Beyond Carbon

Georges Dyer, IEN and Chris Ito, FFIS

The changing climate of sustainable investing

  1. Jan 20

    Scaling Climate Tech Solutions - Measuring Impact Through Avoided Emissions

    Scaling Climate Tech Solutions with Noah Miller - Measuring Impact Through Avoided Emissions Chris Ito goes one on one with Noah Miller, Co-Founder of Rho Impact, to discuss the state of developing decarbonization technologies and Rho’s approach to measuring the impact of thousands of climate tech solutions across all stages of maturity. separating the “Leaders” from the “Laggards”, analyze early performance insights, and discuss the current state of clean energy technologies. Don’t miss this opportunity to stay ahead in the evolving energy landscape. Guest Noah Miller – CAO & Founder, Rho Impact Background Noah Miller is the Co-Founder and Chief Advisory Officer at Rho Impact, a North-American Based climate advisory and software company. He has been the Corporate Finance Institute's ESG subject matter expert since 2020. Noah has held a variety of roles in the ESG space, ranging from consulting practice leader to fractional director for multiple public and private companies to a board advisor. Conversation What really counts as a climate solution? Why many impactful technologies don’t look like “climate tech” at first glance. From carbon accounting to climate impact How avoided emissions (often called Scope 4) are changing the way investors evaluate decarbonization. Measuring what scales, not just what exists Using counterfactuals and lifecycle analysis to assess impact in a future where solutions reach real adoption. Connecting climate impact to commercial value How per-unit avoided emissions link sales, market growth, and investment performance. Why demand is rising despite political noise Global regulation, LP pressure, and market forces are pushing climate solutions forward. A new lens for investors and operators alike Moving beyond ESG compliance toward scalable, investable climate outcomes.

  2. 12/17/2025

    Greenhushing, Communication, and Stakeholder Engagement for Endowments with Lane Jost

    Greenhushing, Communication, and Stakeholder Engagement for Endowments with Lane Jost In this crossover episode of The Future of Finance and Beyond Carbon, hosts Georges Dyer and Chris Ito sit down with Lane Jost, Head of Sustainability & Governance Advisory at Edelman Smithfield, for a candid conversation about the evolving ESG and sustainable investing landscape. Lane traces the arc of ESG from its “1.0” early days to today’s politically charged environment, unpacking the dynamics of greenwashing, greenhushing, regulatory risk, and the often-confusing language that shapes public perception. They examine what this moment means for endowments, asset managers, and campus stakeholders, and discuss Edelman Smithfield’s work with endowments on strategic communications strategies. Ultimately, the episode balances realism about political headwinds with optimism about market innovation, improved governance, and the long-term trajectory toward resilience and value creation. Guest Lane Jost – Head of Sustainability & Governance Advisory at Edelman Smithfield Background Lane Jost leads the Sustainability & Governance Advisory Practice at Edelman Smithfield, bringing 16 years of sustainability leadership across facilities management, financial services, and consulting. Previously, he served on PwC’s national Responsible Business Leadership team, contributing to the firm’s global net zero strategy. Lane has held senior ESG roles at Santander US and Sodexo USA, developing sustainability strategies and managing significant grant portfolios. He holds degrees from UC San Diego and Kenyon College. Conversation Green Hushing May Actually Be Beneficial - The pullback from aggressive ESG marketing forces organizations to focus on substance over rhetoric, emphasizing rigorous processes and how ESG factors genuinely drive value and risk management. ESG Terminology Will Evolve, But Core Principles Remain - While "ESG" may fade within 3-5 years, evaluating material environmental, social, and governance factors remains fundamental to investment decisions regardless of political climate or terminology changes. Communications Must Align With Portfolio Management Reality - Strategic communications should be conservative, transparent, and grounded in fiduciary stewardship. Avoid making unvalidated claims, particularly given emerging regulatory risks around greenwashing in multiple jurisdictions. Context Matters: One Size Doesn't Fit All - Appropriate approaches vary by institution. Small liberal arts colleges have more latitude for impact investing, while large state universities face greater scrutiny. Mission and stakeholder context determine strategy. Educational Institutions Have Unique Teaching Opportunities - Universities should engage students in real-world discussions about balancing financial constraints, stakeholder pressures, climate risks, and portfolio construction—providing invaluable practical experience beyond traditional classroom learning.

  3. 06/10/2024

    Will Attenborough and Leila Mimmack: Celebrity Activism Meets Climate Finance

    Will Attenborough and Leila Mimmack: Celebrity Activism Meets Climate Finance In this episode, hosts Georges Dyer and Chris Ito are joined by British actors Will Attenborough and Leila Mimmack to share their journey from the world of acting to leading impactful climate campaigns, leveraging their public platforms to drive change in sustainability and finance. Despite coming from acclaimed acting families, Will and Leila bring an unassuming yet passionate approach to raising awareness on environmental issues through their creative work. Guests Will Attenborough – Actor and Climate Activist  Leila Mimmack – Actor and Climate Activist Background Will Attenborough is a British actor renowned for stage and film roles. Inspired by Desmond Tutu's climate justice work, he played a pivotal role in Divest London’s push for fossil fuel divestment. Will spearheaded campaigns within the acting union Equity, achieving the UK's first fossil-free pension fund options for artists. He champions sustainable storytelling, leveraging celebrity influence to model climate solutions. With an acclaimed family legacy, Will uses his platform authentically to shift narratives and inspire urgent environmental action. Leila Mimmack is a British stage and screen actor driving environmental causes. Alongside Will Attenborough, she catalyzed a grassroots campaign within the Equity trade union, pioneering fossil fuel divestment and greener pension investments for artists. Leila's climate activism stems from her youth, attending rallies inspired by her teacher's rainforest lessons. Now using her creative talents, she collaborates on projects like Equity for a Green New Deal and sustainable theatre practices. Leila harnesses storytelling to reshape society's perspectives on pursuing an ecologically-conscious future. Conversation Diving into Divestment: Will and Leila recount their journeys into climate activism, starting with the Divest London campaign and efforts to push the London Pension Fund Authority away from fossil fuel investments. Union Power for Change: Hear about their strategies working within the Equity trade union to pass motions, lobby leaders, and create more sustainable investment policies for artists. The Struggle for Real Impact: The guests discuss the challenges of achieving meaningful change within complex pension funds and institutional inertia around sustainable investing. Sustainable Storytelling: Will and Leila explore how their backgrounds as actors allow them to shift narratives and model positive climate solutions through creative projects like the "Green Rider" initiative. Actors as Activists: The role of celebrity activism and harnessing the cultural influence of entertainers to inspire climate action in an authentic, relatable way. Join Chris and George for an engaging discussion on the intersections of art, activism, and finance in driving a better environmental future.

  4. 05/22/2024

    Heather Beatty: Avoided Emissions and Public Markets Climate Solutions

    Heather Beatty: Avoided Emissions and Public Markets Climate Solutions Join hosts Chris Ito and Georges Dyer as they sit down with Heather Beatty, the CEO of ScopeFour Capital, for an insightful discussion on climate solutions in public equity markets. Heather Beatty shares her journey in sustainable investing, her vision for ScopeFour Capital and the importance of focusing on scalable climate solutions beyond just renewables. Guest Heather Beatty – CEO, ScopeFour Capital Background Heather Beatty is the founder and CEO of ScopeFour Capital, an asset management firm dedicated to investing in companies that produce and scale climate solutions. With over 20 years in the institutional world, Heather is passionate about creating impactful change through strategic capital allocation. She draws inspiration from Project Drawdown and the Crane Tool to guide ScopeFour Capital's investment approach. Previously at First Eagle, she created and co-chaired the firm's first climate council. In addition to her climate-related contributions, Heather co-founded Women in Institutional Investments Network (WIIIN), a Los Angeles-based 501c3 as part of her commitment to the advancement of diversity, equity and inclusion. Conversation Scaling Climate Solutions: Heather explains how ScopeFour Capital focuses on investing in listed equities that are producing and scaling climate solutions. Beyond Renewables: Discussion on the broader market for climate solutions, including waste management, green infrastructure, and building energy efficiency. Emission Reduction Potential: Understanding how ScopeFour Capital evaluates avoided emissions and the impact of climate solutions by associating them with company revenue, R&D, and capital expenditures. Global Trends and Policy Impacts: Insight into how global policy trends and the upcoming US election cycle could impact climate investments. Navigating High Interest Rates: Addressing investor concerns about a persistent high interest rate environment and its effect on capital-intensive climate solutions. Diversity in Asset Management: Heather discusses the significance of diversity in asset management and the progress the industry has made. Tune in to gain valuable insights into investing in climate solutions, understanding the broader market dynamics, and navigating the complexities of sustainable investing.

  5. 03/27/2024

    Presidio Student Insights: A Winning Pitch from the Next Generation of Sustainable Investors

    Presidio Student Insights: A Winning Pitch from the Next Generation of Sustainable Investors In this episode, hosts Chris Ito and Georges Dyer engage in a captivating conversation with a trio of students from Presidio Graduate School, who were members of the team that emerged victorious in the IEN's 2023 Student Corporate Engagement Challenge in the Graduate category. The challenge encourages students to pitch an investment in a publicly traded company, coupled with a shareholder engagement strategy. The conversation focuses on their investment pitch for First Solar and its groundbreaking thin-film cadmium telluride technology, offering a more sustainable alternative to traditional solar panels. Guests The winning team members from Presidio Graduate School include Callie Greene, Stephanie Motta, Claire Nevels, Kate Vachon, and Lauren Novak.  In this episode, Georges and Chris talk with Callie Green, Steph Motta and Claire Nevels Highlights Explores the rationale behind an investment in First Solar Underscores the importance of engaging on diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), especially in leadership, as an area where companies can improve and unlock economic value. Illustrates the pivotal role of educational institutions in empowering students to advocate for systemic changes towards a more sustainable and just world. Showcases the proactive steps being taken by the next generation in aligning investment strategies with the urgent need for environmental and social justice.

  6. 12/05/2023

    Ian Fuller: Unlocking Diversity for Alpha and Impact Investing

    Ian Fuller: Unlocking Diversity for Alpha and Impact Investing This episode features Ian Fuller, CEO and Co-Founder of Westfuller Advisors, a minority and women-owned investment advisory firm and Outsourced CIO dedicated to impact investing. Georges and Chris talk with Ian about his personal journey from New York’s Lower East Side to Wall Street as context for Westfuller's mission to drive change through ethical investments, and challenging traditional notions of money's role in building a sustainable future. Guest Ian Fuller - CEO and Co-Founder, Westfuller Advisors Background Ian Fuller is CEO and Co-Founder of Westfuller, a Black-majority, woman- and LGBTQ-owned investment advisory firm. As specialist in evidence-driven, global wealth advisory and planning, strategic investment management, and philanthropic giving, Ian works closely with people and institutions to empower wealth with purpose. He is a believer in the promise of money and financial systems to drive a flourishing democracy and economy. Ian co-leads the firm’s commitment to support efforts building: a just and equitable society, public purpose finance for All, and community infrastructure and assets. Conversation Sheds light on how to define impact investing and how it is fundamentally different from ESG integration or responsible investing. Addresses the nuances and differences between net zero and a just transition, and the challenges around implementing an investment strategy that prioritizes both concepts. Discusses the challenges of being a minority-owned investment firm and how asset allocators investing in diverse managers are generating returns.

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The changing climate of sustainable investing