Between Two Fermenters

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Ever wondered what life is really like in the craft beer industry? Whether you're a seasoned connoisseur, a homebrewing enthusiast, into Ontario beer history, or just someone who enjoys some good ol' breezy beer banter, Between Two Fermenters is your go-to deep dive for all things beer from an insider perspective. So, grab a #FreshGLB, kick back, and join us as we share stories, spill the beans on new releases and brewery updates, and chat with other industry folk about the world of making (and drinking) beer.

  1. 17h ago

    Brandon Judd: German Techniques, North American Beers

    Everyone else is dry-hopping the heck out of everything. Brandon Judd is still asking whether it's drinkable. Troy sits down with Brandon Judd, Brewmaster at Avling Brewery - Toronto's brewery, restaurant, and rooftop farm all under one roof in Leslieville. Brandon's path to beer ran through freelance journalism, restaurant bartending, and Toronto's early craft scene at Indie AleHouse before a personal-challenge move to VLB Berlin, one of the world's most respected brewing institutions. From there it was off to Godspeed Brewery for their startup before finally landing at a new brewery, Avling, in 2018. He's spent seven years at Avling, building traditional lagers, barrel-aged mixed fermentation beers, and rooftop-grown ingredients like marigolds and pineapple sage into beers designed to work as hard at the dinner table as they do on their own.German techniques, North American beers - and a brewer still chasing the beer he hasn't made yet.What's in this episode: The road from freelance journalism and Indie AleHouse to VLB Berlin, and why “tradition is a good guide, but it shouldn't be a religion”What German brewing school really changed: less an engineering degree, more a new way of solving problemsAssisting in Godspeed's beer program from poured concrete up, and the brew day that convinced he could go out on his ownAvling's rooftop farm: brewing with marigolds and pineapple sage, and the limits of “100% Ontario”A year into new ownership at Avling, and a deep dive on his beersRapid Fire: the business decision he'd redo, his favourite beer he's ever brewed, and what he's still trying to prove to himself after all these yearsThank you for tuning into the #BetweenTwoFermenters podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on whichever platform you get your podcasts at and be sure to follow GreatLakesBeer on all social channels. greatlakesbeer.com. Supporting local never tasted soooo good!Hosted by Troy Burtch, Between Two Fermenters, a podcast brought to you by Toronto's Great Lakes Brewery where craft beer and conversation collide straight from the tanks to your ears.

    Brandon Judd: German Techniques, North American Beers

  2. Sep 1

    Peter Bulut

    From the Between Two Fermenters Archives, one of our favourites.... Peter Bulut first appeared on Episode 1, helping set the tone for this show dedicated to preserving the stories, voices, struggles, and triumphs of the Canadian craft beer industry. Now he’s back for a deep, unscripted conversation about nearly four decades in beer, leadership, family legacy, hard lessons, and the relentless spirit that built GLB into Ontario’s fiercely independent local brewery.

  3. Aug 25

    Catherine Oppedisano

    From the Between Two Fermenters Archives, one of our favourites.... In this episode of Between Two Fermenters, host Troy Burtch is joined by the dynamic Catherine Oppedisano, VP of Marketing at Steam Whistle Brewing. From a memorable one-night shift with Great Lakes Brewery in 2012 to spearheading major brand revivals across Ontario’s craft beer landscape, Catherine shares her inspiring journey through the industry. Catherine reflects on her early beer days, her pivotal introductory role in beer at Flying Monkeys, educational years at Mill Street, the huge growth experienced at Collective Arts, and now the fun she’s having at Steam Whistle. She dives into lessons learned while navigating takeovers, driving innovation, creating memorable campaigns, and leading one of the country’s most recognizable beer brands back to its roots. Get ready for a fun, fast-paced conversation full of branding gold, beer nostalgia, and candid insights from one of Ontario’s most respected marketing minds.

  4. Aug 18

    Ron Keefe

    From the Between Two Fermenters Archives, one of our favourites.... On this episode of Between Two Fermenters, Troy Burtch is joined by someone who’s had a profound impact on his life – a mentor, pioneer, and dear friend: Ron Keefe, founder of Toronto’s family-owned Granite Brewery. If you heard Episode 15 with his daughter Mary-Beth, you’ll know how much the Keefe family means to Troy. Ron welcomed him into the world of Ontario craft beer back in 2007, answering every question with patience and generousity, and later entrusted me with his Beer Appreciation course at George Brown College. His quiet leadership, deep knowledge, and genuine kindness have shaped not just Troy’s beer journey, but the paths of countless others in the industry. In this wide-ranging and heartfelt conversation, we explore Ron’s life before the Granite, the origins of the brewery in Halifax (opened by his late brother, Kevin Keefe), and how it became a midtown Toronto institution. We talked about the joys and challenges of running a family business, what it means to build a legacy, and Ron’s role in pushing for licensing reforms that opened doors for so many Ontario brewers. We also discussed his battle with ALS and the powerful story behind Ron’s Lager. Ron may be modest, but his influence is undeniable – this is a conversation with one of Ontario’s true craft beer trailblazers.

  5. Aug 11

    ​Luc Lafontaine

    From the Between Two Fermenters Archives, one of our favourites.... “My beers are the portfolio of my life.” In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Luc ‘Bim’ Lafontaine, the mastermind behind Godspeed Brewery, a “neighbourhood brewpub with an international reputation”, located at 242 Coxwell Ave in Toronto. Bim’s reputation as a world-renowned brewer precedes him, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with industry icons like Garrett Oliver, Yvan De Baets, Jan Van Roy, Sam Calagione, and others who define brewing excellence. From his humble beginnings as a teenage homebrewer to his transformative years at Montreal’s famed Dieu Du Ciel, Bim’s journey has taken him across the globe—from perfecting his craft in Japan to building Godspeed into a showcase of Czech brewing in Ontario. Known for his meticulous approach, unwavering commitment for perfection, and innovative yet traditional styles, Bim’s influence resonates throughout the beer industry, inspiring brewers and captivating beer lovers alike.

  6. Aug 7

    Summer Beer Break

    Between Two Fermenters is taking a little summer break. We're taking the month of August off... you could say we've gone drinking... hitting up our favourite pubs around the province. While we're taking a few weeks to recharge, we're not leaving you hanging. Over the next four weeks, we'll be revisiting some of our favourite episodes from the archives. Whether it's one you missed the first time around or one worth listening to again, we hope you'll enjoy them as much as we did. Then, in September, we'll be back with an incredible lineup of brand-new episodes featuring some fantastic guests. We've already got some great conversations lined up, and we can't wait to get into the studio to record their words. Thanks again for helping make Between Two Fermenters what it has become. We're proud to be a truly Canadian beer podcast, celebrating the people, stories, and breweries that make this industry so special. Have a safe and enjoyable August, support your local breweries whenever you can, and we'll see you back here in September. Until next time, please remember to keep tippin' your glass of #FreshGLB in the right direction.

  7. Jul 14

    Carl Pratt – Riding the Waves, Beaches Brewing

    Not every brewery closure is a eulogy. Sometimes it's just a brief intermission... but rarely.  Troy sits down with Carl Pratt, Co-Founder and brewer behind Beaches Brewing Co, the brewery that spent over a decade as a fixture on Queen Street East in Toronto's Beach neighbourhood. Carl's an accidental brewer - a self-described map nerd who traded a GIS career for weekend homebrew batches, then talked himself into opening a brick-and-mortar brewery just months before COVID hit. For years, he ran nearly every role himself: brewer, GM, and everything in between.  In December 2025, after watching the numbers for over a year, Carl made the call to close the doors for good and wrote a heartfelt, unfiltered public letter to the community explaining why - one that got the craft beer world talking. But the story didn't end there: months later, Beaches Brewing reopened under a new ownership group with a new menu, a new look, and Carl still behind the kettle, brewing every batch.  What's in this episode: Carl's path from a Mississauga map nerd to a homebrewer building Beaches Brewing from scratchContract brewing, chasing the LCBO, and the reality of running every role solo for yearsOpening weeks before COVID, a landlord lockout, and the toll of doing every job at onceThe December 2025 closure and the “Peace Out Homies” letter that had the industry talkingWhat the letter really meant to those that read itBeaches Brewing's rebirth: new ownership, a French-Indian-Southeast Asian menu, and a whole new lookThank you for tuning into the #BetweenTwoFermenters podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on whichever platform you get your podcasts at and be sure to follow GreatLakesBeer on all social channels. greatlakesbeer.com. Supporting local never tasted soooo good! Hosted by Troy Burtch, Between Two Fermenters, a podcast brought to you by Toronto's Great Lakes Brewery where craft beer and conversation collide - straight from the tanks to your ears.

    Carl Pratt – Riding the Waves, Beaches Brewing

  8. Jun 30

    Erica McOustra, Perfecting Pilsner

    In a province obsessed with what's new, Erica McOustra has spent her career perfecting what already exists - and that's a much harder job than it sounds. Troy sits down with Erica McOustra, Brewmaster at Steam Whistle Brewing - the first woman to hold that title in the brewery's history. A Danforth kid who left university after first year, fell into homebrewing to save money, and never looked back. From a brew-on-premise shop to Magnotta Brewery, VLB Berlin, Amsterdam Brewing, and finally Steam Whistle in 2010 - where she worked her way from shift brewer to Brewmaster over a decade. In 2022, when Steam Whistle acquired Beau's All Natural Brewing, her role grew again: she now oversees brewing for both iconic brands, two very different philosophies under one roof. What's in this episode: How a homebrewer became one of Canada's most respected Brewmasters The philosophy of doing one thing brilliantly, and why chasing 0.1% better every day is anything but boringBeing the first female Brewmaster at Steam WhistleThe Beau's acquisition: stewarding a beloved brandWhen data and your palate disagree - which one wins?Rapid Fire: Godspeed, New Glarus, and why one shortcut gives everyone else on the floor license to take one

    Erica McOustra, Perfecting Pilsner
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Ever wondered what life is really like in the craft beer industry? Whether you're a seasoned connoisseur, a homebrewing enthusiast, into Ontario beer history, or just someone who enjoys some good ol' breezy beer banter, Between Two Fermenters is your go-to deep dive for all things beer from an insider perspective. So, grab a #FreshGLB, kick back, and join us as we share stories, spill the beans on new releases and brewery updates, and chat with other industry folk about the world of making (and drinking) beer.

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  • Creator
    Great Lakes Brewery
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    75
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Great Lakes Brewery
  • Show Website
    Between Two Fermenters

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