Backstage Money

Jason K Powers

Backstage Money is where music and money collide. Host Jason K. Powers talks with musicians and industry insiders about the realities of making a living in music, sharing honest stories, practical insights, and raw lessons to help you stay in control while building a career you love.

  1. MAY 16

    Door Deals, Merch Money, and Playing to Win | Nikki Star (That Arena Rock Show)

    What does it take to build a tribute band into a full-time business? In this episode of Backstage Money, host Jason K. Powers talks with Nikki Starr, founder, owner, manager, and guitarist of That Arena Rock Show, about building one of the hardest working tribute bands on the circuit from the ground up. Now up to 94 shows a year, Nikki shares the real business decisions behind the stage show - reinvesting merch money, door deals, betting on yourself, and what it actually takes to make music your full-time job. If you're trying to build a sustainable career in music, this episode is packed with real, hard-won lessons from someone who figured it out. Topics include: Building a tribute band into a real businessReinvesting merch and show money to grow your productionDoor deals and why they changed everythingFinding the right band members who share your visionThe reality of life on the road vs. the dreamWhat it takes to go from 20 shows to 94 shows a year Follow Nikki Starr & That Arena Rock Show Website: https://www.thatarenarockshow.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thatarenarockshow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatarenarockshow YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThatArenaRockShow Follow Backstage Money Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoney TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@backstagemoney YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@backstagemoney X (Twitter): https://x.com/jasonkpowers Free Guide for Musicians Download A Musician's Guide to Financial Stability https://1024wealth.com/music

    56 min
  2. APR 15

    Lessons From a Career in Rock: What Musicians Need to Know | Shawn Duncan (L.A. Guns)

    What does it really take to survive - and build a long career - in the music industry? In this episode of Backstage Money, host Jason K. Powers sits down with Shawn Duncan, drummer for L.A. Guns and founding member of Odin, to talk about the realities of life as a working musician. Shawn has spent decades performing, recording, and touring in rock music. From the legendary Sunset Strip scene to stages around the world, he shares lessons musicians often learn the hard way about professionalism, persistence, and navigating the business side of music. This conversation dives into the realities behind the stage lights and what it actually takes to build longevity in a tough industry. In this episode we discuss: Lessons from decades in the rock music worldThe realities of touring and performing professionallyWhat younger musicians often misunderstand about the industryWhy relationships and professionalism still matterThe mindset required to stay in the music business long-term If you're an artist trying to build a sustainable career, this episode offers insight from someone who has lived it. Follow L.A. GunsOfficial Website: https://www.lagunsmusic.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/L.A.GunsOfficial/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laguns/ Follow Shawn DuncanInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnduncan007/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shawn.duncan2 Follow Backstage MoneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoney TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@backstagemoney YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@backstagemoney X (Twitter): https://x.com/jasonkpowers Free Resource for MusiciansDownload your free copy of A Musician’s Guide to Financial Stability https://1024wealth.com/music

    54 min
  3. APR 3

    Chris Fletcher on Longevity, Industry Reality, and Staying in the Music Business

    In Part 2 of this Backstage Money conversation, host Jason K Powers continues his discussion with music industry mentor Chris Fletcher, founder of Music Biz Mentors. This half of the conversation focuses on the practical realities of building income as a musician and thinking creatively about career sustainability. Chris shares examples of overlooked opportunities that musicians often miss, from session work and voiceover jobs to writing for television, teaching, production work, and other ways artists can monetize their skills beyond touring and streaming. The discussion also explores sponsorships, endorsements, crowdfunding, and subscription platforms like Patreon. Chris explains how artists can attract brand support, why audience size and engagement matter to sponsors, and how independent musicians can fund projects without taking on unnecessary debt. Jason and Chris also talk about financial discipline for musicians, including tracking income, understanding expenses, negotiating performance fees, and learning how venues actually make money. Chris shares practical advice from years of working with artists on how to price gigs, manage finances, and avoid common mistakes that derail careers. If you are an independent musician, songwriter, or artist trying to turn your skills into sustainable income, this episode offers real-world insight into the business side of staying in the music industry long term. This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation. Part 1 covers starting a career in music, building industry connections, and what most artists misunderstand about getting momentum in the music business. Backstage Money is real-world finance for musicians, where music and money collide through honest conversations with artists and industry professionals who are living it. Connect with Chris Fletcher Music Biz Mentors https://musicbizmentors.com Backstage Money Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoeny Free Financial Resource for Musicians Get the free ebook A Musician’s Guide to Infinite Banking https://1024wealth.com/music

    40 min
  4. MAR 10

    Jason Hartless on Touring with Ted Nugent and Building a Career in the Music Business

    In this episode of Backstage Money, host Jason K Powers sits down with Jason Hartless, touring drummer for Ted Nugent and co-owner of Sound City Entertainment, to talk about what it actually takes to build and sustain a career in the music business. Jason shares his story of growing up around music, developing his craft as a drummer, and eventually stepping into the role of touring drummer for rock legend Ted Nugent. Along the way he explains how musicians get hired, what bandleaders are really looking for, and why professionalism, reliability, and attitude often matter just as much as talent. The conversation dives deep into the realities of the modern music industry. Jason talks about touring life, working relationships inside a band, and how musicians navigate an industry where income streams have shifted dramatically over the last two decades. From touring and merchandise to fan engagement and career longevity, he offers a candid look at what it takes to stay working as a musician today. Jason also shares insights into the business side of music, including how artists adapt to the streaming era, how independent musicians can build sustainable careers, and why understanding the financial realities of the industry is essential for long term survival. If you are a drummer, touring musician, band member, or independent artist trying to build a career that lasts, this episode offers a real world look at the music business from someone who has lived it on stage and behind the scenes. Backstage Money is real world finance for musicians, where music and money collide through honest conversations with artists and industry professionals who are living it. Connect with Jason Hartless Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonhartless Sound City Entertainment: https://www.instagram.com/soundcity_musicgroup Backstage Money Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoeny Free Financial Resource for Musicians Get the free ebook A Musician’s Guide to Infinite Banking at https://1024wealth.com/music

    54 min
  5. FEB 17

    Danny Zelisko on Touring Risk, Selling Tickets, and Staying Alive (Part 2)

    In Part 2 of this Backstage Money conversation, host Jason K Powers continues his discussion with Danny Zelisko, veteran concert promoter and founder of Danny Zelisko Presents. This half of the conversation dives into touring risk, ticket sales realities, and what actually keeps bands alive long term. Danny explains how promoters evaluate risk, why overpaying for a show can sink everyone involved, and how ticket pricing must match what the market will bear. He shares candid insight on loyalty, competition between promoters, and why chasing higher guarantees without understanding your draw can backfire fast. The discussion also tackles VIP packages, meet and greets, rising ticket prices, and the growing cost of live entertainment. Danny offers a blunt perspective on what helps artists build sustainable careers versus what accelerates burnout or audience fatigue. Toward the end, he gives practical advice for up and coming bands on protecting themselves financially, putting agreements in writing, understanding club deals, and avoiding the common mistakes that lead to bad shows and broken relationships. This episode is essential listening for touring musicians, independent bands, managers, and anyone trying to understand the real economics behind live music. This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation. Part 1 covers guarantees, ticket pricing fundamentals, and why some bands get booked while others don’t. Backstage Money is real-world finance for musicians, where music and money collide through honest conversations with artists and industry professionals who are living it. Connect with Danny ZeliskoWebsite: https://dzplive.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dannyzeliskopresents Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dzpresents/ X: https://x.com/dzpresents Backstage MoneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoney Listen on all platforms: https://backstagemoney.captivate.fm/listen Free Financial Resource for MusiciansGet the free ebook A Musician’s Guide to Infinite Banking https://1024wealth.com/music

    44 min
  6. FEB 10

    Danny Zelisko on Guarantees, Ticket Prices, and Why Some Bands Get Booked (Part 1)

    In this episode of Backstage Money, Jason K Powers sits down with Danny Zelisko, a veteran concert promoter whose career spans back to 1974 and includes working with some of the biggest artists in live music history. Danny shares his origin story and how he got into concert promotion, from discovering music as a teenager to booking his first shows and learning the business through real-world trial and error. He breaks down what concert promoters actually do, how booking decisions are made, and why understanding the market matters more than ego. The conversation dives into guarantees, ticket pricing, and the hard realities of live music economics. Danny explains why some bands keep getting booked while others don’t, how pricing mistakes can stall careers, and why promoters have to balance risk, audience trust, and long-term relationships. This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation. Part 2 goes deeper into touring risk, selling tickets, market realities, and what it really takes to survive in live music over the long haul. Backstage Money is real-world finance for musicians, where music and money collide through honest conversations with artists and industry professionals who are living it. Connect with Danny ZeliskoWebsite: https://dzplive.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dannyzeliskopresents Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dzpresents/ X: https://x.com/dzpresents Backstage MoneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoney Free Financial Resource for MusiciansGet the free ebook A Musician’s Guide to Infinite Banking https://1024wealth.com/music

    42 min
  7. JAN 30

    The Next Evolution of Music Funding, with Justin Longo of MariNation

    In this episode of Backstage Money, host Jason K Powers sits down with Justin Longo, founder and CEO of MariNation, a new platform exploring how fans, artists, and data could reshape the way music is funded. Justin breaks down the problem artists face today, streaming pays more than ever at the industry level, but individual artists see less value per song than ever before. The conversation explores how artists are forced to self-fund releases, tours, and content long before the music ever generates income, and why that financial pressure often stalls creative momentum. Justin explains how MariNation approaches this challenge through a fantasy-style, risk-free music investing game that tracks real artist performance data, allowing fans to engage with music in a deeper way while competing for real prizes and experiences. The discussion also looks ahead at what the future could hold, including artist equity, fan participation, and new ways artists might fund careers without selling off their rights too early. This episode is for independent musicians, touring artists, music entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in the intersection of music, technology, and financial sustainability. Backstage Money is real-world finance for musicians, where music and money collide through honest conversations with artists and industry professionals who are living it. Connect with Justin Longo & MariNationWebsite: https://marinationmusic.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mari__nation TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mari..nation Backstage MoneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/backstagemoney Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backstagemoney Free Financial Resource for MusiciansGet the free ebook A Musician’s Guide to Infinite Banking https://1024wealth.com/music

    37 min

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Backstage Money is where music and money collide. Host Jason K. Powers talks with musicians and industry insiders about the realities of making a living in music, sharing honest stories, practical insights, and raw lessons to help you stay in control while building a career you love.