Also That

Gennaro Aliperti and Heidi Kerr

A podcast about creative beginnings.  Also That is a weekly podcast on finding connection and inspiration. We’re fostering a community of artists seeking to begin their own creative journey and nurturing the confidence to take creative leaps. Every great masterpiece started from a draft. We hope you'll find this podcast community helps serve as the stepping stone you need to help meet your own high expectations of your art.

  1. FEB 23

    The Type B Baker: Creativity, Social Justice, and Mental Health with Gabbie Gonzalez

    Heidi and Gennaro talk with Gabbie Gonzalez to learn about her journey from a hobbyist baker to a sweets and social justice content creator. Gabbie emphasizes the importance of creativity in baking and shares her unique approach as a 'Type B Baker' on Instagram and Substack.  She shares the creative process behind creating recipes and her upcoming cookbook Men & Sugar: Recipes for Disaster, which intertwines personal stories and sweet desserts with broader sociological issues surrounding gender and relationships.  Gabbie shares the therapeutic nature of baking and the political implications of food, encouraging listeners to embrace creativity and connection in their culinary endeavors.  In this episode: How Gabbie turned a hobby into a social justice-forward baking brandWhat it means to be a "Type B Baker” and embrace imperfection and creativityCookbooks as both creative work and reflections of personal narratives.Why aren’t food bloggers talking more about their relationship with food? How sharing recipes on Instagram can serve as storytelling tools about societal issues such as gender, race, and capitalismHow creativity in baking allows for personal expression and experimentation.The political dimensions of baking, including historical examples of resistance through foodTimestamps: 2:48 - From Hobby to Content Creator5:50 - Defining a Type B Baker8:20 - Is Baking a Creative Act?11:20 Cookbooks vs. Finding Recipes Online14:17 Finding Inspiration in Personal and Shared Experiences 17:28 The Cookbook Journey21:50 Depression Baking & Mental Health27:30 Navigating Vulnerability in Content Creation29:17 Baking as a Political Act32:00 Community and Connection through BakingConnect with Gabbie: Type B Baking SubstackPanza Baby Website Instagram Other Resources & Links: Kitchen Arts & Letters — A bookstore dedicated to cookbooksKimberle Crenshaw’s Intersectionality Tags: baking, social justice, content creation, cookbook, creativity, mental health, community, sociology, mutual aid

    35 min
  2. JAN 14 · BONUS

    2025 Reflections and Manifestations for the New Year

    In this episode, Heidi and Gennaro reflect on the past year, discussing their personal growth, creative goals, and the importance of showing up for others. They emphasize the significance of setting intentions for the new year and embracing an unapologetic approach to life and creativity. The conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing personal aspirations with societal expectations, and they share their concrete goals for the upcoming year, including a focus on purposeful creativity in their podcast's second season. Takeaways New Year's is a time for reflection and hope.Setting intentions can help guide personal growth.Quitting a corporate job can lead to creative freedom.Showing up for others is essential in tough times.Comparison can hinder personal joy and creativity.Being unapologetic about one's identity is empowering.Creative problem-solving is key to overcoming challenges.Embracing multiple creative mediums can enhance skills.It's important to create systems that support creative goals.The podcast aims to explore creativity with purpose. Chapters 00:00 Setting Intentions for the New Year00:22 Navigating Creativity and Corporate Life02:37 Channeling Energy and Personal Values04:53 The Importance of Showing Up for Others10:15 Exploring Creative Mediums14:14 The Year of Being Unapologetic16:44 Reflecting on Personal Growth and Bravery18:08 Creative Travel19:54 Navigating Creative Challenges and Comfort Zones22:53 Setting Concrete Creative Goals for 202624:48 Introducing Season Two: Creativity with Purpose25:13 A new chapter for Also That

    27 min
  3. JAN 5

    Flow State: Science for Creatives

    In this episode, Heidi and Gennaro explore the concept of flow and its significance in enhancing creativity. They discuss the definition of flow, the research by Mihaly Csíkszentmihályi, and the importance of attention in achieving this state. The conversation delves into practical steps to cultivate flow, the challenge-skill balance, and the triggers that can help individuals enter flow. They also address barriers to flow, such as self-consciousness and distractions, and provide practical tips for achieving flow in creative endeavors. References: Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention by Johann Hari Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihály CsíkszentmihályiBeyond Boredom and Anxiety: Experiencing Flow in Work and Play by Mihály CsíkszentmihályiFlow Research Collective The Siren’s Call by Chris Hayes  Takeaways: Attention is crucial for achieving flow.Curiosity drives creativity and helps trigger flow.You need to resolve to commit to a task to enter flow.The challenge of a task should be slightly above your skill level.Immediate feedback is essential for maintaining flow.Self-consciousness can block the flow state.The optimal time for flow is between 90 to 110 minutes.Practicing flow can significantly enhance creativity. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Flow State01:16 - Understanding Flow: Definition and Characteristics03:51 - Historical Context and Key Figures in Flow Research07:22 - The Relationship Between Flow and Happiness09:43 - Steps to Achieve Flow State14:52 - Conditions Supporting Flow State20:04 - Exploring Flow Triggers and Creativity22:12 - Curiosity as a Flow Trigger23:49 - The Role of Passion in Creativity25:04 - Finding Purpose in Creative Endeavors28:05 - Understanding Flow and Creativity29:56 - Identifying Flow Blockers32:10 - Optimal Time for Flow State34:58 - Applying Flow to Creative Processes

    39 min

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A podcast about creative beginnings.  Also That is a weekly podcast on finding connection and inspiration. We’re fostering a community of artists seeking to begin their own creative journey and nurturing the confidence to take creative leaps. Every great masterpiece started from a draft. We hope you'll find this podcast community helps serve as the stepping stone you need to help meet your own high expectations of your art.