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About all things AppSec, DevOps, and DevSecOps. Hosted by Mike Shema and John Kinsella, the podcast focuses on helping its audience find and fix software flaws effectively.

  1. Discussing Useful Security Requirements with Developers - Ixchel Ruiz - ASW #313

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    Discussing Useful Security Requirements with Developers - Ixchel Ruiz - ASW #313

    There's a pernicious myth that developers don't care about security. In practice, they care about code quality. What developers don't care for is ambiguous requirements. Ixchel Ruiz shares her experience is discussing software designs, the challenges in prioritizing dev efforts, and how to help open source project maintainers with their issue backlog. Segment resources: https://github.com/ossf/scorecard https://www.commonhaus.org/ https://www.hackergarten.net/ Design lessons from PyPI's Quarantine capability, effective ways for appsec to approach phishing, why fishshell is moving to Rust component by component (and why that's a good thing!), what behaviors the Cyber Trust Mark might influence, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-313

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  2. DefectDojo and Bringing Quality Appsec Tools to Small Appsec Teams - Greg Anderson - ASW #312

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    DefectDojo and Bringing Quality Appsec Tools to Small Appsec Teams - Greg Anderson - ASW #312

    All appsec teams need quality tools and all developers benefit from appsec guidance that's focused on meaningful results. Greg Anderson shares his experience in bringing the OWASP DefectDojo project to life and maintaining its value for over a decade. He reminds us that there are tons of appsec teams with low budgets and few members that need tools to help them bring useful insights to developers. Segment Resources: https://owasp.org/www-project-defectdojo/ Three-quarters of CISOs surveyed reported being "overwhelmed" by the growing number of tools and their alerts: https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/cisos-throwing-cash-tools-detect-breaches As many as one-fifth of all cybersecurity alerts turn out to be false positives. Among 800 IT professionals surveyed, just under half of them stated that approximately 40% of the alerts they receive are false positives: https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/97260-one-fifth-of-cybersecurity-alerts-are-false-positives 91% of organizations knowingly released vulnerable applications, 57% of vulnerabilities are left unresolved by developers, 32% of CISOs deploy vulnerable code in the hopes it won’t be discovered, 56% of developers struggle to prioritize vulnerability fixes: https://info.checkmarx.com/future-of-application-security-2024 Curl removes a Rust backend, double clickjacking revives an old vuln, a new tool for working with HTTP/3, a brief reminder to verify JWT signatures, design lessons from recursion, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-312

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  3. Applying Usability and Transparency to Security - Hannah Sutor - ASW #311

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    Applying Usability and Transparency to Security - Hannah Sutor - ASW #311

    Practices around identity and managing credentials have improved greatly since the days of infosec mandating 90-day password rotations. But those improvements didn't arise from a narrow security view. Hannah Sutor talks about the importance of balancing security with usability, the importance of engaging with users when determining defaults, and setting an example for transparency in security disclosures. Segment resources https://youtu.be/ydg95R2QKwM Curl's oldest bug yet, RCPs (and more!) from AWS re:Invent, possible controls for NPM's malware proliferation, insights and next steps on protecting top 500 packages from the Census III report, the flawed design choice that made Microsoft's OTP (successfully) brute-forceable, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! 00:00 Welcome to Application Security Weekly! 01:49 Meet the Experts 03:28 What Are Non-Human Identities? 06:17 Balancing Security & Usability 08:24 MFA Challenges & Admin Security 12:09 Navigating Breaking Changes 16:05 Security by Design in Action 18:42 Identity Management for Startups 20:18 Secure by Design: Real Impact 24:03 Transparency After a Critical Vulnerability 31:39 Looking Ahead to 2025 32:45 Application Security in Three Words 34:10 - Intro & Cyber Resilience Insights 35:30 - The 25-Year-Old Curl Bug Story 38:27 - Fuzzing for Security: A Missed Opportunity? 42:56 - AWS re:Invent Security Highlights 46:04 - NPM Malware Surge 50:43 - Small Packages, Big Risks in NPM 54:05 - Open Source Security Trends 58:37 - Microsoft MFA Vulnerability Explained 62:38 - Hardware Hacking & DMA Exploits 65:05 - Auditing Ruby’s Package Ecosystem 68:12 - Looking Ahead to 2025 Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-311

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  4. Looking Back on 2024 - ASW #310

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    Looking Back on 2024 - ASW #310

    We do our usual end of year look back on the topics, news, and trends that caught our attention. We covered some OWASP projects, the ongoing attention and promises of generative AI, and big events from the XZ Utils backdoor to Microsoft's Recall to Crowdstrike's outage. Segment resources https://prods.ec https://owasp.org/www-project-spvs/ https://genai.owasp.org/resource/owasp-top-10-for-llm-applications-2025/ https://securitychampions.owasp.org/ https://deadliestwebattacks.com/appsec/2024/11/14/ai-and-llms-asw-topic-recap https://www.scworld.com/podcast-episode/3017-infosec-myths-mistakes-and-misconceptions-adrian-sanabria-asw-279 Curl and Python (and others) deal with bad vuln reports generated by LLMs, supply chain attack on Solana, comparing 5 genAI mistakes to OWASP's Top Ten for LLM Applications, a Rust survey, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-310

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  5. Adding Observability with OpenTelemetry - Adriana Villela - ASW #309

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    Adding Observability with OpenTelemetry - Adriana Villela - ASW #309

    Observability is a lot more than just sprinkling printf statements throughout a code base. Adriana Villela explains principles behind logging, traceability, and metrics and how the OpenTelemetry project helps developers gather this useful information. She also provides suggestions on starting logging from scratch, how to avoid information overload, and how engaging users about their experience with solutions like OpenTelemetry makes for better software -- a lesson that appsec teams can apply to paved roads and security guardrails. Segment Resources: https://opentelemetry.io https://cncf.io https://adri-v.medium.com/ Fuzzing barcodes and getting projects onboarded with fuzzers, using AI to guide fuzzers, using AI to combat scammers, using CWEs for something, using malicious comments to ban repos, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-309

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  6. Biometric Frontiers: Unlocking The Future Of Engagement - Andras Cser, Enza Iannopollo - ASW #308

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    Biometric Frontiers: Unlocking The Future Of Engagement - Andras Cser, Enza Iannopollo - ASW #308

    This week's interview dives deep into the state of biometrics with two Forrester Research analysts! This discussion compares and contrasts regional approaches to biometrics; examine the security challenges and benefits of their implementation; and reveal how biometrics holds the keys to a range of engagement models of the future. Andras Cser dives into the technical end of things and explains how biometrics can be resilient to attack. We can't replace our fingerprints or faces, but as Andras explains, there's no need to, thanks to how biometrics actually work. Then, Enza takes us through the latest on privacy in biometrics - a concern for both consumers, and businesses tasked with complying with privacy regulations and avoiding costly fines. Finally, get a sneak peek into the upcoming Forrester Security & Risk Summit. Whether you're an industry professional or just curious about the implications of biometrics, this episode delivers insights you won't want to miss! This week, in the Application Security News, we dismiss magical thinking and discuss what generative AI will actually be able to do for us. We also discuss whether Secure by Design's goals are practical or not. OSC&R releases a report on software supply chain that should be interesting, though neither of us had time to read it yet. Also, Watchtowr has some fun with Citrix VDI! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-308

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  7. Modernizing AppSec - Melinda Marks - ASW #307

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    Modernizing AppSec - Melinda Marks - ASW #307

    In this week's interview, Melinda Marks' joins us to discuss her latest research. Her recent report Modernizing Application Security to Scale for Cloud-Native Development delves into many aspects and trends affecting AppSec as it matures, particularly in cloud-first organizations. We also discuss the fuzzy line between "cloud-native" AppSec and everything else that refuses to disappear, particularly for organizations that weren't born cloud-native and still have legacy workloads to worry about. Integrating security into the SDLC and CI/CD pipelines, infrastructure as code (IaC) trends, best of breed vs platform, and other aspects of AppSec get discussed as well! This week, in the Application Security News, we spend a lot of time on some recent vulnerabilities. We take this opportunity to talk about how to determine whether or not a vulnerability is worth a critical response. Can AI fully automate DevSecOps Governance? Adrian has his reservations, but JLK is bullish. Is it bad that 70% of DevSecOps professionals don't know if code is AI generated or not? All that and more on this week's news segment. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-307

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  8. Bug bounties, vulnerability disclosure, PTaaS, fractional pentesting - Grant McCracken - ASW #306

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    Bug bounties, vulnerability disclosure, PTaaS, fractional pentesting - Grant McCracken - ASW #306

    After spending a decade working for appsec vendors, Grant McKracken wanted to give something back. He saw a gap in the market for free or low-cost services for smaller organizations that have real appsec needs, but not a lot of means to pay for it. He founded DarkHorse, who offers VDPs and bug bounties to organizations of all sizes for free, or for as low of cost as possible. While not a non-profit, the company's goal is to make these services as cheap as possible to increase accessibility for smaller or more budget-constrained organizations. The company has also introduced the concept of "fractional pentesting", access to cyber talent when and how you need it, based on what you can afford. This implies services beyond just offensive security, something we'll dive deeper into in the interview. We don't see DarkHorse ever competing with the larger Bug Bounty platforms, but rather providing services to the organizations too small for the larger platforms to sell to. Microsoft delays Recall AGAIN, Project Zero uses an LLM to find a bugger underflow in SQLite, the scourge of infostealer malware, zero standing privileges is easy if you have unlimited time (but no one does), reverse engineering Nintendo's Alarmo and RedBox's... boxes. Bonus: the book series mentioned in this episode The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-306

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