Beyond Product Management

Heather Miller (PDRM Consulting)

Beyond Product Management is a podcast that explores the unexpected intersections of product management with other disciplines, industries, and ideas. We go beyond the usual frameworks to uncover fresh perspectives, unconventional insights, and the skills that truly set great PMs apart.

  1. 4D AGO

    The Midnight Test: How to Know If Your Offer Really Has Product-Market Fit

    What if the best way to understand product-market fit had nothing to do with data — and everything to do with a midnight ear infection? In this episode, Heather gets real about one of the most talked-about — and most misunderstood — concepts in business: product-market fit. She breaks it down in a way that actually sticks, starting with a personal story about Ash's fifth birthday and the moment that perfectly captures what it means to be the missing puzzle piece for your customer. This isn't a theory episode. This is the real talk that founders need to hear — about what it means when your offer is truly what someone is desperate for, versus what they think they might want someday. And how the answer to that question changes everything about how you position, message, and sell. "Positioning is listening made visible. You have to hear your customers describe their pain in their own words and then reflect it back to them. When you get that right, people feel like you read their diary." Ready to get clear on whether your offer has true product-market fit — and build the strategy to close the gap if it doesn't? The Strategic Intensive is where we go deep on your business strategy, your positioning, and the clarity that makes everything else work. This is not coaching. This is strategic work — built around your business, your goals, and your growth. → Learn more and apply for a Strategic Intensive PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    11 min

  2. MAY 14

    From Chaos to Predictable Pipeline with Javier Lozano Jr.

    What does a fractional CMO actually do — and how is it different from hiring a consultant? In this episode, Heather sits down with Javier Lozano Jr., a fractional CMO and CRO who helps founder-led B2B tech companies build predictable pipeline, align sales and marketing, and scale without the chaos. Javier brings a track record that speaks for itself — helping one company grow from $1M to $20M in under four years, managing a partnership with Volkswagen of America, and helping raise a $16M Series A. Now he brings that same horsepower to companies at a fraction of the cost. In this conversation, Heather and Javier dig into: Why the fractional model is gaining ground — and how to explain it to people who still think "consultant"The key difference between handing a founder a document and actually rolling up your sleevesJavier's go-to-market audit process: what he looks for in the first 30 days and why he doesn't start by fixing the websiteHow he builds a 90-day plan whether he's leading a workshop or conducting a full auditWhy his goal is always to work himself out of a jobThe revenue-first mindset that connects product, marketing, and salesWhat founders value most: not just strategic vision, but someone who can execute fastPlus, Heather and Javier share a real conversation about baking, Divinity candy, and why intuition — not exact measurement — is what makes both a great recipe and a great go-to-market strategy come together. Connect with Javier: LinkedInWebsiteDon't forget to grab his Free Revenue Diagnostic: Available on his website — a 15-minute assessment to find where your company is leaking revenuePodcast PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    28 min

  3. MAY 12

    From Legos on the Office Floor to Lead Developer: A Conversation with Ash

    In this special episode, I sit down with someone near and dear to my heart — my daughter Ash, a senior computer science major at Slippery Rock University and the developer behind PDRM Protect, our upcoming asset and vulnerability management software built specifically for small businesses. We talk about what it's actually like working on a real-world software product for the first time, the lessons Ash has learned over nearly a year of development, and yes — what it's like working for your parents. In this episode, we cover: What PDRM Protect is and why we built itHow Ash went from game development and class projects to building enterprise-level security softwareThe importance of documentation, naming conventions, and communication when working on a team (even a small one)Growing up around development teams and how that shaped Ash's instinctsWhat Ash is most excited — and most nervous — about as we head toward launchWho's easier to work for: Mom or Dad? (Ash answers honestly.)Connect with us: Find me on LinkedIn or Instagram, and stay tuned for PDRM Protect's beta launch — coming soon at pdrmconsulting.com. PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    16 min

  4. MAY 7

    Rooted in Strategy: Data, Devils, and Building a Business You Actually Want

    What happens when two strategists who geek out over data, clarity, and female entrepreneurship finally sit down together? This episode. Heather is joined by Steph Rubio — operations expert, business consultant, and the accidental founder of the Rooted and Relentless brand and mastermind. Steph works with women and historically underrepresented entrepreneurs to help them build sustainable businesses through foundational business knowledge, self-leadership, and data-backed decision-making. In this episode, Heather and Steph get into the real work behind building a business that doesn't just grow — but grows intentionally. What you'll hear in this episode: Why data isn't just numbers — and how to read both qualitative and quantitative signals in your businessThe "devil whack-a-mole" phenomenon and how to stop letting shiny objects, imposter syndrome, and comparison derail your strategyHow Steph's Rooted and Relentless brand came to life — accidentally — and what that teaches us about sitting with an idea before launching itWhy solopreneurs need annual strategic plans with quarterly inflection pointsThe power of saying no — and why it's actually a leadership skill, not a limitationWhat measuring the gain instead of the gap can do for your momentum and your mindsetConnect with Steph Rubio: InstagramRooted and Relentless MastermindOctober Strategic Planning Retreat Waitlist: Coming Soon PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    53 min

  5. MAY 5

    Raised to Lead: What My Mom Taught Me About Product Management

    Happy Mother's Day from Beyond Product Management. In this special solo episode, Heather Miller sets the guest chair aside and gets personal — sharing what her mom taught her about product leadership long before she ever ran a roadmap or wrote a product brief. Heather opens up about earning the nickname "Mom of the Team" early in her career as the only woman on an all-male technical team — and what it took for her to stop questioning it and start owning it. It wasn't about gender. It was about behavior: noticing when someone had gone quiet, holding space for the tension nobody else was naming, and doing the behind-the-scenes work that never shows up in a Jira board but keeps a team from hitting a wall. In this episode, Heather explores: Why the most important product leadership skills are often invisible — and why that's okayWhat "the Mom of the Team" really means, and when a nickname is a term of endearment vs. putting someone in a boxHow taking your ego out of the equation changes the decisions you make as a product leaderThe surprising overlap between great parenthood and great product managementA tribute to her mom, Pam — who just turned 75 and who models user-centered thinking better than most PMs Heather knowsThis one is for the moms, stepmoms, bonus moms, and everyone who shows up for others in that quiet, steady, get-it-done way that nobody talks about enough. PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    13 min

  6. APR 16

    From Risk Underwriter to Matchmaker: How Elizabeth Eiss Is Helping Small Businesses Finally Scale

    Elizabeth Eiss didn't set out to build a matchmaking firm. She set out to solve her own problem. After decades in corporate America — starting as a risk underwriter and working her way into management — Elizabeth took a leap into a tech startup. When that didn't work out, she started consulting. And somewhere along the way, her clients stopped asking her to do the work and started asking her to find the people who could. That's how Results Resourcing was born. In this episode, Heather and Elizabeth have a real conversation about what it means to actually step into the CEO role of your own business — not just the founder who handles everything because it feels safer that way. Elizabeth brings warmth, hard-won wisdom, and a refreshingly honest take on why so many small business owners are working in their business instead of on it. They talk about: The ROI of TIME calculator — and why the average business owner spends only 43% of their time on work that actually generates revenueWhy "fractional" isn't new, just newly namedThe Delegation Engine: why process comes before people (and why that order matters)How Elizabeth learned to vet not just for skill, but for fitThe client conversation that completely changed how she structured her businessWhy it's never done — and why that's actually a good thingIf you've ever felt like your business is running you instead of the other way around, this one is for you. Connect with Elizabeth Webpage Linkedin Linkedin-Results Resourcing YouTube Instagram Facebook PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    28 min

  7. APR 14

    From the Dinner Table to the Boardroom: How People First Leadership Builds Better Businesses (with Erin Treacy)

    What does frozen custard have to do with leadership? More than you'd think. In this episode, Heather sits down with Erin Treacy, business and leadership coach, to explore what it really means to lead with people at the center — and why the best-run businesses are built on human connection, not just systems. Erin draws on over a decade in the restaurant industry, a background in journalism, and growing up in a family business to share a framework for leadership that's as practical as it is people-centered. In this episode, you'll hear: What "people first leadership" actually means in practice — and how it shows up on the floor, not just in the officeWhy your systems should support your presence, not replace it (and how one entrepreneur discovered this the hard way in Q1)The banana story: what a missing grocery run revealed about empowerment, decision-making, and process gapsHow to tell the difference between a people problem, a process problem, and a systems problemWhy the leader who says "I already know this stuff" is always the red flag in the roomThe power of "nuggets of truth" — and how listening to even a difficult review or a frustrating situation can unlock hidden bottlenecks (RIP, Sally Sue)How the lessons we learn at the dinner table quietly shape the leaders we becomeConnect with Erin Treacy: Website Facebook  Instagram LinkedIn PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    32 min

  8. APR 9

    My Honest Q1 Review: What We Hit, What We Didn't, and What It Actually Means

    What does it really look like to close out a quarter honestly — the wins, the misses, and the meaning behind all of it? In this episode, Heather goes long on Q1 at PDR & Consulting: what was planned, what got done, what got delayed, and what that data is pointing toward for Q2. But more than a business recap, this episode is a masterclass in how to actually use a quarterly review — not just to log what happened, but to let it shape what comes next. In this episode: Why the PDR & Protect launch was delayed — and why that was the right callThe unexpected lesson a website redesign taught about business strategyHow cleaning up internal systems created capacity for projects not even on the Q1 roadmapWhy focus doesn't just help you hit goals — it creates space for ones you didn't know you hadHow to sit with your own Q1 data before rushing into Q2 planningYour reflection prompt: Pull up your actual Q1 goals — not from memory, the document — and ask yourself: What did you complete? Where did you surprise yourself? And what are you still carrying on the list that no longer belongs there? Resources mentioned: Focus 90 Program — PDR & Consulting's signature 90-day coaching programExecutive Coaching Sessions (45 or 90 minutes) — one-time strategic sessions with HeatherStrategic Intensive templatesConnect with Heather: Find her on LinkedIn and Instagram, and share what your Q1 is telling you that you haven't been willing to act on yet. PDRM Consulting's mission is to help businesses reduce risk, specifically in the fields of Cybersecurity and Product Management. Heather bridges the professional development gap in the corporate space by empowering growth-driven product managers to transition into strategic, results-oriented leaders. By focusing on enhancing key skills and decision-making capabilities, she helps them accelerate their leadership journey, achieve measurable outcomes more quickly, and excel in driving product success. Her approach ensures they thrive in their roles and unlock their full potential as impactful servant leaders within their organizations. You can follow us for more daily content: Instagram: @pdrmconsulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pdrm-consulting Join our Newsletter:https://solitary-block-17987.myflodesk.com/ofo6k6a0f9

    16 min
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Beyond Product Management is a podcast that explores the unexpected intersections of product management with other disciplines, industries, and ideas. We go beyond the usual frameworks to uncover fresh perspectives, unconventional insights, and the skills that truly set great PMs apart.

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  • Creator
    Heather Miller (PDRM Consulting)
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    69
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 PDRM Consulting All Rights Reserved.
  • Show Website
    Beyond Product Management