio speak to Eduardo Ordax, Generative AI Lead at Amazon Web Services. With Eduardo, we have tried to understand what companies in the real world are doing about Agentic AI today. We have also discussed practical steps to extract tangible value from Agentic AI deployments with the tools available to us today. Other concepts have been mentioned along the way, such as the NLWeb protocol. References: * Eduardo Ordax on LinkedIn * Introducing the Model Context Protocol (After The Magic) * Gam Dias: Agents Unleashed (Masters of Privacy, April 2025) * NLWeb (GitHub) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    30 min
  7. How the Model Context Protocol unlocks the promise of Agentic AI

    07/30/2025

    How the Model Context Protocol unlocks the promise of Agentic AI

    In this first episode Gam and Sergio will introduce the concept of the Model Context Protocol, which they believe is an essential first step to understanding AI Agents. They will also lay the groundwork for the conversations that will follow. References: * Anthropic: Introducing the Model Context Protocol * Gam Dias: Agents Unleashed (Masters of Privacy, April 2025) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.afterthemagic.com

    23 min
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This is After The Magic, a limited series podcast in which Gam Dias and Sergio Maldonado will discuss the impact of Agentic AI on various industries. www.afterthemagic.com

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  • Creator
    After The Magic
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    7
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Gam Dias & Sergio Maldonado
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    After The Magic