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Change always creates resistance and fear. As we move through this crisis, let us take the chance to re-align our focus to what's important and to what we each can do to create change, empathy, and community.

Back2Different Mac Bogert

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.7 • 3 Ratings

Change always creates resistance and fear. As we move through this crisis, let us take the chance to re-align our focus to what's important and to what we each can do to create change, empathy, and community.

    Glenn Behenna - Distinctly Average

    Glenn Behenna - Distinctly Average

    We gathered each other through a mutual friend, Colin Smith. Glenn Behenna worked in the steel industry, as a member of the constabulary (a cop), went back to school, and now he is a Senior Lecturer and Senior Fellow at University of Wales Trinity St. David. He didn't hit his academic stride early, though as he says, "It must have been in there somewhere." We explore culture, society, education, government, "legislated inoffensiveness," change and hope. A couple of well-seasoned guys who...

    • 58 min
    Peter Cook - Bring Their Brains to Work

    Peter Cook - Bring Their Brains to Work

    Music, toxic HR culture, confounded with structure, 'I cycled through the pandemic,' moral hazard and money to be made, exam strategies and rock songs, and then our conversation took off. How can you not like listening in on a conversation with Peter Cook, who wrote Sex, Leadership and Rock N 'RolI: Leadership Lessons from the Academy of Rock?We're each (and both) proponents of a world where jobs encourage people to bring their brains to work.

    • 49 min
    Michael Padurano - Showering in the Dark

    Michael Padurano - Showering in the Dark

    We can be successful in business, outwardly merry, envied and admired. At the same time, we may be carrying a corrosive load of trauma, unhealed emotional and spiritual bruises that can lead to broken relationships, thoughts of suicide, and addictions both behavioral and chemical.Spend some time with Michael Padurano and me as we explore the pain that leads to showering in the dark, and the redemption of a healing oasis.

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Tamsin Astor - A Pillar of Pleasure

    Tamsin Astor - A Pillar of Pleasure

    No stone left unturned in this one. Tamsin Astor is fearless, peripatetic (as in she's been all over the place geographically and educationally), and embracing. I would love to get together with all the back2different community, walk together for a while, then just sit and listen. I am very blessed to be part of this wondrous crowd, and Tamsin is no exception.Tamsin and I run through the Irish goodbye, the dance of the universe, being a good faker, feeling too much, change as life, and all wi...

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Jim Burke - Be Careful Not to Should All over Yourself

    Jim Burke - Be Careful Not to Should All over Yourself

    Jim Burke appeared through my connection with Craig James, and each connection enriches the other. I finally got some time with Jim and off we went, looking carefully into kinds of questions, since the questions we ask, not the answers we find, shape our reality. We batted around living through "Have you thought about this?"We agreed that we both don't know nothin' and just had a grand time traveling through our stories together, both having reached a wonderful step in our road and reach...

    • 59 min
    Phil Williams - Sit in the Dining Car with Total Strangers

    Phil Williams - Sit in the Dining Car with Total Strangers

    I hate scratching my head with "I wonder what s/he meant by that?" First of all, I'm an inept fill-in-the-unspoken-part practitioner. Hence my pleasure at getting together with Phil Williams. He wears no barriers and carries no shields. We travel through Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, time in the burn unit, his family and their home, music, and 'the great perhaps,' among other things. We both dreamed of being engineers, the choo-choo kind, but for very different reasons. Nothing is out of bou...

    • 1 hr 22 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
3 Ratings

3 Ratings

Ariel Rose ,

From a Writer’s Perspective

As a fellow writer and editor, I really appreciate Mac’s interviews.
I am fascinated by what I learn and am able to glean from both him and his guests. So much so, that in his recent interview with Mark O’Brien I found myself listening several times. Starting and stopping, going back to take notes, it is really powerful and enlightening. Thank you Marc for inspiring your listeners who are writers, to become better in their process. Fantastic!

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