Assessment Matters by Valuebase.ai

Will Jarvis
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Assessment Matters presented by Valuebase is a weekly show that delves into the world of real estate valuation and property assessment. Our expert guests share their insights on the latest trends and techniques in the field, and offer practical advice for professionals in the industry. Whether you're a seasoned appraiser or new to the field, you'll find valuable information and inspiration. From understanding mass appraisal methodologies to staying up-to-date on the latest technology, our podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in the world of real estate valuation.

  1. 4D AGO

    74: Bob Boyer | Reforming Personal Property Tax, E-Filing, and Educating the Public in Missouri

    Join host Will Jarvis at the Missouri Assessors' Conference in Branson as he sits down with Bob Boyer, Jefferson County Assessor, to discuss the challenges of personal property tax in Missouri, the push for e-filing and digital modernization, and efforts to reform outdated valuation statutes. Bob shares how his background as a land surveyor and county councilman shaped his approach to running a 32-person office, explains the complexities of the Hancock Amendment and levy rollbacks, and offers his perspective on fighting dark store theory and bogus appraisal claims. As Bob puts it, property taxes are like a big piece of pie — somebody's gonna eat it, and his job is making sure the burden is shared fairly. 00:00 - Introduction and welcome from the Missouri Assessors' Conference in Branson00:36 - Bob Boyer's background: Jefferson County Assessor, former county councilman, land surveyor, and licensed real estate appraiser01:00 - Transitioning from county council to the assessor's office and learning how the office operated03:00 - How land surveying experience with deeds, plats, and GIS mapping carried over to the assessor role04:00 - Implementing e-filing for personal property assessments and reducing paper-based processes06:00 - The personal property tax debate in Missouri: why elimination is difficult and how education helps09:00 - Policy reform: the Hancock Amendment, levy rollback loopholes, and the push for legislative fixes11:30 - The behavioral economics of visible vs. invisible taxes: personal property versus real estate escrow14:00 - Reforming vehicle valuation: moving from JD Power trade-in values to MSRP-based depreciation schedules17:00 - Real estate valuation in a non-disclosure state: cost approach, ratio studies, and staying in compliance20:45 - The future of the profession: dark store theory battles, tax exemption challenges, and protecting residential taxpayers23:45 - Advice for newly elected assessors: observe, learn from experienced staff, and be the head cheerleader for your office25:15 - Where to find Bob Boyer: jeffcomo.gov/assessor and Facebook

    26 min

  2. APR 22

    73: Neal Groover | From Rural Georgia to Medium-Sized County: Navigating Growth, Income Approaches, and the Exemption Mess

    Join host Will Jarvis as he sits down with Neal Groover, Chief Appraiser of Effingham County, Georgia, to discuss his journey from a three-person office in rural Evans County to managing a 33,000-parcel operation in a fast-growing bedroom community near Savannah. Neal shares lessons learned transitioning commercial properties from cost to income approaches, the impact of Port of Savannah expansion on warehouse development, navigating Georgia's 40% assessment rate, and why the growing tangle of homestead exemptions has turned his department into a homestead audit shop. 00:01 – Introduction and Neal Groover's path into assessment work in rural Evans County, Georgia01:02 – Running a three-person office with 6,500 parcels: splitting duties and learning by trial and fire02:54 – The biggest surprise: how heavily law governs the assessment world04:30 – Transitioning from Evans County to Effingham County and the differences between rural and medium-sized jurisdictions06:05 – Valuing warehouses: moving from cost to income approach and tips for making the transition09:00 – Port of Savannah's expansion as the driver behind Effingham's warehouse boom10:49 – Explaining ratio studies to taxpayers and Georgia's 40% assessment rate14:48 – The exemption mess: how homestead exemptions muddy the waters and undermine fairness19:45 – Effingham as a "homestead audit department" — managing 15,500 homestead parcels20:32 – Advice for new chief appraisers: know what you're getting into and commit fully

    21 min

  3. APR 15

    72: Mike Fouassier | Transparency, Equity, and the Case for Keeping Property Tax Local

    Join host Will Jarvis as he sits down with Mike Fouassier, Assessor for the Town of Ossining in Westchester County, New York, and former Director of Operations and Quality Assurance for New York City. Mike brings a unique "pracademic" perspective — holding a PhD focused on inequities in assessment systems — as they discuss why frequent reappraisals at full market value matter, how transparency and public education underpin the legitimacy of the property tax, and the role AI and geospatial tools are playing in modernizing assessment offices. The conversation also explores the talent pipeline challenge facing local government, the management differences between large and small jurisdictions, and Mike's advice for building technology that starts with the assessor's real problems. (00:01) Meet Mike Fouassier — his path from New York State to NYC to the Town of Ossining, and how an "accidental career" in assessment became a lifelong calling(02:25) The biggest inequities in property tax: assessment caps, rising costs of living, and why frequent reappraisals at 100% of full market value is Mike's top reform(05:36) Transparency and public education — why the legitimacy of the property tax depends on assessors meeting homeowners where they are, not just on grievance day(06:49) The case for the local property tax as the fairest tax: local buy-in, participatory governance, and why paying locally gives citizens a voice(11:56) Technology and AI in assessment — from NYC's 3D mapping portal to using AI to produce preliminary appraisals in a fraction of the time(14:52) Managing large vs. small offices: hiring, retention, budgets, and the talent pipeline challenge of getting young people to discover careers in assessment(17:25) Advice for gov-tech companies: start with the assessor's problems, not out-of-the-box solutions, and why hands-on, in-office partnerships matter(22:08) What Mike would tell his younger self — the larger world of assessment administration and how to find the Town of Ossining's equity portal

    24 min

  4. MAR 25

    71: A Fresh Perspective on AI Adoption in Assessment Offices with Trinity Taylor

    Join host Will Jarvis as he sits down with Trinity Taylor, Valuebase's newest team member focused on outreach and sales, recorded on location in Tucson. A recent University of Arizona graduate with a background in psychology and business, Trinity shares what it's been like breaking into the property assessment world, the patterns she's noticed reaching out to assessors across the country, and why she believes AI tools like ValPal are best understood not as job replacements but as a helping hand that gets you home by five. (00:01) Introduction to Trinity — University of Arizona grad who found her way from psychology and sales internships to Valuebase's outreach team(01:39) Learning the ropes in property assessment — adjusting to an unfamiliar industry with a steep but rewarding learning curve(03:05) What Trinity's heard from hundreds of assessors — urban offices lean tech-forward while long-tenured rural assessors tend to be more change-resistant(05:30) Reframing AI as a helping hand, not a replacement — why assessors shouldn't fear tools like ValPal and how domain-specific training makes the difference(09:11) The future of AI-assisted outreach — training models with HubSpot data and company knowledge to compound what works over time(12:14) The hidden complexity of property tax — Trinity's surprise at the industry's depth and her "aha moment" on vertical equity(15:01) Closing — upcoming conferences and meeting assessors in person

    15 min

  5. MAR 9

    70: Zach Smith - Doing More With Less in Rural Mass Appraisal

    On this episode of Assessment Matters, host Will Jarvis sits down with Zach Smith, a former fee appraiser turned rural county chief appraiser, to talk about the realities of mass appraisal and property tax administration. They dig into county-wide revaluations, fixing legacy data in CAMA systems, using technology and GIS to improve data quality, and how to “do more with less” by combining the right tools with the right people.

    15 min

  6. FEB 26

    69: Gonz Sanchez - Argentina, Property Taxes, and AI

    Valuebase CEO Will Jarvis sits down with Gonz Sanchez to explore what property taxation looks like in an economy crushed by extreme inflation. They unpack how Argentina’s money printing, corruption, and cash-based real estate distort assessed values and fairness, and what U.S. assessors can learn about building more resilient property tax systems.

    43 min

  7. FEB 10

    68: There’s Only One Way to Value Property: Data, Stats, and Multicollinearity with Keith Wolf

    On this episode of Assessment Matters, host and Value Base CEO Will Jarvis talks with veteran appraiser and data geek Keith Wolf about what truly drives credible valuations: data and variable interactions. They unpack: How mass and fee appraisal really overlapWhy stats and data science matter for everyday appraisalHow misunderstanding multicollinearity can lead you badly astrayIf you’re an assessor or appraiser using models, this one’s for you.

    23 min

  8. FEB 6

    67: Unlocking Better Ratio Studies: Introducing RatioPal with Will Jarvis & Jonathan Williams

    Still doing ratio studies in CAMA or spreadsheets? On this episode of Assessment Matters, Will Jarvis (CEO, ValueBase) and Jonathan Williams (Account Manager & former assessor) introduce RatioPal – a free, browser-based ratio study tool that lets you upload sales data and instantly see COD, PRD, PRB, VI, outliers, and more. Run studies from a single neighborhood to your entire jurisdiction, spot vertical equity issues faster, and keep all data on your local machine. 👉 Try RatioPal free: valuebase.ai/ratioPal

    9 min
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Assessment Matters presented by Valuebase is a weekly show that delves into the world of real estate valuation and property assessment. Our expert guests share their insights on the latest trends and techniques in the field, and offer practical advice for professionals in the industry. Whether you're a seasoned appraiser or new to the field, you'll find valuable information and inspiration. From understanding mass appraisal methodologies to staying up-to-date on the latest technology, our podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in the world of real estate valuation.

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