AXSChat Podcast

Antonio Santos, Debra Ruh, Neil Milliken

Podcast by Antonio Santos, Debra Ruh, Neil Milliken: Connecting Accessibility, Disability, and Technology Welcome to a vibrant community where we explore accessibility, disability, assistive technology, diversity, and the future of work. Hosted by Antonio Santos, Debra Ruh, and Neil Milliken, our open online community is committed to crafting an inclusive world for everyone. Accessibility for All: Our Mission Believing firmly that accessibility is not just a feature but a right, we leverage the transformative power of social media to foster connections, promote in-depth discussions, and spread vital knowledge about groundbreaking work in access and inclusion. Weekly Engagements: Interviews, Twitter Chats, and More Join us for compelling weekly interviews with innovative minds who are making strides in assistive technology. Participate in Twitter chats with contributors dedicated to forging a more inclusive world, enabling greater societal participation for individuals with disabilities. Diverse Topics: Encouraging Participation and Voice Our conversations span an array of subjects linked to accessibility, from technology innovations to diverse work environments. Your voice matters! Engage with us by tweeting using the hashtag #axschat and be part of the movement that champions accessibility and inclusivity for all. Be Part of the Future: Subscribe Today We invite you to join us in this vital dialogue on accessibility, disability, assistive technology, and the future of diverse work environments. Subscribe today to stay updated on the latest insights and be part of a community that's shaping the future inclusively.

  1. 2h ago

    Microsoft Treats Accessibility Like Security And Privacy

    AI is everywhere right now, but the most useful question isn’t “what can it do?” It’s “who does it work for?” We sit down with Neil Barnett, Microsoft’s new Chief Accessibility Officer, to talk about what it takes to make technology work for everyone, especially people with disabilities, and why accessibility has to be treated as a core business priority rather than a bolt-on. We get into Microsoft’s long accessibility history and the unglamorous work that actually creates progress: skilling, required accessibility training, and a culture where feedback is treated as a gift. Neil explains how he thinks about the CAO role as translating lived experience into better products and services, and we unpack what it looks like to keep accessibility consistent across a global organization through champions, frameworks, and shared accountability. Then we go deep on disability inclusion and the talent side of accessibility. Neil shares lessons from building inclusive hiring systems, including neurodiversity hiring, and why retention depends on processes like onboarding, manager capability, recruiter readiness, and accommodations. On AI, we move past the buzzword to real outcomes: captions, image descriptions, meeting recaps, and executive function support that many neurodivergent people now rely on, alongside the very real risk of overreliance and lost ideation. We also spotlight a practical resource more people should know about: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk, which provides free support and creates a direct feedback loop into engineering. To wrap, we connect a classic accessibility habit to better AI results: accessible, well-structured documents help AI be more accurate because it needs clean, readable structure much like a screen reader does. Subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    Microsoft Treats Accessibility Like Security And Privacy
  2. Sep 1

    How Japan Is Rethinking Web Accessibility Without Laws

    A single smile can explain web accessibility better than a thousand audits. Makoto Ueki joins us from Japan to share the moment that changed his career: watching an 80+ year old woman, newly blind, learn to search Google with a screen reader and light up when the results finally appeared. That story sets the tone for a practical, human conversation about why accessible technology matters and how inclusive design turns the web into independence.  We also get specific about the reality of web accessibility in Japan and why it differs from the US and Europe. Japan has no laws mandating web accessibility and far fewer lawsuits, which means many teams still fight for basic understanding and stakeholder support before they can even talk about implementing WCAG 2.2. Makoto breaks down how that “why” phase can trap organisations in a checklist mentality and a shift-right process where accessibility gets bolted on late. Then we connect the dots to a global trend: accessibility burnout, driven by isolation, competing priorities, and the struggle to make change inside organisations.  One of the most valuable takeaways is Japan’s perspective on the world’s fastest-aging population. Accessibility isn’t “special work for someone else” it’s better user experience for humans across a whole lifespan. We wrap with Makoto’s most actionable advice: most accessibility issues come down to a short list of web fundamentals like alt text, colour contrast, keyboard navigation, headings, forms, captions, and resizable content, plus usability testing with real users and assistive technology to catch what guidelines miss.  If you found this helpful, subscribe, share it with a teammate, and leave a review with the one accessibility fundamental you plan to improve first. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    How Japan Is Rethinking Web Accessibility Without Laws
  3. Aug 25

    What If Disability Rights Led Innovation First

    “Inclusive” is one of those words everyone loves to say and almost nobody builds all the way through. We sit down with Jamie Cooke, Executive Director of Inclusion International, to get practical about what inclusion really takes for people with intellectual disabilities and their families across more than 100 countries, from local realities to global advocacy at the United Nations. Along the way, we unpack the tension many of us feel inside the disability community: when we splinter into smaller camps, we risk weakening our ability to win the changes that actually make life better.  We also tackle the unavoidable topic of artificial intelligence and accessibility. AI can help simplify complex text, extract meaning, and turn dense documents into usable information, which can open doors in education, civic life, and work. But Jamie names the risks clearly: machine learning systems inherit bias from incomplete data, and disability organisations often lack the capacity, skills, and resources to shape how these tools are built and deployed. If we do not build that capability now, “innovation” can quietly scale exclusion instead of access.  From there, we go straight to disability inclusion in the workplace and what corporations need from us beyond a moral argument. We talk about long-term partnerships, building rewarding careers instead of token jobs, and why disability organisations must “walk the talk” by modelling inclusive hiring and leadership development internally. We end on what it will take to avoid tokenism while still building a credible pipeline of next-generation leaders, plus why better disability data is essential for real accountability. Subscribe, share this conversation, and leave a review so more people can find it and push inclusion forward. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    What If Disability Rights Led Innovation First
  4. Aug 19

    If Inclusion Depends On Your Boss, Is It Inclusion

    A clunky accommodations process can undo years of diversity work in a single bad moment. Neil Milliken sits down with disability inclusion consultant Deb Dagit to get specific about what actually helps employees with disabilities thrive at work and what quietly blocks them, even inside well-meaning companies. Deb shares her lived experience with apparent and non-apparent disabilities, and the practical realities of mobility devices, hearing aids, and a service dog, not as inspiration but as everyday context employers need to understand.  We trace Deb’s journey from early corporate discrimination to founding a nonprofit focused on disability employment, to lobbying for the Americans with Disabilities Act and witnessing the ADA signing in 1990. From there, she returns to the corporate world and becomes one of the early Chief Diversity Officers, giving her a rare long-view on how workplace accessibility, disability rights, and organisational culture move forward. We also talk about why disability inclusion is increasingly recognised as a major market opportunity, and how assistive technology and digital accessibility can expand independence and productivity across neurodiversity, hearing, vision, and mobility needs.  Then we get practical: centralised accommodations budgets, a supported assistive technology catalogue, and the reality that HR can create friction while managers sometimes cut through it. That creates a hard question we don’t dodge: if your access to “reasonable adjustments” depends on whether you got a good boss, is that equity? We close with a grounded look at AI accessibility, why it may be the biggest assistive-tech leap in 25 years for executive function and cognitive accessibility, and why human oversight is non-negotiable to reduce bias and harm.  If you care about disability inclusion, workplace accommodations, accessibility, and better management, subscribe, share this conversation with a colleague, and leave a review with one change you want to see in your own organisation. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    If Inclusion Depends On Your Boss, Is It Inclusion
  5. Aug 11

    How The European Parliament Can Make Accessibility Real

    Accessibility is not a “nice to have” add-on to the economy. It is consumer protection, civil rights, and a growth strategy, and it only becomes real when disabled people are in the rooms where power is exercised. We’re joined by Katrin Langensiepen, a Greens Member of the European Parliament, to talk candidly about what disability representation looks like inside EU policymaking, and how easily the media and the public can reduce a disabled politician to a single topic even when the work spans internal market regulation, social affairs, and equality.  We also get honest about intersectionality and why some people resist the word. Disability never shows up alone: it intersects with gender, migration, race, poverty, and sexuality, and ignoring that reality leaves the most marginalised people behind. Katrin and our hosts explore how ableism shapes fear, how “inspiration” framing can still be dehumanising, and how far-right narratives can pretend to be on disabled people’s side while blaming migrants and refugees for scarcity. That strategy works when communities are made to feel they must compete for dignity.  From there, we shift to the European Accessibility Act and what enforcement really takes. EU accessibility law can set a powerful umbrella standard, but member states control implementation, monitoring, and penalties, which can mean delays, half-measures, and court battles. We connect the dots to AI regulation and assistive technology: AI can close gaps for disabled people, but it can also automate discrimination in hiring and services unless rules protect human rights. We close with a practical lever that often gets overlooked: procurement power, and why buying standards can move markets faster than good intentions.  If you care about disability rights, EU accessibility, inclusive tech, and AI governance, listen now, share this with someone who works in policy or product, and subscribe and leave a review with one accessibility change you want enforced next. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    How The European Parliament Can Make Accessibility Real
  6. Aug 4

    A Blind Founder Builds An AI Assistant You Can Trust

    Your inbox is where productivity goes to die, especially when the tools assume you can constantly scan a screen, hunt for tiny buttons, and triple-check every draft. We sit down with Sriram, founder of Lumin, to unpack what happens when an AI voice assistant is built for blind and low vision users first and held to a higher standard: it has to be accurate enough to trust, fast enough to use daily, and deep enough to handle real email workflows instead of shallow commands.  Sriram shares his journey from video game engineering and immersive tech to entrepreneurship, then the turning point of progressive vision loss from cone rod dystrophy. That lived experience shapes Lumin’s core idea: “talk to your email” in a way that actually gets work done. You’ll hear a live demo where Lumin summarizes new mail, opens a message, describes a photo attachment clearly for social media, drafts a reply, takes an edit, and sends only after confirmation. The conversation digs into why this kind of AI productivity tool is fundamentally different from generic chat apps and why handling attachments, revisions, and back-and-forth is where most assistants break down.  We also get concrete about accessibility and inclusive design: co-design with Lighthouse for the Blind, screen reader support, robust text zoom, and a simplified interface that keeps power in voice commands. Then we look ahead at the product roadmap, including Outlook and calendar support, plus the longer-term vision of meeting users on more devices like Android, smart glasses, and eventually cars. Finally, we tackle AI trust and privacy head-on: clear disclosure of cloud providers, visibility into what Lumin remembers, and user control including account deletion.  Subscribe, share this with someone who lives in their inbox, and leave a review if you want more honest conversations about AI, accessibility, and assistive technology that actually works. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    A Blind Founder Builds An AI Assistant You Can Trust
  7. Jul 18

    How To Build Accessibility Into Business Systems

    AI is rewriting job descriptions, regulators are getting sharper, and accessibility teams are being asked to prove value faster than ever. So we put Neil Milliken in the spotlight to talk about his leap from leading global accessibility at Atos to founding Thrival Holdings, a boutique consultancy built around one simple idea: help organisations create the conditions where people thrive, not just survive.  We dig into how AI in accessibility is changing the work without replacing the need for specialists. Neil breaks down why the future looks less like one-person “expert bottlenecks” and more like scalable accessibility governance: embedding accessibility knowledge into design and engineering workflows, using tools responsibly, and backing it all with regression testing so quality does not drift as models and codebases evolve. We also talk candidly about what happens to collaboration when companies downsize and people feel they must protect individual value.  Then we zoom out to the policy and business side: the European Accessibility Act, real enforcement signals like French rulings that challenge misleading “percentage accessible” scores, and why compliance timelines rarely flip like a switch. We connect accessibility to ESG and sustainability by treating exclusion like pollution, a framing that helps leaders understand negative externalities, the curb cut effect, and the ROI of inclusive design across procurement, risk management, and reporting.  If you care about digital accessibility, WCAG, disability inclusion, and building programs that last through AI and regulatory change, this conversation will give you language and strategy you can use immediately. Subscribe, share the episode with a colleague, and leave a review with the one metric you think would finally make accessibility non-negotiable. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    How To Build Accessibility Into Business Systems
  8. Jul 9

    How WelcoMe Lets Guests Share Access Needs Before Arrival

    A power wheelchair user reaches the gangway on a dream cruise, looks down, and realises there is no safe way off the ship. Everyone cares. Nobody knows what to do. That single moment captures the real accessibility crisis: not a shortage of good intentions, but a shortage of systems that make accessible service repeatable, calm, and consistent.  We sit down with Gavin Neate, founder of WelcoMe, and Mike Clapper of Able2Global to unpack how accessibility can move from awkward last-minute improvisation to something you handle the same way you handle any other guest preference. We talk about why disabled people end up accepting subpar service, why brands hide behind compliance instead of focusing on customer experience, and why hyper-personalization cannot stop at marketing. Welcome’s approach is practical: let people share access and communication needs before they arrive, directly through a venue website or inside booking platform integration, with the guest in control of what they disclose.  We also dig into the execution layer that most organisations miss: staff training. Gavin explains the forgetting curve and why one-off training fails, then shares a lightweight, gamified weekly approach that keeps disability inclusion top of mind without turning it into a checkbox exercise. Mike brings the business case for inclusive hospitality in the United States, showing why accessible travel is both a human issue and a revenue issue, and why the market is far bigger than most leaders assume.  If you care about accessibility technology, hospitality accessibility, and building an accessible guest experience that feels normal instead of exceptional, this conversation will give you a clear model and a few uncomfortable truths. Subscribe, share this with a leader who owns customer experience, and leave a review telling us where you want to see “access needs before arrival” become the standard. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow axschat on social media. Bluesky: Antonio https://bsky.app/profile/akwyz.com Debra https://bsky.app/profile/debraruh.bsky.social Neil https://bsky.app/profile/neilmilliken.bsky.social axschat https://bsky.app/profile/axschat.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoniovieirasantos/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/axschat/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmilliken/ Vimeo https://vimeo.com/akwyz https://twitter.com/axschat https://twitter.com/AkwyZ https://twitter.com/neilmilliken https://twitter.com/debraruh

    How WelcoMe Lets Guests Share Access Needs Before Arrival
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Podcast by Antonio Santos, Debra Ruh, Neil Milliken: Connecting Accessibility, Disability, and Technology Welcome to a vibrant community where we explore accessibility, disability, assistive technology, diversity, and the future of work. Hosted by Antonio Santos, Debra Ruh, and Neil Milliken, our open online community is committed to crafting an inclusive world for everyone. Accessibility for All: Our Mission Believing firmly that accessibility is not just a feature but a right, we leverage the transformative power of social media to foster connections, promote in-depth discussions, and spread vital knowledge about groundbreaking work in access and inclusion. Weekly Engagements: Interviews, Twitter Chats, and More Join us for compelling weekly interviews with innovative minds who are making strides in assistive technology. Participate in Twitter chats with contributors dedicated to forging a more inclusive world, enabling greater societal participation for individuals with disabilities. Diverse Topics: Encouraging Participation and Voice Our conversations span an array of subjects linked to accessibility, from technology innovations to diverse work environments. Your voice matters! Engage with us by tweeting using the hashtag #axschat and be part of the movement that champions accessibility and inclusivity for all. Be Part of the Future: Subscribe Today We invite you to join us in this vital dialogue on accessibility, disability, assistive technology, and the future of diverse work environments. Subscribe today to stay updated on the latest insights and be part of a community that's shaping the future inclusively.

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