Voices of the Learning Network

The Learning Network

Get ready for "Voices of the Learning Network", from The Learning Network! Tune in to hear straight from our members, and industry partners, and keep up with what happening in the Network and the wider Learning and Development industry! Voices of the Learning Network is the official podcast of The Learning Network. We are a Community Interest Company (CIC) and exist solely to support you as a learning professional – so whether you are a seasoned professional or have just entered the field, the Learning Network exists to help you no matter what stage of your career you’re in. We like to think we have something for everyone – our community includes instructional designers, trainers, developers, technologists, consultants, strategists, freelancers and industry leaders.

  1. قبل ٦ أيام

    Why Good Training Fails Under Pressure

    What happens when people know exactly what to do—until the pressure is on? In this episode of Voices of The Learning Network, host Bill Banham sits down with Simon Strong, Co-Founder of Download Learning, to explore why traditional training often breaks down in high-pressure situations and what learning professionals can do to improve real-world performance. Drawing on research from neuroscience, education, and workplace learning, Simon explains how stress affects memory, attention, decision-making, and performance. He introduces the concepts of "cold training" and "hot training," revealing why content that works perfectly in a calm classroom environment may fail when learners face real-world consequences, tight deadlines, or critical decisions. The conversation explores one of the biggest challenges in instructional design: cognitive load. Simon argues that many learning experiences unintentionally overwhelm learners with information, making it harder—not easier—to perform when it matters most. Instead, effective learning design prioritizes clarity, simplicity, and decision-making support over content volume. Bill and Simon also dive into the science behind time-sequenced learning, examining how spaced learning approaches can improve retention, strengthen neural connections, and increase the transfer of learning into workplace performance. They discuss evidence from schools, universities, and workplace settings, as well as practical ways organizations can integrate time-sequenced learning into broader development strategies. The discussion concludes with an exploration of the CAR Model—Cognition, Application, and Review & Reflect—a framework designed to help learning professionals create learning ecosystems that support lasting behavior change rather than one-time knowledge acquisition. Whether you're an instructional designer, learning leader, compliance professional, or anyone responsible for workforce capability, this episode offers practical insights into designing learning that performs when it counts. In this episode: Understanding the difference between hot training and cold trainingHow stress affects memory, attention, and decision-makingWhy clarity often matters more than completenessThe hidden impact of cognitive load on workplace performanceCommon instructional design mistakes that undermine learning transferWhy knowledge recall is not the same as workplace competenceDesigning assessments that measure decisions and actionsThe neuroscience foundations of time-sequenced learningResearch on retention, application, and learning effectivenessApplying the CAR Model: Cognition, Application, Review & ReflectBuilding learning ecosystems that support behavior changeAbout Simon Strong Simon Strong is Co-Founder of Download Learning and a specialist in evidence-based learning design, workplace performance, and instructional effectiveness. His work focuses on helping organizations create learning solutions that improve real-world decision-making, retention, and performance under pressure. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    Why Good Training Fails Under Pressure
  2. ١٦ يوليو

    Beyond Learning Programs: Building Learning Systems

    What if the biggest obstacle to learning culture is the way most organizations think about learning itself? In this episode of Voices of The Learning Network, guest host Bill Banham sits down with HR futurist, organizational designer, author, and thought leader Perry Timms to explore a radically different approach to workplace learning—one that moves beyond courses, catalogs, and content delivery. Perry argues that learning isn't something organizations should package and distribute. Instead, it's something they should cultivate. Drawing on his experience in organizational transformation and inspired by Ricardo Semler's work on self-directed education, Perry introduces the concept of the "learning mosaic"—a flexible, curiosity-driven approach that empowers people to follow meaningful learning pathways based on real work, experimentation, and peer collaboration. The conversation explores why traditional approaches to learning often struggle to keep pace with modern organizations, how learning can become embedded in everyday work, and why the future may belong to organizations that treat learning as a dynamic system rather than a department function. Bill and Perry also discuss the rise of polymorphic organizations—adaptive, shape-shifting businesses capable of evolving continuously while preserving the best elements of their legacy. Along the way, they explore practical ways leaders can create stronger learning cultures by modeling curiosity, encouraging experimentation, and embracing uncertainty. Whether you're an L&D leader, HR professional, organizational designer, or business executive looking to build a more adaptive workforce, this episode offers fresh perspectives on how learning can become a living, breathing part of organizational success. In this episode: Why learning culture is more than a collection of training programsMoving from learning delivery to learning cultivationThe limitations of traditional course catalogs and curriculum structuresUnderstanding Perry's "learning mosaic" conceptHow curiosity-driven learning pathways accelerate developmentWhat polymorphic organizations can teach us about adaptabilityEmbedding learning into work, projects, and decision-makingLeaders as co-learners rather than experts with all the answersTwo simple questions that can unlock meaningful development conversationsBuilding learning ecosystems through communities, peers, and experimentationWhy the future of L&D may be distributed throughout the organizationAbout Perry Timms Perry Timms is an internationally recognized HR futurist, organizational designer, author, and speaker. He is known for challenging conventional approaches to work, leadership, and organizational development. Perry writes extensively about polymorphic organizations, adaptive systems, and the future of work, helping organizations become more resilient, human-centered, and responsive to change. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    Beyond Learning Programs: Building Learning Systems
  3. ٩ يوليو

    Designing the Future of Work: Why L&D Must Move Upstream

    What if Learning and Development stopped waiting for business leaders to define the future—and started helping design it? In this episode of Voices of The Learning Network, host Bill Banham sits down with Barry Winkless, Head of the Future of Work Institute and author of Future Work World, to explore how learning leaders can play a far more strategic role in shaping organizational success. Barry argues that too many L&D teams operate downstream, responding to requests after strategic decisions have already been made. The most influential learning functions, however, move upstream. They help define the capabilities, behaviors, and experiences that transform business strategy from aspiration into action. Using the example of becoming a more customer-centric organization, Barry explains how learning professionals can partner with business leaders to identify the specific skills, mindsets, and behaviors required for success—and build measurable pathways to achieve them. The conversation also dives into the evolving role of AI in workplace learning. Beyond automation and efficiency gains, Barry sees enormous potential for AI-powered augmentation, immersive learning experiences, personalized development journeys, and richer feedback loops. As learning becomes more accessible and scalable, the discussion turns to an important question: what uniquely human value will learning professionals bring in the future? Bill and Barry explore topics including emotional performance indicators, transformation-focused measurement, future-ready leadership mindsets, and practical strategies for scaling successful pilots into organization-wide initiatives. Whether you're leading learning strategy, designing workforce capabilities, or preparing your organization for the future of work, this episode offers practical ideas and fresh perspectives for increasing L&D's strategic influence. In this episode: Why L&D should move upstream into strategic business conversationsTurning business strategy into measurable skills, behaviors, and capabilitiesUsing customer-centricity as a framework for capability designBalancing skills taxonomies with transformation-focused outcomesHow AI is reshaping learning design and learner experiencesThe role of augmentation, automation, and immersive learningWhy experience design may become one of L&D's most important capabilitiesMoving beyond traditional KPIs toward emotional performance indicatorsBuilding future-ready mindsets and organizational adaptabilityScaling successful pilots into impactful "hero projects"Creating excitement and momentum around organizational transformationAbout Barry Winkless Barry Winkless is Head of the Future of Work Institute and author of Future Work World. He advises organizations on workforce transformation, future skills, learning strategy, leadership development, and the evolving relationship between technology, work, and human capability. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    Designing the Future of Work: Why L&D Must Move Upstream
  4. ٢ يوليو

    Why Playfulness Is a Serious L&D Advantage

    What if one of the biggest barriers to workplace learning is the belief that work must always feel serious? In this episode of Voices of The Learning Network, host Bill Banham sits down with Kelsey Kates, Founder of Play Free Works and former Global Head of Learning Experiences at Google, to explore why playfulness may be one of the most overlooked drivers of learning, trust, and performance at work. Drawing on years of experience designing learning at scale, Kelsey explains why people don't arrive at training sessions as blank slates or emotionless professionals. They arrive carrying stress, distractions, expectations, and life experiences that shape their ability to learn, connect, and contribute. The conversation challenges the "serious work fallacy"—the assumption that professionalism requires people to suppress their humanity. Kelsey shares how authentic playfulness creates psychological safety, encourages participation, strengthens relationships, and helps teams take the risks necessary for meaningful learning and innovation. Bill and Kelsey also unpack what playful learning actually means. Spoiler alert: it's not about adding games to every workshop. Instead, it's about creating environments where curiosity, experimentation, and connection can flourish. Through practical examples from her work at Google and beyond, Kelsey offers simple techniques that learning professionals, facilitators, and leaders can immediately apply to improve engagement and retention. From purposeful primers and movement-based prompts to creating opportunities for early participation, this episode is packed with practical ideas for anyone seeking to build more human-centered learning experiences. In this episode: Why emotional state and life context influence learning readinessChallenging the myth that professionalism requires seriousnessThe connection between playfulness, trust, and psychological safetyLessons from designing learning experiences at GoogleWhat playful learning means beyond gamification and "forced fun"How small moments of humor create stronger human connectionsWhy participation should begin within the first few minutes of learningPractical facilitation techniques to increase engagementUsing movement and visual shifts to reset attention and energyBuilding learning experiences that feel personal, even at scaleHow playful leadership can improve learning, collaboration, and performanceAbout Kelsey Kates Kelsey Kates is Founder of Play Free Works and former Global Head of Learning Experiences at Google. She helps organizations create more engaging, human-centered workplaces by applying the science of play, psychological safety, and experiential learning to leadership development, workplace culture, and learning design. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    Why Playfulness Is a Serious L&D Advantage
  5. ٢٥ يونيو

    The L&D Confidence Gap: What High-Performing Teams Do Differently

    What if the biggest challenge facing Learning and Development isn't technology, budget, or stakeholder buy-in - but confidence? In this episode of Voices of The Learning Network, host Bill Banham sits down with learning industry researcher, analyst, and Learning Changemakers founder Laura Overton to explore why so many talented L&D professionals struggle to lead with influence despite delivering exceptional work. Laura shares insights gathered from years of researching high-performing learning teams and reveals the common behaviors that separate the most impactful functions from the rest. Rather than focusing solely on content creation and program delivery, successful teams position themselves as strategic enablers of performance, capability, and organizational readiness. The conversation explores why traditional approaches to measuring learning value can unintentionally limit L&D's influence, how learning leaders can shift stakeholder conversations toward business outcomes, and why adaptability has become one of the most critical capabilities in today's workplace. Bill and Laura also examine how organizations can navigate continuous disruption, from the rise of the internet to today's AI and automation revolution. Along the way, Laura introduces her memorable "windmill versus umbrella" mindset—a practical framework for helping learning professionals embrace change rather than shelter from it. Whether you're an instructional designer, learning leader, talent professional, or business partner, this episode offers practical ideas for increasing your impact and helping your organization become more adaptable in an increasingly uncertain world. In this episode: Why leadership is about inspiring people to learn, grow, and adaptUnderstanding the confidence gap many L&D professionals experienceWhat high-performing learning teams consistently do differentlyMoving beyond program delivery toward business enablementEquipping employees for today's performance and tomorrow's challengesNavigating complexity and change without losing strategic directionUsing "tuning in" techniques to increase relevance and engagementEscaping the metrics trap of completions and satisfaction scoresBreaking the cycle of reactive learning requestsLessons from previous waves of disruption and what AI means for L&DWhy learning leaders should become windmills, not umbrellasAbout Laura Overton Laura Overton is one of the learning industry's most respected researchers, analysts, and thought leaders. As Founder of Learning Changemakers, she helps learning professionals build confidence, influence, and business impact. Through decades of research into high-performing L&D teams, Laura has become a leading voice on learning strategy, organizational capability, and workforce readiness. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    The L&D Confidence Gap: What High-Performing Teams Do Differently
  6. ١٨ يونيو

    From Training Requests to Performance Impact

    What happens when learning professionals stop acting as order takers and start becoming performance consultants? In this episode of Voices of The Learning Network, host Arash Rezaei-Mazinani shares his journey into Learning and Development, from mentoring colleagues in customer service to leading learning solutions in complex business environments. Arash reflects on what first attracted him to L&D and why, years later, he still finds the profession endlessly rewarding. For him, the work combines curiosity, creativity, and practical problem-solving in ways few careers can. The conversation explores how stakeholder expectations change when organisations move from large corporate environments to more performance-driven models. Arash explains how shifts in business priorities can create opportunities for L&D professionals to move beyond fulfilling training requests and instead focus on improving performance, driving business outcomes, and helping teams execute more effectively. Bill and Arash also discuss the growing importance of experimentation in workplace learning. With content creation becoming faster, cheaper, and more accessible than ever, learning teams have greater freedom to test ideas, iterate quickly, and discover what works. However, Arash argues that successful experimentation still starts with research, data, and a clear understanding of the problem being solved. The discussion also highlights the value of professional communities, mentoring, and peer learning. As a Director at The Learning Network, Arash shares how initiatives such as mentoring programmes, webinars, Mastery Days, and the annual Connect conference help learning professionals build meaningful relationships and continue developing throughout their careers. In this episode:  How Arash transitioned from customer service mentoring into Learning & Development  Why curiosity, creativity, and problem-solving remain essential L&D skills  The difference between delivering training and improving performance  How performance consulting changes stakeholder conversations  Why business outcomes should shape learning strategy  Creating safe environments for experimentation and innovation  The importance of research before launching learning initiatives  Lessons from mentoring and being mentored  How The Learning Network supports professional growth  What makes Connect one of the most valuable networking events for learning professionals About Arash Rezaei-Mazinani Arash Rezaei-Mazinani is Learning Solutions Manager at Aggreko and serves as a Director at The Learning Network. He is passionate about helping organisations improve performance through effective learning strategies and creating opportunities for learning professionals to connect, develop, and thrive. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    From Training Requests to Performance Impact
  7. ٩ أبريل

    Even Great Learning Fails When People Don’t Engage

    What if the real reason learning fails has nothing to do with content and everything to do with attention? In this episode of Voices of the Learning Network, host Bill Banham sits down with Ashley Hinchcliffe, Founder of MAAS Marketing, and one of the strongest voices challenging how learning and development shows up inside organisations. Ashley has spent the past decade working at the intersection of L&D, behaviour change, and internal communications. Her work centres on an uncomfortable truth: even great learning fails when people don’t engage with it — and engagement doesn’t happen by accident. Together, Bill and Ashley unpack why traditional L&D campaigns struggle to cut through in the attention economy, what learning teams can borrow from marketing without becoming salesy, and how to shift from assumption-driven programmes to behaviour-led design grounded in real user discovery. The conversation explores learning as a product: clear value propositions, intentional curation over content overload, and messaging that helps employees choose learning because it helps them do better work today — and build the career they want tomorrow. They also go deep on impact. Beyond attendance and completion rates, Ashley outlines the outcomes leaders actually care about: time to proficiency, error reduction, tool adoption, first-contact resolution, and attrition in critical roles — and how L&D teams can tell a credible ROI story in language CFOs understand. This is a practical, challenging episode for anyone ready to declutter their catalogue, sharpen their message, and make learning genuinely business-critical. In this episode, we explore: Why engagement fails before learning even launchesBehaviour-led design vs intention-led programmesTreating learning as a product with a value propositionBorrowing from marketing without getting salesyCuration over accumulation in noisy learning librariesMeasuring impact beyond completions and smile sheetsProving ROI in operational and financial termsThe future skill stack for influential L&D leadersSubscribe, share with a colleague who owns a major programme, and tell us: which outcome will you measure first? Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    Even Great Learning Fails When People Don’t Engage
  8. ٢ أبريل

    How Storytelling Helps Organisations Navigate Change

    Big ideas don’t fail because they’re wrong - they fail because they’re buried in jargon. In this episode of Voices of the Learning Network, host Bill Banham is joined by Hari Patience-Davies, a storytelling coach and facilitator who helps organisations turn complex ideas into clear, compelling communication people actually trust. Hari’s career spans screenwriting, journalism, marketing, digital delivery, product management, and consultancy. She is co-founder of 13 Times, the learning arm of Patience Davies Consulting — a small, agile East London consultancy known for its deep expertise in storytelling, facilitation, transformation, and innovation. Working across sectors including law, finance, media, FMCG, utilities, healthcare, engineering, and tech, Hari has seen a consistent pattern: the smartest work often fails at the final mile — explaining it. In this conversation, we explore how storytelling and facilitation help organisations navigate complexity and change. Hari shares practical tools she uses with teams, from tight loglines that force clarity to tactile methods that surface hidden assumptions. We dig into what it really means to be an “E-shaped” practitioner, how to adapt communication across vastly different cultures, and why launches are easy — but aftercare is the real work. This episode is a practical guide for L&D and change leaders who want to cut through noise, build trust, and make learning and transformation stick. In this episode, we explore: Why big ideas die in jargonStorytelling as a leadership and learning capabilityWhat it means to be an “E-shaped” practitionerAdapting communication across sectors and culturesUsing facilitation to navigate changeMeasuring impact beyond dashboards and vanity metricsWhy follow-up and aftercare matter more than launchTurning fear into clarity through narrativeIf this conversation helps you cut through complexity, follow the show, share it with a colleague who wrangles tough messages, and leave a quick review so others can find it. Voices of the Learning Network is the Learning Network podcast connecting the learning and development community. https://thelearning-network.org/

    How Storytelling Helps Organisations Navigate Change

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Get ready for "Voices of the Learning Network", from The Learning Network! Tune in to hear straight from our members, and industry partners, and keep up with what happening in the Network and the wider Learning and Development industry! Voices of the Learning Network is the official podcast of The Learning Network. We are a Community Interest Company (CIC) and exist solely to support you as a learning professional – so whether you are a seasoned professional or have just entered the field, the Learning Network exists to help you no matter what stage of your career you’re in. We like to think we have something for everyone – our community includes instructional designers, trainers, developers, technologists, consultants, strategists, freelancers and industry leaders.