Behind the Brilliance

Lisa Nicole Bell

Behind the Brilliance is the go to podcast for the intellectually curious and relentlessly ambitious. The show features weekly long form interviews with innovative and culture-shaping leaders in art, culture, technology, business, lifestyle, and personal development along with Lisa's inspiring and funny advice on life, creativity, and entrepreneurship.

  1. Having More Than Enough: Money, Meaning, and Rethinking Ambition

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    Having More Than Enough: Money, Meaning, and Rethinking Ambition

    SUMMARY Physician and author Jordan Grumet joins Lisa for a wide-ranging, deeply reflective conversation about what happens when the life you worked toward no longer defines who you are. Jordan shares his personal journey through medicine, financial independence, and hospice care, including the unexpected panic that followed reaching financial freedom earlier than anticipated. What was supposed to be a moment of celebration was a terrifying realization: without work, his identity collapsed. Drawing from his work with the dying and his own experience of burnout, he explains why money and achievement fail to resolve deeper questions of meaning, and how so many of ys mistake purpose as something to be proven rather than lived. The discussion unpacks the difference between meaning and purpose, the hidden costs of trauma-driven ambition, and why subtracting what drains us often matters more than adding what impresses us. The conversation moves fluidly between philosophy and pragmatism, touching on time, mortality, creativity, legacy planning, curiosity, and the critical work of rebuilding a life that aligns with personal values. This is a conversation about modern ambition and  how to reassemble identity, motivation, and direction once certainty dissolves and the old reasons stop working. Behind his brilliance: Empathy + Intuition   TOPICS COVERED  ·  What happens psychologically after financial independence ·  Identity loss and disorientation after achievement ·  Meaning vs. purpose — and why confusing them creates anxiety ·  Trauma-driven ambition and "purpose built from scarcity" ·  Why money is a tool, not an endpoint ·  Subtraction as a life design strategy ·  Purpose anxiety and the myth of "big P" purpose ·  Hospice work and lessons from the dying ·  Regrets of the dying and how they inform daily living ·  Mortality as a clarifying force rather than a morbid one ·  Curiosity as an antidote to fear and burnout ·  The achievement treadmill and hedonic adaptation ·  Creative work, writing, and process-based fulfillment ·  Legacy planning: emotional and practical considerations ·  Slowing down, seasons of life, and doing less better   THINGS MENTIONED Jordan Grumet Jordan's books:  Taking Stock, The Purpose Code FIRE Status Anxiety — Alain de Botton The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem — Nathaniel Branden The Simple Path to Wealth — JL Collins The White Coat Investor — Jim Dahle Jack Reacher — Lee Child I'm Dead, Now What - end of life planning book

    1h 41m

  2. 12/25/2025

    Beyond Goals and Resolutions: 6 Strategies for a Better Year

    In this special year-end episode of Behind the Brilliance, Lisa presents six evidence-based strategies for designing a year that feels good while you're living it. Moving beyond traditional goal-setting advice, this episode explores the psychological architecture behind sustainable achievement: why updating your self-concept matters more than willpower, how to engineer habits that survive bad days, and why strategic incompetence is a sophisticated choice rather than a failure. Lisa shares a liberating perspective on deciding what deserves optimization versus maintenance and makes the case for building celebration into your system. If you're tired of aspirational new year hype, this episode offers a more strategic, psychologically grounded approach to having a great year.   TOPICS COVERED Identity architecture: Why self-concept determines behavior success Designing habits for bad days, not ideal conditions Addition by subtraction: The power of strategic elimination Intentional incompetence: Permission to not master everything Minimum effective effort: Maintenance vs. optimization modes Building celebration into your achievement system The relationship between identity and execution Engineering consistency by removing friction Distinguishing between habits you need vs. habits you think you should have   THINGS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE  Lisa's newsletter, CUE Psychocybernetics by Maxwell Maltz Atomic Habits by James Clear Obvious to You (video) by Derek Sivers Minimum Effective Effort (essay) by Lisa

    27 min

  3. 09/04/2025

    The Best of Season 15

    Season 15 of Behind the Brilliance delivered a mix of leading voices in psychology, entrepreneurship, and life design. This special recap distills the most powerful insights into one place highlighting big ideas and useful tools on happiness, resilience, and building a life and business on your own terms. Guests include Tal Ben-Shahar, Ellen Hendriksen, Jodi Wellman, Rand Fishkin, Chris Guillebeau, Anne-Laure Le Cunff, Elaine Pofeldt, Rae Wynn-Grant, Ahad Khan, and Sieva Kozinsky. The episode also includes a listening guide to match your interest with the relevant episode.  The recap concludes with reflections on the season's central theme: learning to work with human nature rather than against it. Essential listening for anyone who wants to understand what made Season 15 special and where to dive in next.

    32 min
  4. Chris Guillebeau on Escaping Time Anxiety and Building a Self-Directed Life

    08/28/2025

    Chris Guillebeau on Escaping Time Anxiety and Building a Self-Directed Life

    Chris Guillebeau, bestselling author and creator of The Art of Nonconformity, joins Lisa to explore what it really takes to build a self-directed life. He shares his unconventional path from high school dropout and aid worker in West Africa to global traveler, author of nine books, and entrepreneur. Chris unpacks the philosophy behind his work—why you don't have to live your life the way others expect—and introduces the concept of time anxiety, the tension between the fear of running out of time and the paralysis of endless choices. The conversation covers everything from the psychology of "enough" and how mortality awareness can sharpen your priorities, to practical strategies for leaving things undone, creating accountability structures, and decluttering your calendar. Chris also opens up about ADHD, therapy, and why you should ask yourself at the end of the day, "Did today matter?" Behind his brilliance: Refusing to accept "no" and always looking for another way. TOPICS COVERED ·       The difference between traditional anxiety and time anxiety ·       Why having more choices creates its own form of paralysis ·       The two types of time anxiety: existential panic and decision overwhelm ·       How ADHD diagnosis changed his relationship with productivity ·       Why working for yourself is actually the conservative choice ·       The myth that independent work is inherently risky ·       Moving from "you can be anything" liberation to burden ·       Why curiosity without follow-through is just floating ideas ·       The seasonality of creative work and energy cycles ·       How to measure success by what you control vs external outcomes ·       The power of asking "Did today matter?" over productivity metrics ·       Why leaving things undone is a radical act in completion culture ·       The difference between hard work and passionate engagement ·       How to use death as a clarity tool rather than anxiety trigger ·       Platform agnosticism and the creator economy evolution ·       The accountability structures that support independent creators ·       Why caring about your work trumps optimization systems ·       Moving from rules-based to values-based decision making ·       The future self trap and why motivation doesn't transfer ·       How to create enough-ness in a never-enough culture

    1h 13m

  5. 08/21/2025

    Sieva Kozinsky on The Path from early failures to Enduring Ventures: lessons on fear, focus, and the long game

    THE SHOW In this episode of Behind the Brilliance, entrepreneur and investor Sieva Kozinsky joins the show to share his journey from first-generation immigrant beginnings to co-founding Enduring Ventures, a holding company that acquires and grows businesses for the long game. Sieva opens up about the fear that fueled his early ventures, the lessons learned from failed startups and pivots, and why fundraising can sometimes blind founders to what really matters. We dive deep into the psychology of selling a company, the art of negotiation with founders, and how legacy is built (or destroyed) in the years after an exit. Sieva also reflects on emotional discipline, meditation, and why surrounding yourself with the right five people may be the single most important factor in your growth. This conversation extends beyond building businesses to explore a useful philosophy for building a life you'll still be proud of twenty years from now. Behind his Brilliance: His mother and grandmother  TOPICS COVERED How Sieva's immigrant upbringing shaped his resilience Pivoting from pre-med to entrepreneurship The pivotal college class that changed everything Why early failures were his best education Lessons from building and pivoting StudySoup Bootstrapping vs. raising venture capital (and why he regrets fundraising early) The psychology of fear as a driver in entrepreneurship Emotional discipline: responding instead of reacting The role of meditation in business and life The dangers of selling to universities (and what that taught him) Negotiating with founders who are selling their life's work Why most entrepreneurs misunderstand exits and valuations The holding company model and why it's different from private equity How to minimize regret when selling a business Finding the right cofounder and what to look for beyond skills The importance of discomfort in building a meaningful life Why you become the average of the five people closest to you Seeking serendipity and building networks through curiosity

    1h 38m
  6. Rand Fishkin on Escaping Status Anxiety, Rebuilding Identity, and Building a Business That Doesn't Break You

    08/14/2025

    Rand Fishkin on Escaping Status Anxiety, Rebuilding Identity, and Building a Business That Doesn't Break You

    THE SHOW What happens when you build the company of your dreams, only to realize the dream came with tradeoffs you didn't see coming? In this candid conversation, Rand Fishkin — cofounder of Moz and SparkToro — shares the pivotal moments that shaped his career: turning a $39 side experiment into a multimillion-dollar SaaS, raising venture capital for the wrong reasons, walking away from a $40M acquisition offer, and rebuilding his identity after leaving the company he founded. Along the way, Rand unpacks the philosophy he lives by now: designing work around the life you want, not the other way around. You'll learn why audience-first growth changes everything, how "dark social" can reshape your marketing strategy, and why the best companies aren't built on hustle, but on thoughtful design. If you've ever wrestled with status anxiety, questioned the pace you're working at, or wondered what it would look like to run a business without burning yourself out, this episode will give you fresh perspectives and actionable ideas for building something that lasts — without losing yourself in the process. BEHIND HIS BRILLIANCE: Empathy TOPICS COVERED  ·  Status is a poor reason to raise capital – chasing external validation through VC can distort decision-making and undermine founder well-being. ·  Audience-first beats product-first – building trust and reach before launching a product creates built-in marketing and faster adoption. ·  Design trumps grind – thoughtful business and life design leads to better decisions, fewer hours, and more sustainable success than relentless hustle. ·  Identity can't be tied to one venture – detaching self-worth from your company enables resilience when endings or pivots come. ·  Opportunity cost is real – turning down an offer (even for the "right" reasons at the time) can shape the trajectory of both the business and your personal life. ·  Measure what matters, not what's easy – "dark social" means a lot of word-of-mouth and share-driven traffic won't show up in analytics the way you expect. ·  Life design is part of business design – integrating personal goals, health, and relationships into work choices leads to richer, more fulfilling outcomes. And much more!  Get the Show Notes here.

    1h 28m
  7. 257 Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant on Reinventing Yourself When the Life You Built Stops Working

    08/07/2025

    257 Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant on Reinventing Yourself When the Life You Built Stops Working

    Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant is a wildlife ecologist, storyteller, and nature show host whose path to success defies every traditional metric of merit. In this candid conversation, Rae shares how she went from struggling in math and science classes to earning a PhD and becoming a leading voice in wildlife conservation. We explore the pivotal role that belief, representation, and access played in shaping her journey from her first exposure to nature through television, to a transformative study abroad trip to Kenya, to an unexpected pivot from lions to black bears. Rae also opens up about hitting emotional rock bottom in her 30s, the identity crisis that followed, and how she rebuilt her life with honesty, humility, and hope. This episode is a testament to what's possible when we follow our passion, even when our performance or our path doesn't fit the mold. Behind her brilliance:  Taking a non-traditional approach TOPICS COVERED:  Why passion trumps performance - How to pursue your calling even when traditional metrics suggest you're "not qualified" The representation breakthrough - Why seeing yourself reflected in expertise positions transforms what feels possible Navigating productive discomfort - How to embrace stretching experiences that feel uncomfortable but lead to growth Identity crisis as catalyst - Using rock bottom moments as launching pads for authentic reinvention The marriage blueprint trap - Why relationships fail when one person brings a pre-drawn life plan instead of co-creating Accountability without excuses - The liberation that comes from owning your choices and their consequences Nontraditional paths to traditional success - How to thrive by refusing to fit conventional molds while still achieving recognized accomplishments Environmental justice reframed - Why urban communities often care more about environmental issues than rural ones (despite stereotypes) The privilege of starting over - Understanding what safety nets make radical life changes possible Choosing authenticity over expectations - The courage required to disappoint others in service of being true to yourself

    1h 31m
  8. Jodi Wellman on the Mortality Math That Puts Your Life in Perspective

    07/31/2025

    Jodi Wellman on the Mortality Math That Puts Your Life in Perspective

    THE SHOW Most of us are running on autopilot, checking boxes, chasing goals, and pushing toward some imagined finish line without stopping to ask if this is how we really want to spend our lives. In this conversation, Jodi Wellman, author of You Only Die Once and founder of the 4,000 Mondays framework, makes the case for using mortality as a tool, not a threat. She shares why contemplating the end of life can snap us out of numb routines and guide us toward choices that create more vitality, meaning, and joy right now. We talk about why achievement can feel hollow, how to spot the "dead zones" in your life, and the surprising power of small changes to make life feel bigger. Whether you have been wondering if there is more to life than your to do list or you just want to feel more alive in your everyday routines, this conversation is a reminder that your Mondays are numbered so make them count. Behind her brilliance: Love and the Grim Reaper    TOPICS COVERED ·  Mortality as Motivation: Facing the reality of death as a way to live more fully, not morbidly. ·  4,000 Mondays Concept: Using your finite number of Mondays as a framing device to clarify what matters. ·  Vitality + Meaning = Fulfillment: Living wider (fun, novelty, aliveness) and deeper (purpose, connection). ·  The Hedonic Treadmill: The idea that high achievers constantly move the goalpost and lose perspective on satisfaction. ·  Experimentation as a Way of Life: "You don't have to detonate, you can dabble." ·  Regret Minimization Framework: Inspired by Jeff Bezos and reframed here as: "What would you regret not doing?" ·  Role of Rituals and Values: Structuring life around recurring rituals and clearly defined personal values. ·  Self-Compassion and Inner Talk: The importance of being kind to yourself in the pursuit of growth. ·  Redefining Success and Retirement: Moving from performance-based identities to interest-based living. ·  Comparison and Individual Journeys: Why your life design has to be uniquely yours, and how social media distorts that.

    1h 30m
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Behind the Brilliance is the go to podcast for the intellectually curious and relentlessly ambitious. The show features weekly long form interviews with innovative and culture-shaping leaders in art, culture, technology, business, lifestyle, and personal development along with Lisa's inspiring and funny advice on life, creativity, and entrepreneurship.

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  • Creator
    Lisa Nicole Bell
  • Years Active
    2014 - 2026
  • Episodes
    267
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © 2025 Emerald Media. All Rights Reserved.
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    Behind the Brilliance

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