BAD WORDS

Janice Lagata

An exvangelical podcast giving toxic theology the read it deserves by taking another look at some of the bad books given major influence in evangelical christianity. Hosted by Janice Lagata and Melanie Kleimola

  1. 6h ago

    Open Letter to Black Exvangelical Leaders

    Dear Tamice, Malynda, Kristian and Ciara — This is the 1st draft of this letter. That is mostly a note to self, because I keep thinking of the stutter in terms of one I started to write on April 7th of this year. Similar in tone but to someone completely different. Someone we all know, and anyway, I never finished that letter. I thought this would be a continuation, a spinoff of that, but reading that other draft of that other letter? Ugh. Not only was it for someone I don't speak to anymore, it was from someone I don't speak as anymore. Honestly, I couldn't even finish it. It was embarrassing how gentle it was.  Before reading it, I had a thought that maybe I would go back to one of the last official religious resignation letters I wrote. Maybe the one from nine years ago to the lead pastor of the mega church I was part of, or maybe the open letter from six years ago that kinda catapulted me into this space when I wrote about the evangelical behavior of that pastor when it lost him his job. To see, and, I guess, prove not only how much I've grown, but that I grew up here, in front of y'all, to prove my right to be here, and to say what I'm about to say. To show you all my papers, 'cause that's what we've been conditioned to do as black folks.  But, turned out there was no need for me to go that far back to be cringeworthy.  Daniel and I, as Cat Tetris, are posting something to social media every day in August. He's got the odd days. I got the evens. And today is an even day, so...  We are posting to make ourselves practice a few different visibility skills, including no disclaimers. So we've got a 10 word caption limit. Because there is never a day when I legitimately have nothing to post, but there are infinite times I don't, because I feel like I need to explain what I'm sharing, and I can't, because what's understood doesn't need to be explained. So the fact that I'm constantly expecting to be misunderstood here, that's actually red flag shit, 'cause it didn't used to be this way. I didn't used to feel that way in or about this space.  The whole way I fell in was just speaking my mind and connecting with people who were in the same spiritual and or emotional and or mental place at the same time. And for a while, it was fine. But at some point, we lost the plot, because we stopped following it. We stepped into the space and started just standing around, commiserating instead of conspiring, plodding in circles, instead of plotting and planning. Settling instead of setting off.  One of my best friends just FaceTimed me. I told her I was writing this letter, and that it's a step in my plan to give us free. I know she believed me about this letter. I hope she believed me about the freedom, and I hope I come through.  So I didn't end up looking back at either of those other letters. They don't matter. They were to and for an audience that has aged badly and is looking more and more like its parents.  I'm handwriting this letter. When I finish this draft, I will go back and rewrite all of this, to satisfy the people pleasing part of my brain that likes being known for my handwriting. I'm not going to type it, because typing allows for a certain level of convenience that lends itself to wasting words. But when handwriting, ain't nobody got time for all that. So it helps me stay focused.  I'm leaving the deconstruction space for real and for good this time. I've been trying to leave for the past few years, which is extremely reminiscent of how I left, and how I felt, leaving evangelicalism. There were attempts, and then there, eventually, was a definitive break. This is my definitive break from exvangelicalism, which is literally just new evangelicalism. And y'all are the new tokens.

  2. May 19 ·  Bonus

    hijacked by "better gods"

    A quick heads-up before you hit play: for this episode BAD WORDS is being hijacked by "better gods". Welcome to a special broadcast introducing better gods—an offensive Christian podcast hosted by Janice Lagata where she doesn’t talk to people she doesn’t like. Consider this episode a masterclass in friendly fire, a clearing of the decks, and the official introduction to the next phase of Janice's public ministry. If you’ve been following Janice's journey through the deconstruction space, you know she left her social media platform last year. In this premiere episode of her new venture, she explains exactly why she left, what she learned from the outside looking in, and why she is completely done investing hope in white male proxies or centering aggrieved white women who can't hold nuance or see Black women as actual people with agency. From the dehumanizing "White Shirt" tier systems of her past Christian employers to the shallow, capitalistic numbers game of the modern exvangelical movement, Janice holds nothing back. What You'll Hear in This Episode: The Origin Story: Why this episode drops on May 18th—the birthday of Janice's late cat, David. The Bubble Problem: Disillusionment in the exvangelical space and the rise of the mediocre white "midman". Imagined Communities: The deep sociological difference between a country and a nation. The Announcement: A breakdown of the new bi-weekly better gods schedule, the Study To Be Quiet Hour, and the upcoming BYO Elder Book Club. Where to Find the New Space:The old email address isn't going anywhere. If you want to submit to be on the new show for Tell Me About Your God, apply for Debate Practice, or get information on the Study To Be Quiet creative hours, reach out directly. 📬 Get in Touch: godhasnotgiven@gmail.com 🎧 Subscribe to the new feed: Search for better gods on your favorite podcast platform to catch every new episode dropping bi-weekly starting the week of Juneteenth.

    hijacked by "better gods"
  3. 07/16/2025

    311. PEE SOUP FOR THE SOUL with Stephanie

    In this episode of Bad Words, hosts Janice, Melanie, and Stephanie delve into the problematic aspects of chapters 28-30 of Redeeming Love. The conversation highlights key plot points, including Angel's traumatic past and her current struggles with identity and self-worth. The hosts critique the portrayal of Michael as a supposedly virtuous man despite his manipulative and controlling behavior, and they address the book's disturbing themes of child abuse, victim-blaming, and evangelical beliefs. The episode also explores the problematic representation of sex work and trafficking, and how the novel perpetuates harmful stereotypes and unhealthy dynamics. The hosts question Francine Rivers' choices in depicting trauma and scrutinize the underlying messages about women's roles and value in evangelical ideology. 00:00 Introduction and Recap 01:30 Meet the Hosts 03:42 Stephanie's First Encounter with the Book 05:54 Revisiting the Book in 2024 15:26 Angel's Journey and Struggles 18:15 Critique of Francine's Writing and Themes 52:59 Women Hating Women 53:20 Francine's Hatred for Angel 54:01 Angel's Father's Tragic End 54:15 Duke's Manipulation and Angel's Guilt 54:55 The Disturbing Story of Angel's Father 55:14 Angel's Struggle with Guilt and Blame 56:54 Biblical References and Twisted Morals 58:55 The Cycle of Abuse and Trafficking 01:08:05 Evangelicalism and Trauma Porn 01:28:22 The Church's Failure and Evangelical Hypocrisy 01:36:40 Final Thoughts and Critique of Francine Rivers

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An exvangelical podcast giving toxic theology the read it deserves by taking another look at some of the bad books given major influence in evangelical christianity. Hosted by Janice Lagata and Melanie Kleimola

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