Behind The Product

Zac Darnell - SEP
Behind The Product

Behind The Product takes a behind-the-scenes look at how software products are made. From the people who innovate, to the makers who use their craft, each influencing products in different ways. We will put the spotlight on the practices that guide decision-makers to solve some of the toughest challenges and the people who make it happen. For more information visit www.sep.com/podcast.

  1. APR 15

    Positioning with April Dunford

    In this episode, we sit down with April Dunford, founder of Ambient Strategy and author of the books "Sales Pitch" and "Obviously Awesome". She is most known for her expertise in market positioning, having personally launched 16 products and influenced many others. Our conversation covers several key insights from Dunford's work: The disconnect between how marketing and sales teams communicate product value, with marketing focused on perfect messaging while sales reverts to feature-dumping demos.The importance of crafting a sales pitch that tells a compelling story about why a customer should choose your product over competitors, rather than just listing product capabilities.Her experience launching her own positioning-focused podcast, where she was able to dive deeper into niche positioning topics than is typically possible as a guest on other shows.This episode offers valuable lessons for anyone involved in product marketing, sales, or positioning - whether at a tech company or any other type of business. Dunford's insights provide a framework for crafting more effective, customer-centric sales and marketing narratives. A big thank you to our guest co-host, Josh Colter. Josh is the CEO of Cardboardit and has great experience in marketing and positioning. We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to podcast@sep.com to share your feedback on this show. You can find more information about this podcast at sep.com/podcast and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening!

    47 min
  2. FEB 15

    Oji & Ezinne Udezue: Customer Listening - The Shift from Projects to Enduring Products

    This episode features a dynamic conversation with Oji and Ezinne Udezue, both Chief Product Officers at Typeform and WP Engine, respectively. The Udezue’s draw from their extensive experience as product leaders to discuss the concept of customer listening and its role in full stack product management. They emphasize the shift from treating product releases as fixed-time projects to ongoing products that require continuous tracking, support, and market engagement. The discussion centers on the importance of balancing business demands with customer delight and the need to build a "listening machine" within organizations to continuously gather and integrate customer feedback into the product development process. Our conversation provides practical insights for product leaders on how to effectively listen to customers, drive product improvement, and enhance customer retention. A few highlights: Transition from Project to Product: The modern market expects products to be enduring concerns, rather than fixed-time projects. This shift necessitates continuous tracking, support, and market engagement for products, impacting the brand and its market approach.Importance of Customer Listening: Oji and Ezinne emphasize the importance of listening to customers to refine products and achieve customer delight. They argue that delight leads to customer loyalty and retention, which are crucial for profitable growth. They also distinguish between listening (tuning into existing feedback channels) and discovery (finding new opportunities).Building a Listening Machine: Product leaders should create systems within their organizations to continuously listen to customers and inform the product roadmap. This process involves collecting customer feedback, triaging it, and integrating it into the product development process. Our guests describe this as building a "listening machine" that operates continuously, much like a circulatory system in a body. We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to podcast@sep.com to share your feedback on this show. You can find more information about this podcast at sep.com/podcast and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening!

    42 min

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Behind The Product takes a behind-the-scenes look at how software products are made. From the people who innovate, to the makers who use their craft, each influencing products in different ways. We will put the spotlight on the practices that guide decision-makers to solve some of the toughest challenges and the people who make it happen. For more information visit www.sep.com/podcast.

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