"Businesses don't fail because of what they do. They fail because of everything else." – Michael Sakata In this week’s episode, Carol Schultz sits down with Michael Sakata, President & CEO of the Maryland Transportation Builders and Materials Association (MTBMA), to discuss how federal policy decisions are impacting small businesses, contractors, and transportation firms across the country. The conversation centers on recent changes to disadvantaged business enterprise (DBE) programs, the uncertainty created by shifting regulations, and what business owners can do when the rules suddenly change. Michael explains how the removal of race-based criteria from DBE certification has created new questions for businesses that have relied on these programs for decades. Rather than focusing on politics, the discussion explores the practical realities facing contractors, engineers, and small business owners as they navigate evolving requirements, funding concerns, and changing government priorities. Carol and Michael also dive into the role of relationships in business success, why networking matters more than ever, and how organizations can remain resilient during periods of uncertainty. The episode closes with lessons on leadership, communication, membership growth, and the importance of staying engaged with industry associations and policymakers. Michael shares how MTBMA has more than doubled its membership under his leadership and why consistent communication remains one of the most important drivers of retention and long-term success. TakeawaysFederal policy changes can create significant uncertainty for small businesses.Changes to DBE certification programs are forcing many companies to reassess their strategy.Business owners should focus on impact rather than politics when evaluating policy decisions.Strong relationships often matter more than formal programs or certifications.Companies that stay engaged with industry groups are better positioned to adapt to change.Infrastructure remains one of the few areas that continues to receive bipartisan support.Consistency and predictability are critical for business growth and planning.Communication is one of the strongest drivers of member, customer, and employee retention.Successful organizations create value through networking, advocacy, and education.Leaders must focus on what they can control rather than reacting to every external change.Trade associations can give businesses a stronger collective voice with policymakers.Growth often comes from listening closely to members, customers, and stakeholders. Chapters00:00 Intro: How federal decisions impact everyday businesses 01:05 Michael Sakata's role and the mission of MTBMA 02:19 Changes to disadvantaged business enterprise (DBE) programs 03:40 What the new certification landscape means for small businesses 05:10 Why uncertainty creates challenges for business owners 06:22 Relationship-building vs. government-supported opportunities 08:19 The original purpose of DBE programs and ongoing debates 10:30 Advice for businesses navigating regulatory changes 11:44 How disadvantaged business status has changed 13:38 Political perspectives and the impact on transportation businesses 15:04 Why businesses need consistency to thrive 17:35 What business owners can do when policies change 18:04 Infrastructure as a rare bipartisan issue 19:45 Michael's career journey into transportation advocacy 20:36 Legislative wins and improving transportation safety 22:14 Why trade associations can influence policy effectively 23:54 The secret behind a 96%+ membership retention rate 26:38 Creating value for members through networking and advocacy 30:28 Collaboration between transportation organizations across states 32:21 Managing change instead of being controlled by it 34:02 How MTBMA more than doubled its membership 36:10 Final thoughts and closing remarks Connect With Host Carol Schultz Find more information about our host Carol Schultz and her company at Vertical Elevation, LinkedIn, YouTube, and Instagram. Want to be our next guest expert? Email cat.gloria@verticalelevation.com with your information. And of course, click "follow" to stay up-to-date on new episodes and leave an honest review/rating letting us know what you thought!