Aspiring Martians

Aspiring Martians

Aspiring Martians is the podcast for those captivated by the vision of living on Mars. Each episode unpacks the realities of Martian exploration, blending hard science with the personal stories of those preparing to embark on humanity’s most ambitious journey. From scientists to dreamers, pioneers to future settlers, we bring you the voices shaping what life could be like on Mars. Whether you’re an aspiring Martian yourself or just curious about the journey, join us as we navigate the incredible risks, rewards, and realities of life beyond Earth.

  1. 5D AGO

    Workplace Anxiety on Mars with Dr. Craig Jackson

    This week, Joe closes the season with an Everyday Mars conversation focused on something every future Martian — and every remote worker — will face: workplace anxiety and occupational health. To tackle this subject, we're joined by Dr. Craig Jackson, a leading occupational health psychologist whose research examines how work affects human psychological wellbeing, particularly in extreme, remote, and high-stress environments. Their conversation spans decades of research and real-world case studies, including incidents at Antarctic research bases, fatigue and burnout, psychological screening for astronauts and remote workers, and what happens when isolation and pressure compound over time. They also explore the overview effect, delayed communication, long working hours, and the psychological realities of confined, high-responsibility workplaces — drawing clear parallels between Earth-based analogs and future Mars missions. TRIGGER WARNING: This episode briefly touches on the subject of suicide from 21:00 to 27:20. Please feel free to skip this section if you prefer. The episode also serves as a moment of reflection and gratitude. It’s a grounded, thoughtful close to a season dedicated to the human stories behind the dream of living on Mars. We are deeply grateful for your engagement and support this past year as we have dived into the lives of aspiring Martians the covered topics that future Mars settlers will be most interested in. We're profoundly excited to show you what's next in Season 2! ~ A huge thank you to Dr. Craig Jackson for joining me todayand sharing his expertise and time, to Nick Thorburn for the absolute banger ofa theme song, to Ceci Giglio for the incredible graphics, to RDan, Leila, Inka,and Carl for admining the FB group, and to my family for supporting thisproject — even when Mars becomes a full-time dinner conversation. Research: Workplace Anxiety,Isolation, Polar & Extreme Environments Palinkas, L. A., & Suedfeld, P. (2008) The Lancet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17655924/ Palinkas, L. A. (2003) American Psychologist https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12784972/ Antarctic Harassment& Safety Climate U.S. National Science Foundation – Office of Polar Programs(July 2024) https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2024/nsf24586/nsf24586.pdf Suicide Risk, SleepDisruption & Remote Work Bernert, R. A., et al. (2007) Sleep Medicine Reviews https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17368981/ Pigeon, W. R., et al. (2020) Scientific Reports https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-70866-6 Fatigue, CircadianMisalignment & Extreme Work Parkes, K. R. (2017) Safety Science https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0925753517300957 Arendt, J., et al. (2022) Nature and Science of Sleep https://www.dovepress.com/the-role-of-circadian-phase-in-sleep-and-performance-during-antarctic–peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-NSS DelayedCommunication, Autonomy & Mars Missions NASA Ames Research Center (2025) https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20250003885/downloads/NASA%20TM20250003885.pdf Kanas, N., et al. (2015) Acta Astronautica https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576514003996 O’Leary, M. B., Wilson, J. M., & Metiu, A. (2014) Organization Science https://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/10.1287/orsc.2013.0876 Gibbs, J. L., et al. (2021) Annual Review of Organizational Psychology andOrganizational Behavior https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-orgpsych-012420-060248 Mars &Spaceflight Analog Missions Basner, M., et al. (2014) Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1403716111 NASA Human Research Program https://humanresearchroadmap.nasa.gov/evidence/ Trauma, IntrusiveMemories & Tetris Studies Holmes, E. A., et al. (2009) PLoS ONE https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0004153 Overview Effect, Awe& Perspective Shift Yaden, D. B., et al. (2016) Psychology of Consciousness https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2016-17436-001

    1h 38m
  2. 12/23/2025

    Spaceflight, Resilience, and the Courage to Be Seen with Lina Borozdina

    Hope you're prepared for a conversation that is as honest as it is powerful. In this week's episode, Joe sits down with Lina Borozdina where she shares what brought her to space aboard Virgin Galactic, but this discussion goes far beyond the mechanics of spaceflight. Together, they explore the emotional reality of chasing a space dream in public and the resilience required to keep going in the face of dismissive, hurtful, and often cruel commentary from those who would rather see that dream disappear. The conversation also touches on Lina’s deep commitment to inspiring the next generation of kids, the responsibility that comes with visibility, and the quiet strength demonstrated by women who refuse to make themselves smaller, even when the world asks them to.It’s a vulnerable, moving conversation about courage, representation, and choosing to dream anyway. This episode marks the final personal story of Season One of Aspiring Martians — a season dedicated to exploring the deeply human stories behind people with a very real dream of living on Mars someday. Stay tuned for next week's final episode of Season 1 with an all new Everyday Mars episode you won't want to miss! ~ A huge thank you to Lina for joining me today and sharing her story, to Nick Thorburn for the amazing theme music, to Ceci Giglio for the incredible graphics, to RDan, Leila, Inka, and Carl for admining the FB group, and to my family for letting me talk about Mars far more often than is probably reasonable.

    53 min
  3. 12/09/2025

    Becoming Better Humans by Leaving Earth with Dr. Adriana Marais

    This week on Aspiring Martians, Joe sits down with Dr. Adriana Marais: theoretical physicist, astrobiologist, disruptor, explorer, and one of the most compelling voices shaping the future of human settlement beyond Earth. Adriana’s scientific background spans quantum effects in biology, the origins of life’s building blocks in space, and award-winning work in quantum biology. She’s a Director at the Foundation for Space Development Africa and the Head of Science for Africa2Moon, Africa’s first lunar mission — a first-of-its-kind radio telescope headed for the south pole aboard China’s Chang’e-8 mission. She’s also the founder of Proudly Human, leading the ambitious Off-World Project, which tests autonomous, resilient living systems in the harshest environments on Earth — deserts, icefields, remote regions — as analogs for future off-world communities. Her work has been featured in CNN’s Africa’s Space Race, AOL’s Citizen Mars, Before Mars, and hundreds of talks across all seven continents. She was recently honored as “Most Disruptive” at the Women in Tech Global Awards in Paris. Joe and Adriana dive into quantum biology, off-world economics, resilience, the philosophy of exploration, Africa’s growing influence in space, and why extreme Earth environments may hold the key to not just surviving, but thriving on Mars. ~ A huge thank you to Adriana for joining me today and sharing her unique perspective, to Nick Thorburn for our stellar theme music, to Ceci Giglio for the beautiful graphics, to RDan, Leila, Inka, and Carl for admining the FB group, and to my family for always supporting this mission!

    54 min
  4. 11/25/2025

    Governing on Mars with Dr. Kelly Weinersmith

    This November — the month of elections here in the USA — we’re taking the spirit of civic engagement off-world. In this Everyday Mars special, Joe talks with Dr. Kelly Weinersmith, an author, researcher, and one of the sharpest, funniest minds thinking about the future of space settlement. Kelly and her husband Zach wrote A City on Mars, a book that takes a wildly entertaining, deeply researched look at the realities of living off-planet. It covers everything from lunar land claims to cosmic law enforcement to the political structures that might keep a Mars colony from descending into either chaos or paperwork. And yes — there is an entire section on governing on Mars. Together, Joe and Kelly dig into the government models that might emerge on the Red Planet, which ones might fall apart instantly, what history already warns us about, and why the earliest decisions could shape Martian society for generations. It’s thoughtful, funny, and surprisingly grounding. Exactly the kind of episode that reminds you that space is not just about rockets, but about people. ~ ~ A huge thank you to Kelly for joining me today and sharing their hilarious and thought-provoking insights. And if you haven’t already, grab a copy of their book A City on Mars: https://www.acityonmars.com/ Thanks as always to Nick Thorburn for our stellar theme music, to Ceci Giglio for the beautiful graphics, to RDan, Leila, Inka, and Carl for admining the FB group, and to my family for always supporting this mission — even when dinner talk drifts into real estate opportunities on a far away moon." Frontier Culture: The Roots and Persistence of “Rugged Individualism” in the United States: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23997/w23997.pdf Frontier Settlement and the Spatial Variation of Civic Institutions: https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/76f8393b-7f33-4433-a7e0-de204bec7ab5 Off-Earth by Erika Nesvold: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047548/off-earth/

    1h 6m
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Aspiring Martians is the podcast for those captivated by the vision of living on Mars. Each episode unpacks the realities of Martian exploration, blending hard science with the personal stories of those preparing to embark on humanity’s most ambitious journey. From scientists to dreamers, pioneers to future settlers, we bring you the voices shaping what life could be like on Mars. Whether you’re an aspiring Martian yourself or just curious about the journey, join us as we navigate the incredible risks, rewards, and realities of life beyond Earth.