Beyond The Bottom Line

Ron Miller
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Beyond the Bottom Line is for you—the one trying to build something that actually works. Maybe you’re running a business, leading a team, building a side hustle, or just trying to survive another day in a system that feels more broken than ever. Either way, you’re not here for the fluff. And you’re definitely not here for another “5 steps to success” podcast with elevator music and corporate-speak. I'm Ron Miller. I’ve been in the trenches—building teams, fixing what’s broken, saying the quiet parts out loud. This podcast is where I bring you real talk about what’s working, what’s not, and what to do when the blueprint doesn’t fit your reality. We’ll hit everything from recruiting messes to operational chaos, broken tech, leadership gaps, and all the stuff that keeps businesses stuck—and people burned out. Because the truth is, success isn’t always a straight line. Sometimes it’s a fight. And you deserve to hear the stuff nobody else is saying. This is Beyond the Bottom Line. Let’s talk about the stuff that actually matters.

  1. 12/18/2025

    BTBL S2 EP 12: Rise of the Robots (and the Recruiters Who Never Got the Manual)

    Recruiting and staffing are evolving fast. The tools keep getting smarter… but the way most people use them absolutely isn’t. And that’s exactly why I brought Brad Smith, Chief Strategy Officer at Haley Marketing, back into the studio for a redo after our first recording turned into an echo chamber from hell. Brad has spent 23 years helping staffing firms of every size build smarter marketing strategies. Over the last few years, he and the team at Haley have partnered with one of the world’s leading AI consulting agencies to figure out how AI can actually help recruiters and staffing companies gain a competitive advantage—instead of becoming another shiny tool people don’t train on, don’t map correctly, and absolutely misuse. AI isn’t replacing recruiters anytime soon. But recruiters misusing AI? That’s a completely different story. In this episode, Brad and I get into: Why staffing leaders keep looking for a silver bullet instead of a strategy The truth about prompting (and why most people are using AI like Google) Mapping, adoption, training—and why these are the real reasons AI fails How AI is accelerating bad habits when you skip the fundamentals What’s working TODAY for recruiting, sales, and TA teams Haley’s 4 free AI tools for staffing companies (and how to actually use them) How their AI Resume Detector saved me from a $682 mistake 😬 Why “comfortable tasks” are killing recruiter productivity What small businesses and solo recruiters can do right now to get ahead And if you're wondering whether AI can really improve your recruiting? I’ve been using Haley’s free tools for a week… and my posts went from a few hundred impressions to 11,000–14,000+ with zero boosting. It works—if you use it correctly. Check out the tools we talked about at: ▶️ www.haleymarketing.com/staffingGPT ▶️ And connect with Brad on LinkedIn here https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradmsmith/  — ask him for access to their free AI tools. If this episode gave you clarity, a wake-up call, or just made you rethink how you (and your team) are using AI, share it with someone who needs to hear it.

    45 min

  2. 12/04/2025

    BTBL S2 EP 11 The Truth About Recruiting: It’s Not the Market… It’s the Method

    Is recruiting a job title… or a professional discipline? In this episode of Beyond the Bottom Line, I sit down with John Ruffini, Vice President of Professional Development at HealthTrust Workforce Solutions, to break down what recruiting really is and why so many teams are still getting the basics wrong. John has spent 30 years in the staffing industry. Every recruiter at HealthTrust goes through a two-week bootcamp he built that cuts ramp time by 30%. He has started and rebuilt branches, chaired multiple ASA councils, keynoted Staffing World, and literally wrote the book on recruiting fundamentals with his Amazon best seller “Money Makers – Proven Ways to Increase Sales and Productivity in the World of Professional Recruiting.” We get real about: Why recruiting is a professional discipline, not a job title The difference between reactive “post and pray” and true proactive recruiting How AI is exposing bad habits faster than ever (and where it actually helps) Why ghosting, black-hole ATS experiences, and weak outreach are self-inflicted What the best staffing firms and TA leaders are doing to train and develop recruiters today We also dig into metrics, ramp time, and what it looks like when recruiters actually understand the business impact of their desk—not just their daily activity targets. About John: John is VP of Professional Development at HealthTrust Workforce Solutions, past Chair of ASA’s Healthcare, Search & Placement, and Education Section Councils, multiple-time Staffing World presenter, and ASA’s 2024 Volunteer of the Year. He’s the author of Money Makers and the #1 Amazon best seller A Quest for Alex. Connect with John: LinkedIn: search John Ruffini Instagram & TikTok: @beabetterrecruiter Giveaway: John is giving away a free copy of “Money Makers” to the best Mailbag question about recruiting, training, or leadership that comes in after this episode. Send your questions for John (or for me) to: www.recruitertraininghub.com Learn more about Elevate Talent Solutions: www.elevate-talent-solutions.com Follow the show so you do not miss upcoming episodes and future Mailbag sessions of Beyond the Bottom Line: Balancing Evolution with Execution.

    37 min

  3. 11/13/2025

    BTBL Relaunch EP 10: Are you overpaying for your recruiting team? (Spoiler- You probably are but NOT for the reason you think!)

    You think you’re saving money on recruiting? Think again. In this episode, I break down one of the biggest (and most expensive) blind spots in business today — undertraining, under developing, and overpaying recruiters to process instead of recruit. From “post and pray” job posting chaos to AI tools collecting digital dust, it’s time to ask the real question: what do you actually want your recruiting team doing? Ron shares candid stories from staffing leaders, HR teams, and his own war stories from the field — the ones that prove most companies aren’t short on talent… they’re short on direction. If your team’s drowning in applicants, ghosting candidates, or spending more on job boards than strategy, this one’s for you.

    17 min

  4. 10/30/2025

    BTBL Relaunch Ep 9: Recruiters, We Need to Talk (and So Do Your Posts)

    Tired of hearing: “Customize your resume for every job.” “Make sure your cover letter shows your personality.” “It’s all about timing and luck.” Yeah… no. In this episode, I dive headfirst into why recruiting advice online has turned into a parody of itself. From 350+ “AI tools” that recruiters don’t fully understand, to job descriptions that read like broken fortune cookies, to the endless cycle of “we get thousands of resumes” sympathy posts — it’s all become noise. This isn’t about hating recruiters — it’s about calling out the bad habits that make good recruiters look bad. Because the truth is, most recruiters aren’t lazy — they’re untrained, unsupported, and stuck inside broken systems that never taught them how to recruit in the first place. This episode is real talk for anyone tired of the nonsense. Because the problem isn’t timing. It’s training. And too many people either were never offered this course.....or skipped class.

    10 min

  5. 10/16/2025

    BTBL Relaunch Ep 8: WTF do you do again?

    WTF Do You Actually Do? (The Two-Year Rant Every Founder Needs to Hear) After two years of building, posting, podcasting, training, and helping companies get their you-know-what together — I kinda have hit my limit. In this unfiltered episode, I rip the curtain off the “LinkedIn illusion” and answers the question I keep getting asked: “Ron, what the f** do you actually do?”* From staffing firms drowning in duct-taped processes to small businesses buried under buzzwords, this episode is part therapy session, part reality check, and all truth. I talk about what it really takes to build systems, train people, and fix recruiting and operations when the world’s too busy chasing hashtags and hype. If you’ve ever felt invisible while actually doing the damn work — this one’s for you. No sales pitch. No gurus. No BS. Just real talk from someone who’s been there.

    10 min

  6. 09/18/2025

    BTBL Relaunch Ep 7: Messy Arcs, Hidden Talent, and Why Recruiting Is a People Business -- Sept 18th

    Careers aren’t ladders—they’re launch ramps with detours, pivots, and the occasional George-Costanza-on-the-floor moment. In this episode, Ron sits down with Katy Shapiro—one of his all-time favorite hires—whose path runs from The Franklin Institute to Top 50 TA Leader to founder of Unapologetic Ambition. They unpack: How to “own the room” in an interview and flip the script (prep, presence, and purposeful questions) The difference between posting to acquire talent and actually recruiting Why corporate TA needs business access (boots, hard hats, and learning the work) Bias in job descriptions and selection—and how to widen your funnel without lowering the bar Building high-performing TA teams (speed + care) and giving people room to try, fail, and grow Entrepreneurship, grief, and channeling your voice into a mission that serves others Simple ways to restore humanity: give candidates closure and keep people at the center Connect with Katy:  katy@unapologeticambition.org   • IG: @unapologeticambitionllc Connect with Ron & Elevate Talent Solutions: elevate-talent-solutions.com Produced with Adrianne Ruthart, ACR Ventures (acrventures.com). Subscribe, share, and send your mailbag questions—your question might land in next week’s episode.

    43 min

  7. 09/04/2025

    BTBL Relaunch Ep 6: Your Story Doesn’t Need a Trauma Reel

    Not every leader was “forged in fire.” Some of us were built in silence — through hard work, consistency, and showing up every damn day. In this episode of Beyond the Bottom Line, Ron Miller unpacks the dangerous myth that your story only has value if it comes with a redemption arc, a comeback tale, or a polished LinkedIn headshot with piano music behind it. From a Ted Lasso dartboard lesson to a Captain Marvel mic drop, this episode challenges the performative culture of “origin stories” and calls for a return to what really builds trust: quiet wins, consistency, and authenticity. Because you don’t owe anyone a trauma reel. Your story doesn’t have to be a comeback. It just has to be real. Tune in and let’s normalize the steady builder.

    15 min

  8. 08/21/2025

    BTBL Relaunch EP5: The American Ninja Candidate Experience

    If applying for a job today or your hiring process feels like running the American Ninja Warrior course—with fewer wins and more bruises—you’re not imagining it. In this episode of Beyond the Bottom Line, I break down the absurdity of the modern candidate journey, obstacle by obstacle: From job postings that bait and switch, to tech stacks that spin you off like a rolling log, to interview gauntlets that would make Navy SEALs tap out. And then… I introduce you to Alvin. A real candidate. A real story. And a masterclass in how broken hiring still is, even when someone does everything right. If your hiring process looks like a challenge course, don’t be surprised when the best talent doesn’t show up. Let’s talk about how to fix it—because Elevate Talent Solutions was built for exactly this.

    19 min
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Beyond the Bottom Line is for you—the one trying to build something that actually works. Maybe you’re running a business, leading a team, building a side hustle, or just trying to survive another day in a system that feels more broken than ever. Either way, you’re not here for the fluff. And you’re definitely not here for another “5 steps to success” podcast with elevator music and corporate-speak. I'm Ron Miller. I’ve been in the trenches—building teams, fixing what’s broken, saying the quiet parts out loud. This podcast is where I bring you real talk about what’s working, what’s not, and what to do when the blueprint doesn’t fit your reality. We’ll hit everything from recruiting messes to operational chaos, broken tech, leadership gaps, and all the stuff that keeps businesses stuck—and people burned out. Because the truth is, success isn’t always a straight line. Sometimes it’s a fight. And you deserve to hear the stuff nobody else is saying. This is Beyond the Bottom Line. Let’s talk about the stuff that actually matters.

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  • Creator
    Ron Miller
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    31
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