Benevolent Disruptors

BNVT Capital

"Benevolent Disruptors” is a podcast series, co-hosted by the Managing Partners of BNVT Capital, Rory Mounsey-Heysham and Chris Corbishley. In this series we interview leading founders, investors, allocators, and regulators on the role of business and technology in society. As individuals, business and governments grapple with the implications of a rapidly evolving technological landscape, Benevolent Disruptors provides a more optimistic view on how technology changes lives. We learn from the inspirational stories of those building big businesses tackling our most pressing challenges.

Episodes

  1. Episode 11 | Michiel Scheffer, President of the Board, European Innovation Council

    MAY 12

    Episode 11 | Michiel Scheffer, President of the Board, European Innovation Council

    In this episode of the Benevolent Disruptors Interview Series, we welcome Michiel Scheffer, President of the Board at the European Innovation Council (EIC). The EIC is the European Union's flagship innovation body, deploying a €1.4 billion annual budget across the continent's most daring technology investments, from quantum computing and AI to biorefinery and fusion.  A founder, innovation investor, minister, professor, and author of over 100 publications, Michiel has been nominated as the best regional politician in the Netherlands and has seen Europe's innovation landscape from almost every possible angle. Under his leadership, the EIC supports beneficiaries across 27 EU member states plus Norway, Switzerland, the UK, and Israel, with an underlying portfolio of more than 800 companies.  The conversation explores why Europe punches above its weight in producing unicorn founders but struggles to capture their scaled value, how fragmentation across 27 countries creates both barriers and opportunities, and why the next decade of AI, quantum, and defence tech could be Europe's to lose… or to win.  Michiel unpacks the EIC's new €5 billion scale-up fund, why European capital markets urgently need reform, and how the continent's industrial backbone, research translation, and dual-use defence capabilities position it for a new era of "Benevolent Disruption."  Key Takeaways:  Why 24% of the world's unicorn founders are European yet only 6% of global unicorn enterprise value is captured in Europe (and why scaling, not starting, is Europe's real challenge) How the EIC's €5 billion scale-up fund, built alongside pension funds, foundations, and insurers, is designed to plug Europe's late-stage capital gap Why Europeans invest €800 billion a year into the US while their own start-ups remain under-capitalised, and what a Capital Savings Union could unlock. How Europe is quietly leading in industrial AI, health diagnostics AI, and causal (rather than purely correlational) model design, with companies in fusion, predictive maintenance, and medical imaging already reshaping productivity Why the EIC's three-founder requirement (CTO, seasoned CEO, and CFO) reflects a distinctly European philosophy of collective, scale-ready team building from day one How Ukraine has become Europe's most important live learning environment for dual-use defence technology, with 40+ EIC-funded projects drawing lessons for the continent's strategic autonomy Why quantum companies like IQM (Finland) and Pascal (France) heading to NASDAQ signal both progress and a lingering gap in European capital market depth Michiel’s conviction that entrepreneurs, academics, and politicians must stop judging each other and start listening: the foundation of real, long-term innovation policy 👉 Learn more at https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    23 min
  2. Episode 10 | David Clark, CIO, VenCap International plc

    APR 14

    Episode 10 | David Clark, CIO, VenCap International plc

    In this episode of the Benevolent Disruptors Interview Series, we welcome David Clark, CIO of VenCap International plc. Founded in 1987, VenCap is one of the longest-standing and most successful fund-of-funds investment firms in Venture Capital.      Having committed over $3 billion across 500+ VC funds, David reflects on how VenCap evolved from a traditional LP into a data-driven, conviction-led platform, focused on backing the top 5% of venture managers: the "unicorn hunters".    Today, their underlying portfolio reads like a who's who of the defining companies of our era, including groundbreaking companies like OpenAI, Spotify, NVIDIA and Stripe.  The conversation explores why a small fraction of companies continue to generate the bulk of venture returns, how AI is poised to concentrate the power law even further, and what it means for LPs trying to position themselves on the right side of that divide.    David unpacks VenCap's core manager thesis, why operating from Oxford rather than Silicon Valley has been a strategic advantage, and how the firm's collaboration with BNVT Capital on our ‘Benevolent Disruption’ investment thesis is reshaping the conversation around “impact” in venture.    Key Takeaways:  Why roughly 30 companies a year account for over 50% of all value generated by the global VC industry and how AI could make that concentration even more extreme How VenCap's shift to a data-driven "core manager" strategy in the mid-2000s dramatically improved performance while virtually eliminating left-tail risk David's take on whether mega-fund sizes are sustainable and how full-stack AI-native companies are becoming the vertical, not just selling software  What VenCap learned from 30+ years of manager selection: that LPs aren't the heroes, founders are  Why being based in Oxford, outside the Silicon Valley bubble, insulates VenCap from hype cycles and supports more rational, long-term allocation decisions How VenCap's collaboration with BNVT emerged from a shared belief that traditional ESG reporting doesn't fit the reality of early-stage venture 👉 Learn more at https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    21 min
  3. Episode 9 | Sam Atkinson, CEO and Co-Founder of Swap

    MAR 25

    Episode 9 | Sam Atkinson, CEO and Co-Founder of Swap

    In this episode, Chris speaks with Sam Atkinson, CEO and Co-Founder of Swap: one of BNVT Capital's earliest investments and now a global agentic e-commerce platform powering over 1,000 brands like Paul Smith, Cubitts and Sirplus. Sam reflects on building Swap from a small London team focused on returns management into a full operating system for cross-border commerce, and why the company's boldest chapter is just beginning.  The conversation explores how solving one of the hardest problems in e-commerce cross-border returns gave Swap the foundation to expand into payments, shipping, customs, demand forecasting, and tax compliance. Sam unpacks the launch of Swap's Agentic Storefront, why Shopify remains a partner even as Swap carves out its own lane, and what it took to scale a UK-born platform into a US-led growth story:  with $120M in projected annualized revenue and a $100M Series C from Iconic and DST to fuel what comes next.  Key Takeaways:  How starting with cross-border returns gave Swap the credibility and infrastructure to build a full e-commerce operating system What the Agentic Storefront is, why it's unlike anything else on the market, and how it opens up an entirely new customer base in North America Why Swap views Shopify as a long-term partner — and where the two diverge on the front-end experience How Sam's experience running his own e-commerce brand and working at McKinsey and Swedish neobank Juni shaped Swap's product vision What it took to scale from the UK to a global operation with nearly 50% of revenue now in the US Why hiring close friends as early employees was one of Sam's best decisions — and how his wife Jean keeps him grounded through it all Sam's take on the benevolent vs. disruptor question: "We need to do the disrupting first to be able to be benevolent" 👉 Learn more at https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    17 min
  4. Episode 8 | Nigel Morris, Co-Founder Capital One & Managing Partner of QED Investors

    MAR 10

    Episode 8 | Nigel Morris, Co-Founder Capital One & Managing Partner of QED Investors

    In this episode, Rory Mounsey-Heysham speaks with Nigel Morris, Managing Partner at QED Investors and co-founder of Capital One. Nigel reflects on four decades in financial services, his ambition to impact over one billion people through fintech, and why he believes innovation in finance is still in its early innings. The conversation explores how Capital One democratized credit through risk-based pricing, why fintech continues to take share from incumbents, and where the next decade of disruption may come from across stablecoins, open banking, AI, and digital-native banking models. Nigel also shares hard-won lessons from building QED into one of the world’s leading fintech venture firms. Key Takeaways Why Nigel’s goal to impact one billion lives shapes his investment philosophyHow Capital One used data and risk-based pricing to expand access to creditWhy fintech is still a small share of a $14 trillion market and growing faster than incumbentsWhere fintech already dominates, from remittances to earned wage access and neo-banksHow stablecoins and open banking could reshape deposits and cross-border paymentsWhy venture capital is about brand, power-law outcomes, and backing generational founders 👉 Subscribe to Benevolent Disruptors for more conversations with founders building enduring companies by solving deep systemic problems 👉 Learn more at https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    28 min
  5. Episode 7 | Andrew L. Cohen, Executive Chairman of J.P. Morgan Global Private Bank

    FEB 5

    Episode 7 | Andrew L. Cohen, Executive Chairman of J.P. Morgan Global Private Bank

    In this episode, Rory speaks with Andrew L. Cohen, Executive Chairman of J.P. Morgan’s Global Private Bank and leader of 23 Wall, J.P. Morgan’s Institutional Wealth Management practice serving many of the world’s most influential families and institutions. Drawing on insights from J.P. Morgan’s Principals Report and decades at the heart of global finance, Andrew offers a rare perspective on how capital is allocated, how risk is understood, and how the world’s most powerful decision-makers think about the future. The conversation explores why geopolitics has become the defining risk for global families, the accelerating shift from public to private markets, and the rise of direct investing with governance involvement. Rory and Andrew also unpack the realities of AI adoption beyond the hype, the traits that distinguish resilient multi-generational families, the growing role of sport as an asset class, and why benevolent capital and disruption must work together to drive long-term progress in an increasingly complex world. Key Takeaways How global families are using capital to shape markets, not just access themWhy geopolitics is now the single biggest risk facing wealthy familiesWhat the shift from public to private markets means for founders and investorsWhy direct investing with governance involvement is acceleratingHow multi-generational operating experience adds unique value to growth companiesWhere AI adoption is creating real advantage and where it still lagsWhat differentiates resilient multi-generational familiesWhy governance, communication, and shared values matter as complexity growsHow sports has become a fast-growing global asset classWhy innovation is increasingly global, not geographically confinedHow benevolence and disruption can coexist as forces for good👉 Subscribe to Benevolent Disruptors for more conversations with founders, investors, and thinkers turning big problems into better business. 👉 Check out more about Benevolent Disruption here: https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    22 min
  6. Episode 6 | Jodok Betschart, Co-Founder of Cloover

    JAN 21

    Episode 6 | Jodok Betschart, Co-Founder of Cloover

    In this episode, Chris Corbishley speaks with Jodok Betschart, co-founder and CEO of Cloover, one of BNVT Capital’s earliest investments. Cloover has announced a $1.2B financing commitment to scale a new kind of software-led renewable energy infrastructure across Europe. The conversation covers Cloover’s breakout year, including around 8x revenue growth while remaining profitable, and why energy independence is becoming a critical consumer need as grids strain and household costs rise. Jodok explains Cloover’s mission to connect 1 billion people to renewable energy by making installations accessible through simple monthly payments and by empowering local SME installers, not replacing them. Chris and Jodok explore why climate and energy investing is regaining momentum, why many climate tech startups fail when software-style expectations collide with physical infrastructure, and how Cloover’s asset-light platform model reduces risk while accelerating adoption. Key Takeaways Why Cloover’s mission is energy independence at mass-market affordabilityHow local installers sit at the centre of the energy transitionWhat has shifted to unlock more institutional capital for clean energy in EuropeWhy many climate tech startups fail when venture logic meets infrastructure realityHow an asset-light platform model enables faster, lower-risk scalingWhy culture, commitment, and execution matter as much as technology👉 Subscribe to Benevolent Disruptors for more conversations with founders building enduring companies by solving deep systemic problems 👉 Learn more at https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    24 min
  7. Episode 5 | Thomas Wolf, Co-Founder of Hugging Face

    12/08/2025

    Episode 5 | Thomas Wolf, Co-Founder of Hugging Face

    In this episode, Chris Corbishley speaks with Thomas Wolf, co-founder and Chief Science Officer of Hugging Face, the open-source AI platform now powering millions of models and researchers worldwide. Thomas shares the unlikely origins of the company from a teen chatbot to the central hub of the global machine learning community sparked by a research codebase for BERT and GPT-2 that unexpectedly went viral and reshaped the company’s trajectory. He discusses how Hugging Face now incubates internal “mini-startups” across open science, small on-device models, robotics and AI for science, and how this mirrors his work angel-investing in over 100 AI companies. The conversation explores the cultural differences between European and US founders, the importance of mission and openness, the limitations of today’s large language models, and why Thomas believes multiple research paths, not just those pursued by frontier labs, are essential for the field’s long-term progress. Key Takeaways How Hugging Face evolved from a teen chatbot into the backbone of the global open-source AI ecosystemWhy an open-sourced research codebase for BERT and GPT-2 became the catalyst for a full company pivotHow Hugging Face incubates internal “startups” such as BigScience, small on-device models, robotics, and AI for scienceWhy Thomas believes mission, culture, and long-term orientation are essential and how they emerged over time rather than being predeterminedHow European founders can overcome self-censorship and think bigger, and why Thomas encourages a more American-style approach to ambitionWhy he sees AI as a dual-use technology, the limitations of current LLMs, and the importance of multiple research paths beyond today’s frontier labsHow regulatory cycles swing between under- and over-correction, and why this matters for innovatorsWhere Thomas sits on the spectrum between benevolent and disruptor—and how that shapes his work today👉 Subscribe to Benevolent Disruptors for more conversations with the founders and thinkers turning big problems into better business. 👉 Check out more about Benevolent Disruption here: https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    43 min
  8. Episode 4 | Colin le Duc, Founding Partner of Generation Investment Management

    11/25/2025

    Episode 4 | Colin le Duc, Founding Partner of Generation Investment Management

    In this episode, Rory Mounsey-Heysham speaks with Colin le Duc, Co-Founder and Partner at Generation Investment Management,  the sustainability-focused investment firm created alongside former US Vice President Al Gore and David Blood of Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Generation was founded on a bold premise: that sustainability and long-term financial performance reinforce each other rather than compete. Two decades later, the firm manages more than $40 billion and has become one of the most respected voices in mission-driven investing. Colin shares Generation’s origin story, the serendipitous alignment that brought its founders together, and how the firm set out to integrate sustainability into every stage of investing. He reflects on building both public and private market strategies, the moments of luck and timing that accelerated their success, and what it means to stay mission-driven while scaling a global investment platform. The pair also discuss the advantages mission-driven companies have, why founders with genuine purpose outperform, and how political headwinds shape (and fail to derail) climate and sustainability investing. Colin explains why resilient, long-term fundamentals still guide Generation’s approach and why this is an unusually compelling time to invest in sustainable solutions. Key Takeaways How Generation Investment Management was founded on integrating sustainability into capital marketsWhy timing, luck, and early market conditions accelerated their first decadeHow mission and investment performance reinforce each other, not competeWhy sustainability became a source of alpha long before the market recognised itHow being mission-driven helps attract the best entrepreneurs, teams, and shareholdersWhy short-term political shifts don’t change long-term sustainable investing fundamentalsHow climate and sustainability cycles create opportunities for specialist investorsWhy Generation focuses on returning capital, not just raising it👉 Subscribe to Benevolent Disruptors for more conversations with the founders and thinkers turning big problems into better business. 👉 Checkout more about Benevolent Disruption here https://www.benevolentdisruptors.com/

    16 min
  9. Episode 3 | Matthew Oppenheimer, Co-Founder of Remitly

    11/10/2025

    Episode 3 | Matthew Oppenheimer, Co-Founder of Remitly

    In this episode, Chris Corbishley speaks with Matt Oppenheimer, Co-Founder and CEO of Remitly - the global payments company reshaping how money moves across borders. Matt shares how his time in Kenya sparked the idea for Remitly and how the company grew from a small startup in Seattle into a platform now trusted by millions. What began as a response to an unfair, outdated system of money transfers became a mission to make financial services more affordable, transparent, and human. The pair talk about the highs and lows of entrepreneurship from the early “nerve-sited” days to running a listed company and what it means to stay mission-driven while scaling globally. Matt also reflects on why purpose has been Remitly’s biggest advantage, how regulation can build trust, and why AI and stablecoins could open up the next chapter of financial inclusion. Key Takeaways How a frustrating personal experience in Kenya inspired Remitly’s founding ideaThe emotional rollercoaster of building a fintech from scratchWhy being “too mission-driven” once scared investors, and why that’s now a strengthHow purpose creates resilience, attracts great teams, and builds better businessesWhat really allowed Remitly to challenge giants like Western UnionWhy regulation can be a competitive advantage, not a roadblockThe opportunities AI and stablecoins bring to global financeMatt’s vision for serving the 300 million people still left out of fair financial systems👉 Subscribe to Benevolent Disruptors for more conversations with the founders and thinkers turning big problems into better business.

    18 min
  10. Episode 2 | Greg Jackson, Founder & CEO of Octopus Energy

    11/06/2025

    Episode 2 | Greg Jackson, Founder & CEO of Octopus Energy

    To open this conversation, Rory Mounsey-Heysham sits down with Greg Jackson - founder and CEO of Octopus Energy - one of Europe’s most successful tech companies and a driving force in the energy transition. Greg shares how Octopus grew from humble beginnings into a global energy and technology leader, serving millions of customers and managing billions in renewable assets. From challenging incumbents to redefining regulation, Greg embodies the spirit of “benevolent disruption”: building big businesses that make the world better. In this wide-ranging discussion, Greg reflects on his journey from Halifax to leading a multi-billion-dollar company, the philosophy behind Kraken (Octopus’s proprietary tech platform), the importance of capital and agility, and why he believes clean energy must be cheap, fast, and fair. Key Takeaways Energy as a tech problem: Octopus was founded on the belief that modern software could transform an outdated, inefficient energy industry.Capital and resilience: Greg emphasizes raising funds before you need them - “no one ever went bust because they had too much cash.”Agility as a superpower: Proprietary technology allows Octopus to innovate faster and outpace incumbents in integrating renewables and new products.Purpose with pragmatism: Energy should be fairer, cheaper, cleaner but it must also deliver returns to scale impact.Regulation reform: Greg advocates for “refactoring” outdated regulation halving timelines and simplifying systems to unlock innovation.Energy transition politics: Clean energy must be reframed as a cost-reducing, prosperity-driving movement, not a cultural wedge issue.The benevolent disruptor mindset: “The Good Samaritan couldn’t have helped anyone if he didn’t have the cash.” Scale and success are prerequisites for meaningful good.

    22 min

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"Benevolent Disruptors” is a podcast series, co-hosted by the Managing Partners of BNVT Capital, Rory Mounsey-Heysham and Chris Corbishley. In this series we interview leading founders, investors, allocators, and regulators on the role of business and technology in society. As individuals, business and governments grapple with the implications of a rapidly evolving technological landscape, Benevolent Disruptors provides a more optimistic view on how technology changes lives. We learn from the inspirational stories of those building big businesses tackling our most pressing challenges.