75 episodes

Enneagram In Real Life (fka Ask an Enneagram Coach), is a weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding and fresh insight. Each episode will feature a guest of a different type to share the ins and outs of living life as their type and how they apply the Enneagram IRL. The Enneagram IRL podcast will engage listeners wherever they are in their self-discovery process so that they can learn, grow, and remember that even though we all love the Enneagram, we’re more than just a number.Hosted by Steph Barron Hall, Accredited Enneagram Practitioner, coach, consultant, author, and creator of @ninetypesco on Instagram. Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our theme song! You can also find their work on Spotify. https://doctordreamchip.com/

Enneagram in Real Life Steph Barron Hall

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    • 4.9 • 86 Ratings

Enneagram In Real Life (fka Ask an Enneagram Coach), is a weekly podcast where we go beyond Enneagram theory and dive into practical understanding and fresh insight. Each episode will feature a guest of a different type to share the ins and outs of living life as their type and how they apply the Enneagram IRL. The Enneagram IRL podcast will engage listeners wherever they are in their self-discovery process so that they can learn, grow, and remember that even though we all love the Enneagram, we’re more than just a number.Hosted by Steph Barron Hall, Accredited Enneagram Practitioner, coach, consultant, author, and creator of @ninetypesco on Instagram. Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our theme song! You can also find their work on Spotify. https://doctordreamchip.com/

    How a Bioinspirationalist Learns from Nature to Spark Ideas & Ignite Action with Dr. Jeff Karp, Enneagram 7

    How a Bioinspirationalist Learns from Nature to Spark Ideas & Ignite Action with Dr. Jeff Karp, Enneagram 7

    On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Jeff Karp, Ph.D., acclaimed mentor and biomedical engineering professor at Harvard Medical School and MIT, a Distinguished Chair at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. As a child, his teacher wanted to hold him back in the second grade. As an adult, he got his PhD, became a celebrated Professor and member of the National Academy of Inventors, and a Distinguished Chair at Brigham and Women’s Hospital where he has co-founded twelve companies, amassed over 100 patents and received 50 awards.
    Fueled by his Life Ignition Tools, 'LIT', Jeff turned to nature for inspiration to revolutionize lab practices. Now, Jeff is sharing his lessons in his debut book. LIT aims to empower others to take themselves off autopilot and unlock their own reservoirs of potential. 


    Grab a copy of LIT: Life Ignition Tools here!


    🔗 Connect with Dr. Jeff Karp!
    💻 https://jeffkarp.com/


    🔗 Connect with Steph!
    💻 https://ninetypes.co/
    📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco
    🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhall


    Here are the key takeaways:
    Jeff’s experience as a child with ADHDHighlighting Jeff’s Enneagram Type, SevenWhat is Radical Simplicity and how is it helpful?What inspired Jeff’s new book, LIT: Life Ignition Tools?Low-energy brain state vs. high-energy brain state?“Do New” practice to tap into a high-energy brain state“Flip the Switch”, a four-step process to bring more awarenessConnecting to your senses to help get out of the headHarnessing creativity by increasing your curiosity Making tiny changes to create momentumExperiencing awe

    Resources mentioned in this episode:
    Turning Failure into Success: 3 Principles of Radical Simplicity TEDx TalkFeel-Good Productivity by Ali AbdaalInto the Magic Shop by James R. Doty

    Want to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=en
    Learn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.
    Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.
    Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide
    Schedule a consultation to learn more about booking an Enneagram training for your team! All trainings are led by Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership, Chestnut Paes Enneagram Certified, Integrative9 Accredited Enneagram Professional). https://ninetypes.co 

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Not Perfect Enough to Be a Perfectionist as an Enneagram 1 with Dani Cooper

    Not Perfect Enough to Be a Perfectionist as an Enneagram 1 with Dani Cooper

    On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dani Cooper, a Certified Enneagram Teacher, Coach, and totally-biased cheerleader for individuals, couples, and teams who want to find out who they really are and grow beyond the armor of their Enneagram types.  She is the author of the book, The Enneagram for Christian Couples, which came out in 2022. Her life's work is learning how to love herself as a messy, imperfect and absolutely enough human person.
    Book a session with Dani here!


    🔗 Connect with Dani Cooper!
    💻 https://www.deepwatersenneagram.com/
    📷 Instagram: @deepwatersenneagram


    🔗 Connect with Steph!
    💻 https://ninetypes.co/
    📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco
    🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhall



    Here are the key takeaways:
    Diving into Dani’s background“Without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God”Dani’s AHA moments when typing as a One“I’m not perfect enough to be a perfectionist” Typing as the one-to-one subtypePerspectives within their relationships from one-to-one subtypes“With awareness, we get to choose. Without awareness, you just react.”Growing up with negative messagingHow do you measure what’s “appropriate?”What has Dani learned from working with clients?Dani’s advice for those starting a self-discovery journeyHow to connect with Dani

    Resources mentioned in this episode:
    The Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk KiddThe Book of Longings: A Novel by Sue Monk KiddThe Wisdom of Your Body by Hillary L. McBride

    Schedule a consultation to learn more about booking an Enneagram training for your team! All trainings are led by Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership, Chestnut Paes Enneagram Certified, Integrative9 Accredited Enneagram Professional). https://ninetypes.co 

    • 57 min
    What to Do When Life Doesn’t Feel Authentic as an Enneagram 3 with Tyler Zach

    What to Do When Life Doesn’t Feel Authentic as an Enneagram 3 with Tyler Zach

    On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Tyler Zach, author and certified Enneagram coach with 18 years of experience coaching students, adults, couples, and business teams. He has grown a vibrant community of over 47K Enneagram enthusiasts on his Instagram account @GospelForEnneagram. He is writing a faith-based 40-day devotional for every Enneagram type which you can grab on Amazon.com. 
    To test drive your type's book, download a free 5-day devotional on his website at https://www.tylerzach.com/free.  


    🔗 Connect with Tyler Zach!
    💻 https://www.tylerzach.com
    📷 Instagram: @GospelForEnneagram
    🎥 Youtube: @gospelforenneagram
    📱 Facebook: @gospelforenneagram
    🐦 X/Twitter: @gospelforgram


    🔗 Connect with Steph!
    💻 https://ninetypes.co/
    📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco
    🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhall


    Here are the key takeaways:
    My mom follows Tyler’s InstagramHow we (as Threes) sometimes mistype ourselves based on how we want to beMaking the decision to leave ministryLoss of identity and identity work as a ThreeChanging his perspective from his previous ideas (Joke about Wayne Grudem, IYKYK)Opening up to different perspectives of himself and who God isHow we use our types to harm others unintentionally, and how the Enneagram can improve our relationshipsSixes as protectorsFeeling like we’re drowning as Threes when we try to slow down The EnneaSummit: how it came to be and why Tyler is excited about itTip for Threes: Practice slowing down. It doesn’t feel great at first, but it’s necessary.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:
    The EnneaSummit: Love & Relationships EditionTyler’s History of the Enneagram Course https://www.tylerzach.com/history The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne StabileEnneagram 2.0 Podcast by Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio PaesFacets of Unity by AH Almaas (the book Steph mentions on Holy Ideas)Here on a Mission by Donald Miller



    Schedule a consultation to learn more about booking an Enneagram training for your team! All trainings are led by Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership, Chestnut Paes Enneagram Certified, Integrative9 Accredited Enneagram Professional). https://ninetypes.co 

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Rewire Your Brain for Less Stress and More Resilience with Dr. Aditi Nerurkar

    Rewire Your Brain for Less Stress and More Resilience with Dr. Aditi Nerurkar

    On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Aditi Nerurkar, Harvard physician, nationally recognized stress expert, and author. She is also an in-demand multi-media personality, high profile medical correspondent, internationally renowned Fortune50 speaker, and podcaster. Uniquely fulfilling her original career ambition to be a journalist, Dr. Nerurkar has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Oprah Magazine, Architectural Digest and Elle – in addition to being a columnist for Forbes and writing for The Atlantic.
    Dr. Nerurkar’s expertise on stress comes from working with thousands of patients throughout her years as a primary care physician and director of an integrative medicine program at Harvard’s Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. She is now a lecturer at Harvard Medical School in the Division of Global Health & Social Medicine and serves as the Co-Director of the Clinical Clerkship in Community Engagement. She has also worked in global public health at a World Health Organization collaboration center in Geneva, Switzerland.

    To bring stress back to healthy levels, Dr. Nerurkar offers her five science-backed mindset shifts, rooted in more than two decades of clinical experience, for when life gets hard:
    The First Reset: Get Clear on What Matters MostThe Second Reset: Find Quiet in a Noisy WorldThe Third Reset: Sync Your Brain and Your BodyThe Fourth Reset: Come Up for AirThe Fifth Reset: Bring Your Best Self ForwardTo learn more about Dr. Aditi Nerurkar and “The 5 Resets,” visit https://www.draditi.com/.


    🔗 Connect with Dr. Aditi Nerurkar!
    💻 https://www.draditi.com/
    📷 Instagram: @draditinerurkar


    🔗 Connect with Steph!
    💻 https://ninetypes.co/
    📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco
    🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhall


    Here are the key takeaways:
    What is Toxic Resilience?The Rule of TwoDiving into the Five ResetsAddressing: “I’ve tried everything nothing is working”What is the mind-body connection?Exercise: Stop, Breathe, Be & Sticky FeetMyth: You can’t think your way out of stress

    Resources mentioned in this episode:
    The Covenant of Water Novel by Abraham VergheseCutting for Stone Novel by Abraham Verghese

    Learn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.
    Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide
    Schedule a consultation to learn more about booking an Enneagram training for your team! All trainings are led by Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership, Chestnut Paes Enneagram Certified, Integrative9 Accredited Enneagram Professional). https://ninetypes.co 

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Why Small "t" Traumas Matter & How They Impact Our Lives with Dr. Meg Arroll

    Why Small "t" Traumas Matter & How They Impact Our Lives with Dr. Meg Arroll

    On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Meg Arroll (PhD, CPsychol, CSci, AFBPsS, FHEA, MISCPAccred), a chartered psychologist, scientist and author with a specialist focus on behavioural psychology related to health and wellness, invisible/misunderstood illness and everyday trauma. Dr Meg has published widely in peer-reviewed journals including British Medical Journal (Open) and Medical Hypotheses, in addition to seven mainstream books for the public on topics ranging from chronic fatigue to emotional eating. Dr Meg works on a 1-2-1 basis with individuals, in corporate settings to improve health and performance and as an advisor to brands and the media. As a regular contributor to commercial publications such as The Daily Mail and Psychologies magazine, Dr Meg translates complex scientific theories and research for public dissemination.
    Meg has held academic positions at a number of universities and is currently an assessor for the British Psychological Society’s chartered route in coaching psychology. She’s busy promoting her most recent book Tiny Traumas around the world, across 33 publication territories including the UK, USA, throughout Europe, South America, Asia and Australasia and splits her time between London and the southern states of the US.
    Grab her book here!


    🔗 Connect with Meg!
    💻 https://www.drmegarroll.com/
    📷 Instagram: @drmegarroll
    🔗 Connect with Steph!
    💻 https://ninetypes.co/
    📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco
    🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhall

    Here are the key takeaways:
    Breaking down “little T” traumaWhy “Keep Calm and Carry On” isn’t helpfulMisconceptions about tiny T traumaMeg’s Triple A approach: Awareness, Acceptance, ActionBenefits of emotional writingWhat is our “psychological immune system?”Meg’s response to “Is everything just trauma nowadays?”

    Resources mentioned in this episode:
    James Pennebaker’s workI Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

    Learn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.
    Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide
    Schedule a consultation to learn more about booking an Enneagram training for your team! All trainings are led by Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership, Chestnut Paes Enneagram Certified, Integrative9 Accredited Enneagram Professional). https://ninetypes.co 

    • 58 min
    When to Quit Your Job & How to Leave Well with Enneagram 8, Naomi Hattaway

    When to Quit Your Job & How to Leave Well with Enneagram 8, Naomi Hattaway

    On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Naomi Hattaway. Naomi is the CEO of 8th & Home, a consulting practice that combines affordable housing and homelessness prevention work, with the power of Leaving Well, a practice for individuals, organizations, and boards in periods of transition. 
    Her practice of leadership and implementation of the Leaving Well concept combines strategic visioning, organizational development, and community care. She delivers a deep commitment to equitable practices, a willingness to have tough conversations, strong project management and facilitation skills, and compassion and generosity to every interaction and facet of her work.
    After living across the US, her family moved overseas to India where she learned to thrive in the midst of chaos. Following one year in Singapore, they moved back to the US and have traipsed their way through Florida, Virginia, Ohio, and Nebraska, and now back in Florida. Naomi is an 8w7, and her love languages are accountability, tattoos & really good playlists.



    🔗 Connect with Naomi!
    💻 https://naomihattaway.com
    📷 Instagram: @naomihattaway
    🧑‍💻Linkedin: @naomihattaway


    🔗 Connect with Steph!
    💻 https://ninetypes.co/
    📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco
    🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhall



    Here are the key takeaways:
    Naomi’s journey of self-discoveryVulnerability vs. transparency in EightsWhat is the concept of “Leaving Well”Grief and loss as part of a transitionDiscussing each Enneagram type in workplace transitionThe Workplace Transition ArchetypesPractical Practices for those making transitions How to connect with Naomi


    Resources mentioned in this episode:
    “Eight” by Sleeping at Last Necessary Endings by Henry CloudYour Caring Heart by Jaiya John Workplace Transition Archetype Quiz DiSC® ProfileThe Power of Onlyness by Nilofer MerchantLeading for Justice by Rita SeverSupervision Matters by Rita SeverCountdown to Leaving Resource by Naomi


    Learn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.
    Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide
    Schedule a consultation to learn more about booking an Enneagram training for your team! All trainings are led by Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership, Chestnut Paes Enneagram Certified, Integrative9 Accredited Enneagram Professional). https://ninetypes.co 

    • 48 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
86 Ratings

86 Ratings

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Clear, relatable explanations

Love Steph’s explanations about the inner workings of the Enneagram. She helps us understand the nuances of this tool with a clear, down to earth delivery. Learning lots! #3

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Practical & Helpful

Steph does a masterful job of answering enneagram questions in a way that is accessible to everyone. Each episode feels like listening to a really gifted friend who cares about your growth & well being.

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Love this podcast!

Steph is so knowledgable about the Enneagram and she shares her amazing insight with clarity and empathy. She discusses the various sides of each type and how they overlap/contrast while recognizing that every person is a unique, multi-faceted individual. Her approach is balanced, helpful and focused on self-discovery and growth work rather than overgeneralized personality assumptions. I absolute love this podcast and learning from Steph!

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