Do Human Work

7AI

Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.

  1. 11月20日

    Fight Fire With Fire: Using AI to Outpace Attackers featuring Ron Eddings

    How is AI reshaping the cybersecurity landscape, and what does this mean for the future of cyber professionals? In this episode, Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Ron Eddings, a gen AI security researcher and co-founder and CEO of Hacker Valley Media, to explore these pressing questions. Ron discusses his journey from a traditional cybersecurity role to becoming a thought leader and content creator focused on the confluence of humanity and technology. The conversation delves into Ron’s belief that AI will one day replace many cybersecurity roles, but not without creating opportunities for new, more strategic positions. They also explore the notion of AI agents, multi-agents, and the potential magic of a model context protocol. Throughout the episode, Ron offers insights into how AI can eliminate repetitive, non-human tasks, freeing up time for creativity and strategic thinking. He elaborates on his contrarian belief in the capacity of AI to eventually overhaul cybersecurity jobs, for the better. Together, the hosts and Ron reflect on how the integration of AI in cybersecurity will redefine the way we talk, train, and work in this field. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – Ron’s mission in cybersecurity content 02:00 – From mental athlete to thought leader 03:00 – Creating a platform, not just a podcast 07:00 – AI’s impact on Tier One analysts 10:00 – AI agents explained through a personal story 12:00 – The evolution to multi-agent systems 15:00 – Real-time data challenges in AI development 24:00 – Providing exceptional value in the experience age 25:00 – Contemplating the future: AI to replace cybersecurity jobs Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    34 分钟
  2. 10月7日

    People-Led, AI-Driven: When Humans Lead, Tech Follows featuring Wayman Cummings

    In this episode of Do Human Work, Nate Burke and Lior Div welcome Wayman Cummings, the Chief Information Security Officer at Ochsner Health Systems, to discuss the revolutionary role of AI in cybersecurity. From pioneering the use of robots at the Super Bowl to insights on mentoring diverse teams, Wayman shares his vision for AI as an enabler of human potential. The episode explores how he integrates AI into cybersecurity practices to empower defenders and why he believes in choosing partners over vendors for collaborative success. Wayman also provides a unique perspective on hiring practices that could transform cybersecurity teams, focusing on unconventional backgrounds and innate problem-solving abilities rather than traditional experience. As AI continues to reshape industries, Wayman envisions a future where technology works hand-in-hand with human ingenuity, creating powerful synergies and new opportunities for growth.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:20 – Augmented intelligence at the Super Bowl 02:45 – AI in cybersecurity threats and defense 05:55 – Partnership over vendors in tech 08:10 – Unconventional hiring practices 10:30 – Applying unique analyst skills 12:45 – AI's role in understanding threats 18:05 – Predictive analysis using AI 22:30 – Unreasonable hospitality in healthcare 25:00 – The future of AI and human collaboration 27:20 – Humility and communication for aspiring CISOs   Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    28 分钟
  3. 9月15日

    AI Before It Was Cool: Law Firm Innovation featuring Jason Thomas

    What happens when a law firm becomes an early adopter of AI? Hosts Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Jason Thomas, CIO of Cole, Scott & Kissane, Florida’s largest civil defense law firm, to explore how AI is changing up the legal and cybersecurity landscape. From pioneering AI in finance operations nearly a decade ago to empowering teams with cutting-edge automation, Jason shares how his firm challenges the stereotype of law firms as technology laggards. Recorded live at Black Hat 2025, this conversation covers cultural shifts needed to embrace AI, the importance of reallocating talent rather than replacing it, and why the modern SOC may already be on the path to legacy status. Discover how forward-looking leaders like Jason are redefining human work, keeping teams engaged, and preparing for the AI-driven future of cybersecurity. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 02:00 – Law firms embracing cutting-edge AI 03:15 – Reallocating people to meaningful work 04:45 – AI as augmentation, not replacement 06:00 – First impressions of 7AI’s potential 07:45 – Building a culture of curiosity and trust 10:00 – Marketing hype vs. AI reality 12:00 – Trust and reputation in cybersecurity 13:15 – Why law firms are prime cyber targets 15:00 – The “magic wand” time question 16:00 – The SOC of today is legacy 18:00 – The pace of AI evolution 20:00 – From single agents to swarms 22:00 – Reinventing help desk and user support 24:00 – Correlating alerts like human intuition 25:00 – The future is already here Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    24 分钟

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Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.