Before It Made Sense

Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams

Before It Made Sense is a podcast about the phase before everything clicks. Hosted by Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams, the show explores the real stories behind artists, creators, entrepreneurs, and visionaries building something from nothing. From music and fashion to business, identity, failure, and ambition, these conversations focus on the moments people usually never see — the uncertainty, sacrifice, pressure, and persistence before success becomes visible. Raw conversations. Real perspective. Before it made sense.

Episodes

  1. May 31

    Merhan Keller | Before It Made Sense Ep. 3

    In this episode of Before It Made Sense, we sit down with Merhan Keller — model, activist, and founder of High Society Modeling and Creative Agency. Merhan talks about building a platform for emerging designers, the gatekeeping inside fashion, why raw talent is often overlooked, and what it really takes to create opportunities instead of waiting for permission. From runway modeling to producing shows across major fashion capitals, this conversation is about fashion, business, resilience, and building something bigger than yourself. Follow Merhan Keller:https://www.instagram.com/merhankeller/High Society:https://highsocietymodeling.com https://highsocietymgmt.com https://www.instagram.com/highsocietymodeling https://www.instagram.com/highsocietymgt Before It Made Sense Ep. 3Hosted by Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams

    45 min

  2. May 24

    Thomas “Teeba” Forbes | Before It Made Sense Ep. 2

    In Episode 2 of Before It Made Sense, we sit down with Thomas “Teeba” Forbes — a Grammy-nominated musician, producer, and bassist — for a real conversation about what it actually takes to build a life in music.Teeba talks about his journey through funk, hip-hop, R&B, jazz, and beyond, while opening up about the side of the industry people rarely see: major credits not always meaning financial stability, side hustles protecting the art, unpaid sessions, long drives, creative relationships, and learning how to trust yourself before the outside world fully understands what you’re building.We also talk about collaboration, failure, versatility, life experience, and why sometimes the simplest thing you play can make somebody feel the most.This episode is about the years of showing up, figuring it out, and staying connected to the work before it all makes sense.Follow Thomas “Teeba” Forbes:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teeba_forbesWebsite: https://teebamusic.com/Follow Before It Made Sense:Instagram: @BeforeItMadeSenseTikTok: @BeforeItMadeSenseYouTube: @BeforeItMadeSense#BeforeItMadeSense #TeebaForbes #MusicPodcast #CreativeJourney #MusicIndustry #ProducerLife #ArtistJourney #Podcast

    43 min

  3. May 17

    Lightcraft | Before It Made Sense Ep. 1

    Lightcraft joins Before It Made Sense to talk about building a band across two decades, performing internationally, staying grounded through growth, and the reality of chasing music before success becomes visible. The Indonesian pop band reflects on their journey from forming in college in 2006 to performing across North America, Europe, and Asia. The conversation explores hope, identity, persistence, touring, creative evolution, balancing music with real life, and what it takes to keep going when the path still doesn’t fully make sense. Hosted by Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams. Follow Lightcraft: Instagram: @lightcraftmusic Follow Before It Made Sense: Instagram: @beforeitmadesense New episodes and clips weekly.

    31 min
  • 3 Episodes

About

Before It Made Sense is a podcast about the phase before everything clicks. Hosted by Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams, the show explores the real stories behind artists, creators, entrepreneurs, and visionaries building something from nothing. From music and fashion to business, identity, failure, and ambition, these conversations focus on the moments people usually never see — the uncertainty, sacrifice, pressure, and persistence before success becomes visible. Raw conversations. Real perspective. Before it made sense.

Information

  • Creator
    Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams
  • Years Active
    2K
  • Episodes
    3
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Paris Heart and Jaeson Williams
  • Show Website
    Before It Made Sense