In this episode, Dr. Mandy has a conversation with her friend, Dr. Tara Harding, on the effect of hormones on scoliosis and what patients need to consider when looking for answers on the internet. This is a MUST LISTEN TO episode for parents of teens, teens, and women in your 20's, 30's, 40's and beyond. Listen in to find out helpful tips and be sure to check out the links below for more information! Dr. Tara Harding is the owner of Simply You Wellness and an experienced doctorate family nurse practitioner and fertility coach with patients worldwide. She received her master’s and doctorate degree from George Washington University and has received an additional certification through the American Society of Reproductive Medicine (ASRM) and Marquette Method Certified. After facing personal health challenges, she decided to leverage her experience and knowledge to help individuals and families improve their health and wellness. As a result,she created a unique approach to healthcare at Simply You Wellness. Dr. Tara empowers her patients to understand and take control of their health while being a partner in their health journey, supporting them as they navigate the path to optimal health and well-being. Connect with Dr. Tara at simplyyouclinic.com and subscribe to her podcast, Hopeful Hints, at https://simplyyouclinic.com/podcast/ or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. *****Resource Links You Need: Contact Dr. Mandy's office to learn how to work with her by calling (701) 223-8413 or email her at info@drmandychiro.com. Free Online Screening Tool: https://app.scoliscreen.com/ Find out more about ScoliBalance® at https://scolicare.com/patients-scolibalance. Find out more about ScoliBrace® at https://scolibrace.com. *****Transcript***** Hi, I'm Dr. Mandy Dietz and you're listening to The Behind the Brace podcast. Each week I'll be sharing conversations and resources to help families and providers navigate the world of scoliosis. This is your place to find hope for a better solution so that you can live your best life.Welcome back. This week we have a guest on our podcast that I'm super excited to introduce. Today we have Dr. Tara Harding, the founder of Simple You Wellness. She's a doctorate prepared family nurse practitioner that specializes in hormone health for men, women and children, and integrative women's care.She's passionate about helping patients move beyond being told everything is normal, and instead uncover the root causes of symptoms like fatigue, weight changes, mood swings, and cycle irregularities. She brings extensive clinical experience, a personalized approach, and a shared dedication to helping patients feel like themselves Again, her clinic is leading the way in transforming how hormone health is addressed, and she empowers patients to be heard, understood, and truly cared for.Welcome.Hey, thank you.Yes, thanks for coming on today. So I'm super excited to have you here because there's a big conversation happening in the scoliosis world that it doesn't have a ton of research behind it, but we know that it's affecting patients that have scoliosis. And as I do more of this work, I've got patients that come in my office, they have questions, and it's not within my, it's not within my specialty.Specialty. Yes, yes. And I know about it, but it's not something that I have dedicated my career too. Right? So, this is within your wheelhouse. Yeah. So thanks for coming on. Yeah. You know, I'd like to just shout out patients, right? Like, I think sometimes patients have to get a degree. You know, we always joke about Dr. Google, but what do patients do when they're left with no answers? You go to one side of medicine and they're told. Everything's fine. Nothing to do here. You can't fix that. You can't change that. That won't help that. That's not FDA approved. And then you go to the other side of the spectrum and it's like, here, take a bazillion things.I'm gonna cure you overnight and give me this timeframe, this money and everything will be fixed. Right? So patients are really put in a hard spot. From every avenue of healthcare, whether they're young adolescents, um, young women, young men, I mean, really. We could go on and on about that, but it's really hard when you're met with a diagnosis and you get a diagnosis, right, such as scoliosis.Mm-hmm. And it's like, now what? Yeah. Now what do we do? What do we do here now? No, it's hard. Um, in the conversations that I have with patients. You know? Okay. So we all probably do it, even though we say don't do it. But you get a diagnosis and what do you do? You Google it. I encourage it. Right, right. I'm gonna say it.I encourage it. Let's go to the socials. Go. There's great content out there nowadays, right? From good resources and bad resources, but there's a lot out there. Yeah. You have to discern the difference. You do, right? You do. So if you have a hard time discerning the difference between resources that are Yeah.Reputable and resources that are not, sometimes you fall in this crack that can be pretty dangerous. Very. And expensive. And expensive and waste a lot of time. Yep. Actually, so, so that's really, that's why I wanted to have you on and talk about this today, because what I'm finding is, um, so there's this piece of it where patients come in, they're diagnosed with the scoliosis, whether they're a juvenile, adolescent, their kids, right.They're growing, or maybe even they're adults and they've had scoliosis for a really long time. And they find all of this information, and we do know that there are certain things that come along with that diagnosis. Like for example, just like a quick rundown, right? So we know that kids that are diagnosed with scoliosis, it typically, uh, it tends to show up between the ages of 10 and 14.It's typically right before or during puberty. There are a lot of changes going on. We know there are some link to hormones, but. We haven't, nobody's been able to really nail it down. Yeah, exactly. We know that oftentimes there are other things that are, that affect that, whether that's like vitamin D levels or sometimes, um, people have been talking, they'll come in and they'll talk about, um, copper levels that are too high or they'll talk about, um, just a lot of different things that we know that oftentimes those patients might struggle with.But at the same time, there's not really anything in the research or in the science piece of it to say. You know, okay. Like if you have this problem, like say you have this hormone problem or this vitamin D or whatever it might be. We don't know that that for sure makes you have scoliosis, but we do know that patients that have scoliosis oftentimes have those things that are problems.Yeah. So then what do we do with that? Well, if we had a magic wand, we'd have better research and funding for research. Right, right. So we can't, patients have to be very careful about where they're getting their information from. Like you said, is it research back? Like what is there to show that this claim is going to work?What we do know, as you mentioned, some very key times, 10 to 14 puberty. Hormones are rapidly changing during that time. Nutrients, vitamins, supplements, rapidly changing during that time. So it would make sense that bone formation situations would arise during that time. Right. And genetics, mm-hmm. Go hand in hand.So not everyone has information of their genetics, but if you do, it's again looking at is there someone in the family that has this diagnosis or other hormonal issues as they progressed in life? And looking back on that. Estrogen, testosterone, thyroid, insulin, cortisol. When people hear hormones, they think like estrogen, like that's the first thing that comes to their head.Maybe progesterone, maybe testosterone. We're lucky. Thyroid, insulin, cortisol. There's all these different hormones and most we're lucky if we, if patients come in and they've had one or two looked at, never is the full picture being looked at. Then we look at iron, nutrients, vitamin D, magnesium. Let's not forget about gut.You can take all the things in the world, all of the, whether it's even in a prescription or a supplement, and if your gut health isn't working or not on point, how are you gonna absorb all of that? And is there an absorption issue that's, you know, tailing back to some of these things too. People forget.Providers, let's just say providers sometimes forget to look at the whole picture and that pivotal time where you're seeing this happen, there is a cascade, rapid cascade of things going on that we could interject and help with. We have to look at them as a whole picture though, right? We have to do the appropriate workup.These, these children aren't getting in a workup. They're going in. Bringing forward maybe a symptom or a concern and it's being dismissed, or they're not even getting adequate lab levels drawn to look at vitamin D levels, look at nutrient levels, look at their hormones, talk about their periods if they're a female, right?Like these things just aren't happening, so how can we intervene appropriately to help maybe slow down that process or intervene in that process if they're not even getting a full workup. The conversation's even happening at their provider's office to offer that as an option too. And the other piece of that too, is that sometimes it's the other way where, you know, maybe they go to a medical provider and they're not getting the workup, so then they're not doing anything.But I've also had families where they go somewhere and sometimes it's states away. Right. So we're in North Dakota. Yeah, we're rural, right. That we don't have access to a ton of things, but sometimes I've heard where they go to a facility. They get zero workup, but they get handed a box of whatever supplements or this or that, and it's, you know, $900 a month and woo.Red flakes. You know what I mean though? Yeah. So then th