Beyond Distracted

Anthony Brown & Meagan Cooke

Beyond Distracted shares stories from neurodiverse people who succeed by embracing - not hiding -their differences. Guests talk about how they manage ADHD, navigate work and life, and what they've learned along the way. Hosted by Anthony Brown and Meagan Cooke. Find out more via: https://www.beyond-distracted.com/

Episodes

  1. Neurodivergent Leadership: Energy, AuDHD and Sustainable Success

    APR 22

    Neurodivergent Leadership: Energy, AuDHD and Sustainable Success

    In high-performing environments, there's a huge focus on performance, productivity and leadership – but far less on how we accommodate and support people whose brains work differently.     In this episode of Beyond Distracted, hosts Anthony Brown and Meagan Cooke sit down with Ani Møller – a former executive director turned ADHD and leadership coach – for a conversation that reframes what high performance can look like when it's built to work with the neurodivergent brain.     Before discovering they were autistic and ADHD (AuDHD), Ani spent years leading large teams and managing complex projects in a digital agency – while burning out, overcompensating and wondering why it all felt so hard.     They now work with neurodivergent professionals and executives to help them move from overwhelm to action and create real, sustainable change.     From recognising patterns others might miss and building strong teams to creating systems that support focus, energy and communication, Ani shares the insights they've gleaned throughout their career – plus the systems and support they've put in place to help them work and live in a way that's aligned with their needs.      In this episode, we explore:   The unique strengths neurodivergent leaders bring – from pattern recognition to logical thinking Why "easy things can feel hard and hard things can feel easy"   How creating psychological safety can lift the performance of an entire team Practical leadership tools like radical candour, empathy mapping and clear communication structures How to stop overextending and start working within your capacity Why not everyone will like you at work – and how letting go of that can be freeing The importance of energy management, personalised systems and sustainable ways of working How small, intentional adjustments can make a big difference over time This is a thoughtful conversation that offers a realistic and empowering way to think about leadership, productivity and success.     As Ani says: "I'm grateful to have a life that suits my brain, rather than trying to fit my brain into the life I think I should have."

    1h 3m
  2. Behind the Music: Masking, Hyperfocus and AuDHD

    APR 8

    Behind the Music: Masking, Hyperfocus and AuDHD

    In this episode of Beyond Distracted, hosts Anthony Brown and Meagan Cooke sit down with Nat Bartsch – a triple ARIA-nominated pianist, composer and neurodiversity advocate whose work spans classical, jazz and ambient music.   Nat often felt different, but it wasn't until her late 30s, during the pandemic, that she discovered she is both ADHD and autistic. Rather than being a confronting moment, the diagnosis brought reassurance and clarity – helping her better understand her needs, improve the support around her, and design a career that works with her brain.   Nat discusses what it means to be neurodivergent in the music industry – a space that often attracts and even rewards these traits, but doesn't always provide the structure needed to support them.   In this episode, we explore: Nat's late discovery of her AuDHD identity – and how it positively reframed her life and career The music industry as a "hotbed" of neurodivergent traits – and where it falls short on support Why masking is so common in creative industries – and how it can delay recognition The realities of running a small business as a neurodivergent person without formal business training Practical ways Nat manages her energy, health and creative work   If you're a creative person curious about how to better support your own brain, someone diagnosed later in life, or simply want to better understand AuDHD, this episode offers a hopeful, practical perspective.   As Nat says of being diagnosed: "My sense of who I am in the world was better – and for me, that was just such a wonderful thing."     Want to see Nat live? She'll be performing her neuro-affirming album, Forever Changed, live over the coming weeks: Sat 18 April at The Round, Nunawading, Melbourne: https://www.theround.com.au/natbartsch 12 to 16 July, a regional tour of NSW for Musica Viva, heading to Gunnedah, Taree and Gosford: https://musicaviva.com.au/concert-season/2026/forever-changed/

    47 min
  3. It's Not Self-Sabotage: ADHD, Adult Diagnosis and Finding What Works

    FEB 11

    It's Not Self-Sabotage: ADHD, Adult Diagnosis and Finding What Works

    What if the thing you've been calling self-sabotage was never that at all?   In this episode of Beyond Distracted, psychologists Anthony Brown and  Meagan Cooke are joined by Connor M. Greene – ADHD coach, psychosis support specialist and the author of ADHD Explained – to talk about adult diagnosis, self-blame, and what changes when you finally understand your brain.   Connor shares his journey through diagnoses of autism and ADHD, including the long road to assessment and the life-changing impact of small, everyday shifts once he started medication. Together, they explore the grief and relief that can follow a late diagnosis, the stigma that still surrounds ADHD, and why so many neurodivergent people find safety and understanding in one another.   We also dive into practical accommodations and innovative systems – from calendars and smart lights to rejecting conventional productivity advice altogether – and why finding what works for you matters more than doing things the "right" way.   It's an important conversation about letting go of negative self-beliefs and building a life that works with your brain, not against it.   Key takeaway from this episode: "You are not self-sabotaging."   Whether you were diagnosed later in life, are questioning your own experiences, or support neurodivergent people in your work or family, this episode offers clarity, compassion, and permission to find your own way of functioning.

    37 min
  4. ADHD, Hyperfocus and the Freedom of Being Yourself

    JAN 14

    ADHD, Hyperfocus and the Freedom of Being Yourself

    What if being completely alone in the wilderness was not terrifying… but restorative? In this episode of Beyond Distracted, hosts Anthony Brown and Meagan Cooke sit down with Krzysztof Wojtkowski, winner of Alone Australia Season 2, to explore what 64 days in the remote wilderness of Aotearoa New Zealand revealed about ADHD, masking, hyperfocus, and what it really means to feel at home in your own mind. For Krzysztof, the experience was not about survival at all costs. It was about calm. Quiet. And finally being able to take the mask off. Together, they unpack how neurodivergence shaped his time on Alone, why nature can feel more regulating than everyday life, and how ADHD can be both a powerful strength and a daily challenge. From hyperfocus and time blindness, to sleep struggles, productivity myths, and learning to accept yourself without apology, this is a deeply human conversation about living well with an ADHD brain. In this episode, we explore: Why 64 days alone felt like a recharge rather than a battle ADHD, masking, and the relief of being able to just be yourself Hyperfocus as both a superpower and a double-edged sword Time blindness, routines, alarms, and finishing what you start The role of nature and green space in regulating the ADHD nervous system Sleep, sensory input, and why background noise can actually help Coming out as neurodivergent on national television and what happened next Supporting neurodivergent children with patience, understanding, and acceptance Busting the myth that ADHD is an attention deficit (spoiler - it's not) Key takeaway from this episode: "It's okay to be me." Krzysztof's story is a reminder that ADHD is not something to fix or hide. It is something to understand, work with, and in many ways, celebrate. Whether you are newly diagnosed, supporting someone who is neurodivergent, or simply curious about how different brains experience the world, this episode offers insight, compassion, and permission to stop trying to be a round peg in a square hole.

    30 min
  5. Hiding or Thriving? What an ADHD Diagnosis Really Unlocks

    JAN 14

    Hiding or Thriving? What an ADHD Diagnosis Really Unlocks

    What happens when you finally have language for your life? In this episode of Beyond Distracted, psychologists Anthony Brown and Meagan Cooke are joined by Dr Oli Meredith – an AuDHD academic, public health researcher, and mindfulness practitioner – for a deeply human conversation about late diagnosis, grief, validation, and what it means to stop hiding. Oli shares her journey to an ADHD diagnosis in their 40s, following years of chronic fatigue, burnout, and misdiagnosis. Together, they explore how diagnosis can be profoundly validating even when the assessment process itself falls short, and why "trying harder" was never the answer. The conversation also dives into the often-overlooked intersection of ADHD and autism, particularly for women and gender-diverse people, and how masking, burnout, and internalised shame can shape careers, relationships, and self-worth. Drawing on Oli's research Hiding or Thriving, this episode looks at what truly helps neurodivergent people thrive – from meaningful work and flexible environments to community, honesty, and small but powerful accommodations. This is an episode about permission – to work differently, to rest, to follow curiosity, and to be fully yourself. In this episode, we cover: Late ADHD diagnosis and why it can be so validating ADHD, autism, and internalised hyperactivity Burnout, chronic fatigue, and misdiagnosis in women Grief, relief, and reinterpreting your life story Neurodivergence in academia and the workplace Why "exceptional organisational skills" exclude brilliant people The role of community, language, and lived experience Small accommodations that make a big difference Perfect for anyone navigating ADHD, autism, burnout, or questioning why life feels harder than it should – and for professionals wanting to build more inclusive systems. Key takeaway from this episode: "Diagnosis doesn't change who you are – it gives you language, permission, and compassion for who you've always been.

    35 min

About

Beyond Distracted shares stories from neurodiverse people who succeed by embracing - not hiding -their differences. Guests talk about how they manage ADHD, navigate work and life, and what they've learned along the way. Hosted by Anthony Brown and Meagan Cooke. Find out more via: https://www.beyond-distracted.com/