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Join us in the world of financial crime prevention, where we delve into the powerful synergy of Artificial Intelligence and cutting-edge technology. This podcast brings expert insights, no-nonsense discussions, and deep dives into topics like Anti-Money Laundering, Payments Fraud, and more. Hosted casually and informatively, we invite A-listers from the industry to share their experience and learnings.

APR 6

The Other End of the Wire

Most of us in fraud prevention have never spoken to someone who has been inside a scam compound. Ling Li has. A Research Fellow at the University of Melbourne with a decade in law enforcement experience and field roles across the ICRC, UNHCR, and the University of Liverpool's Modern Slavery Research Centre, Ling co-authored SCAM: Inside Southeast Asia's Cybercrime Compounds — one of the most rigorous accounts of how these operations actually work. In this conversation, she traces the 30-year lineage of the industry from Taiwan to Fujian to militarized compounds across Cambodia and Myanmar, unpacks the victim-offender overlap that makes conventional law enforcement responses inadequate, and explains how AI has expanded the operational reach of these networks in three specific ways. She also raises an alarm that the current crackdown is generating a new crisis: thousands of survivors stranded without shelter or repatriation support, being recycled back into the same compounds. Fraud is a human problem. This episode is the evidence.In this episode: How Ling discovered the scam compound world in Cambodia in 2022 while researching bride trafficking — and why almost no international organisations were responding to Chinese victims at that timeThe 30-year arc from 1990s Taiwan phone fraud to Fujian scam towns to today's militarised, multi-continental operations — and why every crackdown relocates rather than eliminates the industryThe victim-offender overlap: four archetypes from pure criminal to fully coerced victim, why the majority fall in between, and what a proportionate law enforcement response looks likeHow AI has changed the operations: real-time multilingual translation, face-swapping that defeats video verification, and automated phishing site regeneration that outruns detectionThe post-crackdown crisis: thousands of survivors sleeping on streets across Southeast Asia, no food, no shelter, no repatriation — and being approached by traffickers offering the cycle againLinks: Ling Li on LinkedIn — LING LI | LinkedInSCAM: Inside Southeast Asia's Cybercrime Compounds, Verso Books — Amazon.com: Scam: Inside Southeast Asia's Cybercrime Compounds: 9781804296905: Franceschini, Ivan, Li, Ling, Bo, Mark: Books

32 min
FEB 11

Forensic Cyberpsychology: How AI is changing crime and human behavior

AI is changing more than workflows—it’s changing how we communicate, what we trust, and how criminals manipulate people. In this episode, I’m joined by James McDowell, Executive Director of the Cyber Crime Research Institute (CCRI) and an adjunct professor at American Military University, to unpack forensic cyber psychology: how human behavior shifts online, how “truth” gets distorted (deepfakes, social media personas), and why scam victimization is often about cognitive states and social engineering, not intelligence. We talk through the Eliza Effect (why people humanize chatbots), automation bias (over-trusting systems), and the duality of technology—how the same tools that increase efficiency can also amplify fraud and exploitation. We also dig into revictimization: how shame, underreporting, and social withdrawal can create a cycle that fraudsters intentionally “reload.” References: LinkedIn Profile - James McDowell, PhD | LinkedIn Amazon Link - Mind behind the screen - https://a.co/d/09Y9lYVc CRI - Cybercrime Research Institute

23 min
12/19/2025

Investigating Modern Fraud: A Law Enforcement Perspective

What does financial crime really look like from the law enforcement side? In this episode, Victoria Frosch Bowes joins us to share a frontline view of modern fraud investigations — from her time as a Detective Constable working complex fraud cases, to her current role in securities enforcement. We discuss how Victoria found her way into financial crime, what makes fraud cases uniquely challenging for law enforcement, and why collaboration between police, banks, and technology providers often breaks down in practice. The conversation covers: Why financial crime investigations are more complex than many people realize Lessons from real-world fraud cases, including SIM-swap enabled schemes The practical challenges law enforcement faces when data, timing, or context is missing What banks and technology vendors could do differently to support investigations How AI, automation, and crypto are changing fraud — for criminals and investigators alike Why fraud prevention can’t stop at detection alone This episode is a must-listen for anyone working in fraud, compliance, payments, or financial crime prevention — especially those building systems meant to support investigations downstream. Audio Credit:Music from ⁠⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠⁠ (free for Creators!)https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good-folks/w...License code: CWFYBYTSKHIO0WBU

34 min
12/11/2025

The Psychology of Scams

In this episode, Anurag sits down with Whistine Chai to explore the human side of scams. Whistine brings more than 17 years of experience in clinical, forensic, and industrial-organizational psychology, along with extensive field work in Singapore focused on understanding victims and offenders. Her work blends behavioral science and practical investigation, giving her a unique lens on how scams actually unfold in real life. The conversation begins with her path into forensic and behavioral psychology and the early lessons she learned while working on scam cases in Singapore. She shares how rotations and field work shaped her perspective and why being on the ground provides insights that lab research often misses. They speak at length about the behavioral and psychological markers seen in scam victims. Some traits stay stable across time. Others appear only when someone is placed under stress, fatigue, or emotional pressure. Whistine breaks down these drivers in a simple and relatable way. The episode also examines how behavioral insights can be translated into analytics, fraud controls, and early intervention strategies. This is an area both she and Anurag are deeply invested in. The discussion covers what can be operationalized today and what still belongs in the research domain. Finally, Whistine talks about her book, the motivation behind it, and the process of bringing those ideas together for a wider audience. It is a thoughtful conversation that brings psychology, fraud operations, and human insight into one place.A great listen for anyone working in fraud prevention, investigations, cybersecurity, or behavioral science.

23 min
11/14/2025

The Famous Fraud Guy

In this episode of AI SPY, Anurag sits down with the ever-busy Andrew Austin, a fraud prevention expert whose insights are shaped by years of experience tackling financial crime across institutions. The conversation kicks off with Andrew’s origin story—how he got into the fraud space and why curiosity is a career superpower. From there, they dive deep into: Why AI is both an advantage and a challenge in the fight against fraud How scammers are adapting faster than ever—sometimes faster than tech teams Lessons learned from real-world investigations How fraudsters think, and why threat modeling must evolve Advice for fraud fighters building detection strategies Why signal interpretation (not just signal collection) is the real game The episode wraps with a rapid fire round where Andrew shares what he’s reading, tools he’s obsessed with, and a few unfiltered opinions on buzzwords and the future of AI in compliance. Audio Credit: Music from ⁠⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠⁠ (free for Creators!): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good-folks/w...⁠⁠⁠⁠License code: CWFYBYTSKHIO0WBU

37 min
09/11/2025

The Saturday Fraud Strategist

Founder, CTO, fraud strategist and newsletter author Chen Zamir joins AI SPY to share stories and playbooks that make fraud prevention both practical and approachable. We start with his early experiences in fraud prevention, working at a startup and the surreal experience of identity theft on a dating app. During the discussion we highlight the gaps in trust & safety and how collaboration with fraud teams can reduce risk. Then we dive into highlights from his newsletter: how layered controls combine rules, AI, and human review. We close with Chen’s radar on 2025 fraud trends and a rapid-fire segment where memes meet models. Chen's Newsletter - Newsletter Signup LI — Native[risk] Chen's LinkedIn Profile - Chen Zamir | LinkedIn Audio Credit: Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good-folks/w... License code: CWFYBYTSKHIO0WBU

27 min
08/15/2025

Breach Resilience: Your voice isn't yours

Voice authentication was once celebrated as the future of secure and frictionless banking. By 2023, nearly 1.9 billion people worldwide were enrolled in voice biometric systems, and banks like HSBC were touting hundreds of millions in fraud losses prevented. But advances in AI-driven deepfakes are eroding that trust fast — North America alone saw a 1,740% spike in deepfake fraud in 2023. In this episode, Anurag Mohapatra speaks with Anis Ahmed, security leader and author of BankInfoSecurity’s “Financial Enterprises Must Shift to Breach Resilience.” Together, they explore why banks were already aware of voice authentication’s vulnerabilities before recent high-profile warnings, how deepfakes are changing the fraud landscape, and why the industry must shift from breach prevention to breach resilience. The conversation covers: The rapid rise of voice authentication in financial services and why it appealed to both customers and banks. Real-world examples of AI-powered voice fraud, from high-value corporate scams to consumer-level attacks. The difference between prevention and resilience, and why “assume breach” is the right mindset. The path forward: layered authentication, AI-based detection, and cryptographic transaction signing. Whether you’re a CISO, fraud prevention leader, or banking executive, this episode will help you rethink authentication strategies in an age where your voice is no longer proof of who you are. Why Financial Enterprises Must Shift to Breach ResilienceAudio Credit:Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): ...License code: CWFYBYTSKHIO0WBU

18 min
06/29/2025

Chasing Shadows: Inside Scam Psychology with Alex Somervell

When it comes to scam prevention, few founders have a story as personal—and painful—as Alex Somervell. In this episode, we hear how the CEO and co-founder of AskSilver turned a deeply personal experience into a mission: to help banks detect scams through empathy, human understanding, and smarter tech. Alex shares the moment that changed everything—when his father was scammed out of most of his life savings. It wasn’t just a fraud case; it was a wake-up call. From navigating police reports to renegotiating rent, Alex lived through the fallout of a scam firsthand. And it showed him how disconnected many detection systems were from the real experiences of victims. With a background in consumer products and a co-founder he’s worked with since school, Alex set out to build something different. AskSilver is now live with Metro Bank in the UK, analyzing behavior in ways that go beyond rules and scripts. This episode unpacks that journey: from startup pivots to product validation, and what it really takes to innovate in a space where empathy is as critical as AI. Audio Credit:Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good-folks/w...License code: CWFYBYTSKHIO0WBU

26 min

Join us in the world of financial crime prevention, where we delve into the powerful synergy of Artificial Intelligence and cutting-edge technology. This podcast brings expert insights, no-nonsense discussions, and deep dives into topics like Anti-Money Laundering, Payments Fraud, and more. Hosted casually and informatively, we invite A-listers from the industry to share their experience and learnings.

Creator

Anurag Mohapatra
Years Active

2023 - 2026
Episodes

33
Rating

Clean
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