Heaven in Business Podcast

Andy & Janine Mason
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Life can be messy. The first step to successfully navigating faith, family and business is an authentic conversation. Andy and Janine Mason get real and raw sharing personal stories, insights, mistakes and lessons learned on his journey with God. Andy tackles the tough topics, including: - Purpose - Hearing from God - Relationships - Decisions - Leadership - Risk - Rejection and promotion - Growth - Success and failure... And much more!

  1. 5d ago

    361. The Grace Effect

    What if grace—not grind—became your business's operating system? In this episode, Andy Mason sits down with Shae Bynes, author of Grace Over Grind and co-founder of Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur, to explore what it looks like to build and lead in partnership with God. Shae shares how fear, anxiety, control, and hyper-independence can quietly shape the way we work—and how trust and surrender create a different way to lead. She also shares her journey from corporate life to entrepreneurship, Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur, and The Grace Effect. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog You’ll discover practical ways to recognize when you’re operating from grind, bring God into business decisions, and ask whether you’re truly following His assignment—or simply staying where you’ve become comfortable. Plus, Shae shares three simple questions for your next “wisdom meeting” with God: • Father, what is on Your heart concerning this?• Jesus, what is Your strategy concerning this?• Holy Spirit, what is the wisdom You want me to know? There is more available when we stop relying solely on our own understanding and learn to lead from trust, surrender, and partnership with God. Shae Bynes is the author of Grace Over Grind and Grace Under Pressure, co-founder of Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur, and creator of The Grace Effect. Learn more about The Grace Effect, its newsletter, and leadership community at GraceEffect.co And Grace Over Grind: https://graceovergrind.com/  Next Steps:  Save the date for the Heaven in Business Conference in Nashville: Heaveninbusiness.com/nashville Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Introducing Shae Bynes01:14 — What is Grace Over Grind?02:29 — From corporate to entrepreneurship03:32 — Learning to do business with God05:43 — Signs you’re operating from grind07:48 — Is your business really operating according to the Kingdom?09:49 — Introducing The Grace Effect12:04 — Taking Kingdom principles into broader business environments13:34 — How do you explain grace?17:45 — Making grace accessible without compromising conviction19:22 — Kingdom over everything21:44 — Following God through changing assignments23:09 — You never graduate from grace25:15 — Why Shae keeps saying yes to Jesus26:26 — Are you called—or just comfortable?27:59 — Trust and surrender30:39 — Three questions to ask God about your business31:48 — There is so much more32:49 — How to connect with Shae33:25 — Final encouragement

  2. Sep 9

    361. Facts, Feedback & Filthy Narratives

    After their recent Heaven in Business event in Dallas, Andy and Janine Mason found themselves processing both incredible testimonies and some very real disappointments. In this episode, they unpack a practical framework for navigating those moments without allowing disappointment to turn into shame—or what Andy calls a “filthy narrative.” Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog You’ll hear why it’s important not to debrief while you’re exhausted, how to separate the facts from the stories you’re telling yourself, and why wise counsel is different from both flattery and criticism. Andy and Janine also share how honest feedback helped them identify what needed to improve while still recognizing everything God had done. Whether you’re processing a disappointing launch, a lost client, a difficult business decision, a relationship setback, or something that simply didn’t turn out as expected, this episode will help you slow down, get perspective, learn, and move forward. In this episode: Why you shouldn’t immediately debrief after a disappointment Separating facts from “filthy narratives” How to receive feedback without falling into shame The difference between wise counsel, flattery, and criticism Learning from what didn’t meet your standards Recognizing what went right—not just what went wrong Bringing the situation back to God and asking what He is saying Moving forward with greater wisdom and clarity Next Steps:  Save the date for the Heaven in Business Conference in Nashville: Heaveninbusiness.com/nashville Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. Timestamps:00:00 — What do you do when things don’t go according to plan?01:15 — What actually happened in Dallas02:20 — Testimonies, connection & encountering God03:30 — The power of peer masterminds and honest feedback05:15 — Where the event didn’t meet expectations06:45 — Empty seats and the stories we tell ourselves08:20 — When you don’t meet your own standards09:20 — Why you shouldn’t debrief immediately11:45 — Give yourself 48 hours before evaluating13:25 — Facts vs. “filthy narratives”15:00 — Finding wise counsel instead of flattery or criticism17:20 — What healthy feedback actually looks like19:10 — Receiving difficult feedback from customers20:35 — How honest feedback produced an unexpected financial win21:30 — Bringing the situation back to God22:30 — A simple two-column exercise to reset your perspective24:15 — Learning without beating yourself up26:15 — What is God saying in the middle of disappointment?27:40 — Keep moving forward28:30 — Save the date: Nashville 2027

  3. Sep 2

    360. The Strategic Power of Discernment

    Have you ever second-guessed your ability to hear God because you got it wrong before? In this episode, Janine Mason explores how to grow in discernment and trust the Holy Spirit’s leading in business and life. She shares why one wrong decision doesn’t disqualify you, how discernment develops through practice, and why it should work alongside—not replace—good due diligence. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog You’ll also learn how to distinguish discernment from suspicion, recognize when past experiences may be influencing your judgment, and respond when you sense hesitation but don’t understand why. If you want to make decisions with greater confidence while staying sensitive to God’s leading, this episode will give you practical tools for the journey. In this episode:• Growing in confidence when you’ve missed it before• Developing discernment through practice• Using discernment in hiring, partnerships, and business decisions• Combining discernment with due diligence• Recognizing discernment vs. suspicion• Avoiding criticism when you can’t explain what you sense• Identifying personal biases that can influence decisions Next Steps:  Book a discovery call and learn more about the Growth Path: Book Now Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. Timestamps:00:00 Can you trust your discernment?01:30 When past decisions shake your confidence05:25 When God speaks without words07:05 Discernment in business and hiring08:45 Discernment takes practice10:25 Discernment + due diligence13:25 Discernment vs. suspicion15:15 You don’t always need to know why18:15 Practical safeguards for discernment20:20 What if you get it wrong?21:00 Recognizing personal bias23:06 Andy’s recap + next steps

  4. Aug 26

    359. What Will You Do if You Can't Quit?

    What happens when God gives you the green light—and then everything seems to go wrong? Joseph and Brittany Williams know what it’s like to build under pressure. While launching and acquiring businesses, they faced a lawsuit, the loss of a major contract, growing payroll, young children, exhaustion, and serious strain on their marriage. In this vulnerable conversation with Jonathan and Kara Sparks, Joseph and Brittany share what that season exposed: where identity had become attached to achievement, where trust in God was actually trust in their own gifts and resources, and what happened when their normal ability to “figure it out” stopped working. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog They also get practical about marriage under entrepreneurial pressure, learning to stop using each other as the source, break cycles of toxic complaining, receive correction, seek wise counsel, and discover that failure doesn’t necessarily mean you missed God. One of the most challenging ideas in the conversation: What if success isn’t always the win? What if obedience sometimes means taking the loss, letting something go, or trusting God with an outcome you desperately wanted to control? Next Steps:  Book a discovery call and learn more about the Growth Path: Book Now Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — What do you do when competence isn’t enough?00:55 — Brittany’s journey into senior living01:34 — Why starting a business can’t just be about money02:07 — Joseph’s unexpected journey into tech02:33 — Leaving corporate leadership for entrepreneurship03:55 — Facing the fear and responsibility of business ownership04:12 — When an acquisition doesn’t go according to plan04:47 — Lawsuit, lost contracts, and financial pressure hit at once05:53 — Why would God lead you into something He knows will be hard?06:29 — What suffering can produce in us07:29 — What surrender to God actually looked like08:00 — When success, reputation, and identity get stripped away09:27 — What the pressure did to their marriage11:17 — God doesn’t measure success by your fiscal year12:58 — What if the Holy Spirit asks you to take the loss?14:36 — Reaching the end of yourself16:19 — Brittany: “I was drowning”19:41 — What pressure revealed about them as leaders and a couple21:01 — When your spouse can’t be your source23:17 — Recognizing toxic patterns of complaining24:04 — How do you get out of the spiral?25:23 — Rebuilding identity on the right foundation25:48 — Why they chose entrepreneurship again27:01 — What they wish someone had told them sooner28:03 — Failure can be part of the process29:27 — The entrepreneur’s greatest strength—and Achilles heel29:55 — Why you need wise counsel and community31:06 — Where to go deeper

  5. Aug 19

    358. Pastor and Business Leader: What We Wish We Knew

    Pastors and business leaders need each other—but too often, they don’t understand each other’s worlds. In this episode, Andy Mason sits down with Randy Griffin, a former pastor, business owner, and current C12 Chair, to explore how we can bridge the gap between church and marketplace. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog You’ll discover: What business leaders wish their pastors understood Why business leaders are already doing ministry at work What pastors wish business leaders understood about them Why business leaders are more than donors or volunteers Practical ways pastors can better equip marketplace leaders How humility and mutual honor can strengthen both sides Pastors don’t need to become business experts, and business leaders don’t need to become pastors. But each carries something the other needs. It’s time to break down the sacred/secular divide, build the bridge, and equip believers to demonstrate the Kingdom of God everywhere—including Monday morning at work. Next Steps:  Sign up for the Dallas Heaven in Business Conference: Heaven in Business Dallas Conference Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 — Why pastors and business leaders need each other01:14 — Randy Griffin's journey from business to ministry and back04:49 — What is C12?05:00 — Helping CEOs recognize God as CEO06:05 — Employees aren't just resources—they're people to care for07:15 — Equipping pastors to unlock their business community08:38 — What business leaders wish their pastors understood10:00 — Are churches measuring the wrong things?11:04 — Is a business leader's greatest value simply giving money?13:32 — One simple thing pastors can do tomorrow14:03 — Get out of the church and visit the workplace15:53 — Practical questions pastors can ask business leaders17:52 — What pastors wish business leaders understood18:49 — The unseen heart and sacrifice of a pastor20:49 — The key business leaders need: humility22:11 — How a business leader can approach their pastor23:33 — Why pastors don't need to have every answer25:06 — Building the bridge between business leaders and pastors26:31 — Why the sacred/secular divide needs to go28:37 — An invitation for pastors and business leaders29:40 — Closing

  6. Aug 12

    357. From Addiction to Kingdom Impact

    How does someone go from alcoholism, gambling addiction, and a life falling apart... to leading with extraordinary generosity and impacting countless lives? In this deeply honest conversation, Tony Caterina shares the journey that changed everything. Tony opens up about growing up without direction, battling addiction, hitting rock bottom at 21, and discovering that freedom wasn't simply about quitting destructive habits—it was about finding Someone greater than his addictions. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog Together, Andy and Tony explore marriage, surrender, hearing God's voice, persistent prayer, and the life-changing decision to eliminate "Plan B." Along the way, Tony reveals how God transformed not only his heart but also his calling, leading him into a life of Kingdom impact through business and generosity. If you've ever wondered whether God can redeem your story—or if you're praying for someone who feels impossible to reach—this episode will encourage your faith. In This Episode Addiction, recovery, and hidden struggles The danger of replacing one addiction with another Rebuilding marriage through total commitment The surprising ways God gets our attention The power of praying for loved ones who seem far from God Learning to hear God's voice Discovering purpose after surrender Why breakthrough often begins with a simple prayer: "Help me, Jesus." Next Steps:  Sign up for the Dallas Heaven in Business Conference: Heaven in Business Dallas Conference Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction: From addiction to extraordinary generosity01:19 – Growing up and early addictions04:22 – Rock bottom and entering rehab05:36 – Trading alcohol for gambling08:35 – Success on the outside, brokenness inside10:51 – Fighting for his daughter and a turning point12:57 – Church, a Bible, and a new beginning15:14 – "No Plan B" and rebuilding marriage16:05 – Gambling returns... one final test17:47 – The power of a sister's 10 years of prayer20:44 – Giving his life to Jesus22:10 – A simple prayer: "Help me, Jesus"23:24 – Hearing God and losing his job24:48 – The lessons: No Plan B & embracing the wheelbarrow26:50 – Learning to hear God's voice29:30 – Reading Scripture with fresh eyes31:48 – From disaster relief to Kingdom impact34:42 – Why Kingdom community matters36:29 – Final encouragement: Don't do it alone

  7. Aug 5

    356. What if Walking with God Was Normal?

    What if hearing God's voice at work was meant to be normal? Bill Job spent more than three decades building businesses in China—not because he had the perfect business background, but because he learned to recognize God's voice and follow it one decision at a time. In this conversation with Andy Mason, Bill shares how learning God's "accent" changed everything: from leading companies with hundreds of employees to giving businesses away, discipling leaders, and seeing Kingdom impact far beyond what he imagined. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog Together, they unpack what it means to treat God as King rather than merely a consultant, why stewardship changes the way we lead, and how simple, ongoing conversation with God can transform your workplace. Whether you're an entrepreneur, executive, or marketplace leader, this episode will inspire you to build your business on a friendship with God rather than on striving. Episode Highlights: A Navy encounter that reshaped Bill's life Starting businesses through obedience rather than expertise Learning to recognize God's voice through practice Why God wants a normal relationship with you at work Stewardship versus ownership Leading employees through abiding in Christ Multiplying Kingdom impact through business Next Steps:  Sign up for the Dallas Heaven in Business Conference: Heaven in Business Dallas Conference Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights/subscribe Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction & Heaven in Business 01:42 – Meet Bill Job: From the Navy to China 03:24 – Business as mission: Impact beyond traditional missions 04:33 – Building companies as a steward, not an owner 05:43 – Starting with philosophy, not business training 06:34 – Launching a business with just $10,000 07:14 – Learning to hear God's voice through listening 10:15 – Recognizing God's "accent" 11:21 – Why most leaders misunderstand the Kingdom 13:41 – Why treating God like a consultant doesn't work 15:08 – Leading people by abiding, not striving 16:56 – The greatest fruit of Bill's life's work 19:11 – Bill prays for marketplace leaders 20:45 – Andy's challenge: Is God your consultant or your King?

  8. Jul 29

    355. Four Simple Steps to Reset Your Focus

    When life feels heavy, where does your mind naturally go?  In this episode, Janine Mason shares a personal story of slipping back into worry and negative thinking during a difficult season. Drawing from her experience after the California wildfires, she explores the powerful choice between focusing on devastation or looking for signs of new life. If you've been carrying family concerns, business pressures, health challenges, or circumstances beyond your control, this conversation offers a simple, biblical pathway back to hope, peace, and faith. Read the blog here: Heaveninbusiness.com/blog Janine walks through four practical steps that helped her break free from anxiety and regain a Kingdom perspective: Repent Pray and release the burden to God Practice thanksgiving and praise Intentionally refocus on God's goodness Nothing in her external circumstances changed—but everything inside her did. In this episode you'll discover: How negative meditation quietly steals hope and faith Why what you focus on shapes how you experience life The lesson God taught through California wildfire recovery Four practical steps to break agreement with fear How to cultivate peace even when circumstances remain unchanged Next Steps:  Sign up for the Dallas Heaven in Business Conference: Heaveninbusinesslive.com Subscribe for weekly insights: Heaveninbusiness.com/newsletters/weekly-insights Join us at an upcoming event: Heaveninbusiness.com/events Subscribe on YouTube: Youtube.com/@heaveninbusiness Share this with someone you know who will be challenged and encouraged. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction: Where is your focus? 00:40 The hidden power of your thought life 01:00 Lessons from the California wildfires 02:20 Choosing hope instead of devastation 02:55 A new challenge and slipping back into worry 04:40 How negative meditation steals hope 05:50 Recognizing agreement with fear 06:20 Four steps to regain hope and peace 06:55 Step 1: Repent 07:35 Step 2: Pray and release it to God 08:35 Step 3: Thanksgiving and praise 09:10 Step 4: Choose your focus 10:00 Your circumstances may not change—but you can 10:55 A final encouragement and prayer 11:35 Heaven in Business events & closing

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Life can be messy. The first step to successfully navigating faith, family and business is an authentic conversation. Andy and Janine Mason get real and raw sharing personal stories, insights, mistakes and lessons learned on his journey with God. Andy tackles the tough topics, including: - Purpose - Hearing from God - Relationships - Decisions - Leadership - Risk - Rejection and promotion - Growth - Success and failure... And much more!

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  • Creator
    Andy & Janine Mason
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2026
  • Episodes
    258
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    Heaven in Business Podcast

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