Behind the Build

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Construction is more than what shows up on the drawings. Hosted by Clearstory founder and CEO Cameron Page, Behind the Build goes inside the real stories, decisions, and trade-offs that shape modern construction. Through candid conversations with builders, GCs, subs, and construction tech leaders, the show explores what actually happens behind the scenes. No fluff. Just real conversations from the people who build.

Episodes

  1. 10h ago

    The Build vs. Buy Playbook from NOVO Construction

    About This EpisodeMost general contractors are consumers of construction technology. NOVO Construction is something different -- a Bay Area commercial GC that has built its own internal software for 15 years, while also being one of the most deliberate buyers of outside tools in the industry. In this episode, Cameron sits down with Colin Stoner, Chief Innovation Officer at NOVO, to unpack how a large commercial GC actually decides what to build, what to buy, and what to leave alone. From partnering with early-stage startups, Colin's framework is part product manager, part VC, and entirely practical. What You'll LearnThe "wheel and spokes" model NOVO uses to decide what to build internally vs. buy from a partnerWhy NOVO passed on buying large scale platforms and what the "60% solution at 100% of the cost" calculation actually looks likeWhat makes a construction tech partnership work and what founders get wrong in the first five minutesHow AI changed the build vs. buy math by collapsing the cost of an MVP from months to minutesWhy Colin tracks token spend as an adoption indicator, not a cost to controlWhat Colin hopes early-stage founders ask before they pitch Episode Timestamps0:00 Colin's background and how he landed at NOVO7:00 NOVO's growth and what that ride looked like from the inside12:00 Why NOVO built Sentinel and what problem it was actually solving17:30 The buy vs. build framework: what stays in-house, what gets bought23:00 What NOVO looks for in a technology partner and how early-stage pilots actually work29:00 How AI changed the economics of building internally36:00 What NOVO is working on now: knowledge graphs, drawing parsing, and Conduit42:00 Humanoid robots, context windows, and where the industry is headed50:00 What Colin tells founders who want to sell to GCs55:00 What Colin hopes never changes in construction and what needs to Key TakeawaysBuild what only you can build. NOVO built Sentinel because the market couldn't give them what they needed at the time. That calculus is always live -- when a partner does something better, you buy. Point solutions beat platforms when they're genuinely better. The compliment is in the specificity. If a vendor understands the problem deeper than NOVO ever would internally, that's the buy. The pilot is mutual due diligence. Colin doesn't just evaluate software -- he evaluates founders. Can they think on their feet? Do they know what an RFI actually is and why it exists? The product is part of the bet. The team is most of it. AI collapsed the cost of being wrong. When an MVP took four months, you held on to bad ideas too long. When it takes 30 minutes, throwing something away is just part of the process. That changes what's worth trying. Token spend is a signal, not a line item. Colin's framing for leadership: if NOVO is spending significant money on tokens, that means the team is driving efficiency. Measure it like output, not overhead. The relationship layer doesn't get automated. Whatever AI handles next, Colin's hope is that the human side of construction -- trade relationships, trust, reputation -- gets protected. The bet is that AI handles the grind and the people handle everything that actually matters.

    50 min
  2. From $20M to $600M: Ryan Wall, CEO, Silicon Valley Mechanical

    Mar 26

    From $20M to $600M: Ryan Wall, CEO, Silicon Valley Mechanical

    About This EpisodeMost contractors wait for an ownership opportunity to come to them. Ryan Wall went and found one. In this episode, the CEO of Silicon Valley Mechanical breaks down how he and two partners acquired a $20M contractor in 2014 and built it into a $600M business with over 1,000 employees, and what he'd tell anyone in construction who wants to do the same. Ryan and Clearstory Founder and CEO Cameron Page cover the acquisition structure, the culture shifts that made SVM what it is today, and how the AI and data center boom is reshaping mechanical contracting from the ground up. What You'll LearnHow three PMs quietly acquired SVM without tipping off the marketWhy buying an existing company beat starting from scratchHow SVM broke down the office/field divide and made it a competitive advantageWhere AI is delivering results in mechanical contracting, and where it fell flatWhat PMs should be doing now to position themselves for ownershipTimestamps0:00 Ryan's path into mechanical contracting9:50 The SVM acquisition: how the deal came together22:41 From project manager to CEO: imposter syndrome and leadership28:39 Why field experience matters in construction leadership35:23 Early AI adoption: what worked and what flopped40:51 How AI is changing construction processes on the ground46:47 Career advice for PMs with an entrepreneurial spirit53:38 The future of construction and AIKey TakeawaysBuy, don't build from zero. Doubling $20M is easier than doubling nothing.Succession gaps are opportunity. Healthy business, no exit plan. More common than you think.Communication is the job. Over-communicate, especially when things go wrong.Break down the wall. Office and field on the same side. It changes everything.AI improves process, it doesn't replace people. Yet.Train your replacement. Every transition opens a door for someone below.

    50 min

  3. Mar 15

    Trailer

    This is Behind the Build — a podcast hosted by Clearstory founder and CEO Cameron Page. Each episode goes inside the real stories shaping modern construction, with candid conversations with builders, GCs, subcontractors, and construction tech leaders about the decisions, trade-offs, and realities that almost never happen in public. Hit subscribe so you don't miss an episode.

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Construction is more than what shows up on the drawings. Hosted by Clearstory founder and CEO Cameron Page, Behind the Build goes inside the real stories, decisions, and trade-offs that shape modern construction. Through candid conversations with builders, GCs, subs, and construction tech leaders, the show explores what actually happens behind the scenes. No fluff. Just real conversations from the people who build.

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    Clearstory
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  • Episodes
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