Beyond the Listing

Pam Flitton

Welcome to Beyond the Listing with Pam Flitton. With over 23 years of experience, Pam takes you beyond the buying and selling process to uncover what truly matters in real estate. From choosing the right realtor and understanding loans to hearing firsthand stories from clients, lenders, and industry partners, this podcast is all about helping you make confident, informed decisions. Whether you’re a first-time homebuyer, a seasoned investor, or just curious about the market, join Pam as she breaks down the process, shares insights, and connects with the community - one story at a time.

  1. Replacing Your Property Manager with AI and Gig Workers with Jordan Brown

    6월 30일

    Replacing Your Property Manager with AI and Gig Workers with Jordan Brown

    Are you tired of handing over 8-10% of your rental income to a traditional property manager just to have them nickel-and-dime you on maintenance fees? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, host Pam Flitton sits down with Jordan Brown, co-founder of Keasy, a revolutionary tech-enabled property management company. Jordan shares his incredible journey of leaving his 95-year-old family logistics empire to disrupt the real estate industry. Jordan explains how Keasy is bringing the "Netflix and Uber" business model to landlords. By combining a highly intelligent, centralized AI "brain" with an on-demand, gig-economy network of local "Key Holders," Keasy allows landlords to pay a flat $45/month subscription and choose property management services completely a la carte. Say goodbye to hidden fees and giving up your hard-earned cash flow! 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton 🎤 Featuring: Jordan Brown, Co-Founder of Keasy Jordan Brown is the Co-Founder and Partner at Keasy, a tech-enabled property management company based in Washington State. Leveraging nearly two decades of logistics and supply chain experience as a former Vice President at NFI, he brings systems-first thinking to real estate by developing an on-demand "key holder" network that delivers full-service property management at a fraction of traditional costs. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ Why traditional property managers have a massive conflict of interest. ✔️ Why Jordan left a highly successful family logistics business to launch a startup. ✔️ How Keasy uses a $45 subscription model and an "a la carte" service menu. ✔️ How Keasy utilizes an on-demand army of gig-economy "Key Holders" for local tasks. ✔️ How Keasy trains a centralized AI "brain" to make automated daily property decisions. 📇 Connect with Jordan Brown & Keasy: 🌎 Website → https://keasy.ai/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-brown 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/ 🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    44분
  2. Protecting Your Real Estate Wealth from Hidden Taxes and Divorce Mistakes with Susan Jones

    6월 23일

    Protecting Your Real Estate Wealth from Hidden Taxes and Divorce Mistakes with Susan Jones

    Are you inadvertently setting your family up for a massive tax bill or a legal nightmare with your real estate portfolio? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, host Pam Flitton sits down with Susan Jones, a wealth advisor, licensed attorney, and managing partner of Sorelle Wealth Partners. Susan breaks down exactly how investors can protect their wealth and avoid the devastating concentration risks and hidden tax traps that come with real estate investing. Susan shares eye-opening stories—from a forgotten uncle on a marquee building’s title deed to the catastrophic financial mistake of keeping the house during a divorce. She also explains why a 1031 exchange isn’t always the smartest move, how to properly manage your LLC expenses, and why women must take confident ownership of their financial futures. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton 🎤 Featuring: Susan Jones, Sorelle Wealth Partners Susan W. Jones, JD, CFP®, CDFA® is the Managing Partner and Co-founder of Sorelle Wealth Partners. A licensed attorney and wealth advisor, she specializes in guiding high-net-worth clients through major life transitions like divorce, retirement, and liquidity events. Susan combines her legal, tax, and estate planning expertise with a coaching-oriented approach to deliver highly personalized and actionable financial strategies. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ Why failing to review your real estate titles regularly can lead to devastating lawsuits. ✔️ Why completing a 1031 exchange isn't always the best tax strategy. ✔️ How depreciation recapture and out-of-state income taxes blindside investors. ✔️ Why fighting to keep the family home during a divorce is often a huge mistake. ✔️ How Susan helps women step into the "main character" role of their financial lives. 📇 Connect with Susan Jones: 🌐 Website → https://www.sorellewealthpartners.com/ 🔗 LinkedIn → http://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-wofford-jones-j-d-cfp%C2%AE-cdfa%C2%AE-73942688 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/ 🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    46분
  3. The Nerdy Guide to Estate Planning, Trusts, and Avoiding Probate ft. Cecilia Amo

    6월 16일

    The Nerdy Guide to Estate Planning, Trusts, and Avoiding Probate ft. Cecilia Amo

    Are your loved ones at risk of facing probate, family conflict, or losing their inheritance because you haven't properly set up your estate plan? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, host Pam Flitton speaks with Cecilia Amo, an estate planning attorney and founder of Amo Law. Cecilia shares her transition from civil litigation to relational estate planning and explains why getting to know clients is the key to creating effective legacies. She breaks down the critical differences between wills and trusts, the dangers of DIY legal documents, and why everyone over 18 needs a plan. Cecilia also introduces her new book, Your After Credit Scene, which uses pop culture to demystify legacy planning and make it approachable for everyone. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton 🎤 Featuring: Cecilia Amo, Amo Law Cecilia Amo is an estate planning attorney, speaker, and the author of Your After-Credits Scene: A Nerd's Guide to Wills, Trusts, and Legacy. As the founder of Amo Law, she serves clients across California including Orange, Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Riverside, and San Diego counties focusing on asset protection and intergenerational wealth. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ Why a will guarantees probate and a trust keeps your family out of court. ✔️ How the government's default plan (probate) can drain your assets. ✔️ Why DIY documents and AI estate plans often fail. ✔️ How failing to align assets (like life insurance) ruins estate plans. ✔️ The best strategy for getting aging parents to plan their estates. 📇 Connect with Cecilia Amo: 🌐 Website → https://amo-law.com/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/amolawlegacyplanning 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/amolaw.legacyplanning/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/amo-law-legacy-planning/ 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/ 🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    53분
  4. The Program Making Home Sellers Thousands (With Zero Upfront Cost!) ft. Rob Marucci

    6월 9일

    The Program Making Home Sellers Thousands (With Zero Upfront Cost!) ft. Rob Marucci

    Are your clients walking away from thousands of dollars in profit simply because they can't afford to make minor repairs before listing their homes? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, host Pam Flitton speaks with Rob Marucci, a real estate investor, broker, and owner of Better Living Realty in Connecticut. Rob shares his journey from reading Rich Dad, Poor Dad as a Target manager to launching his real estate career in the turbulent 2007 market. He explains why he transitioned from multi-family investing to single-family and Airbnb properties, and how patience is the key to real estate wealth. Rob also breaks down his innovative "Curb to Close" program, designed to help sellers prep their homes for the market (painting, decluttering, landscaping, and minor repairs) with absolutely zero upfront cost. By covering the initial expenses and taking payment at closing, Rob has helped sellers massively increase their property values. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton 🎤 Featuring: Rob Marucci, Better Living Realty Rob Marucci is the owner of Better Living Realty LLC and founder of the “Home Staging Revolutionized” program, which combines design, buyer psychology, and data-driven marketing. Based in Middlebury, Connecticut, he specializes in investment properties and residential real estate transactions. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ How the "Curb to Close" program covers upfront repair costs for sellers. ✔️ How basic landscaping and cleaning added $120K to an estate's value. ✔️ Why selling a home "as-is" is a terrible strategy for maximizing profit. ✔️ Why major remodels (kitchens/baths) rarely offer a good return on investment. ✔️ Why Rob prefers single-family rentals and Airbnbs over multi-family properties. 📇 Connect with Rob Marucci: 🌐 Website → https://www.betterlivingrealtyllc.com/ 📘 Facebook → http://www.facebook.com/betterlivingrealestate 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-marucci-rob-91408a2b/ 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/ 🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    34분
  5. How to Become a Real Estate Developer in Your Own Small Town with Kristi Kandel

    6월 2일

    How to Become a Real Estate Developer in Your Own Small Town with Kristi Kandel

    Are you tired of waiting for outside developers to revitalize your community? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, host Pam Flitton speaks with Kristi Kandel, a real estate developer and the founder of IND Consulting. Kristi shares her expertise from nearly 20 years of nationwide development to explain why local residents are perfectly positioned to rebuild their own towns—even without millions of dollars or a massive track record. Kristi discusses her massive passion project, Elevate Southwest Florida, a $140 million sports and wellness destination designed to combat adult loneliness and create "third spaces" for the community. She also breaks down the five core strategic partners every new developer needs and the heartwarming "Islands and Dolphins" vision that keeps her motivated. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton 🎤 Featuring: Kristi Kandel, Real Estate Developer & Founder of IND Consulting Kristi Kandel is a real estate developer and Founder of I&D Consulting, with experience leading projects across industrial, mixed-use, housing, and clean energy sectors. She is the creator of Dev-OS and Founder of Local Real Estate Developers, focusing on streamlining development and enabling new projects to move from concept to execution. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ How Kristi is building a $140M sports and wellness destination to foster adult friendships. ✔️ Why national tenants ignore cities with populations under 10,000, leaving massive opportunities for locals. ✔️ The five strategic partners you need: architect, engineer, broker, lender, and contractor. ✔️ How to leverage your past experience to gain credibility and secure funding for your first deal. ✔️ The inspiring story of how "Islands and Dolphins" became the vision behind Kristi's firm. 📇 Connect with Kristi Kandel: 🌐 Website → https://kristikandel.com/ 📸 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/kristikandel/l 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristi-kandel-4b650a12/ 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    27분
  6. How to Find the Perfect Home Using the Wheelhouse Method with Kim Costa

    5월 26일

    How to Find the Perfect Home Using the Wheelhouse Method with Kim Costa

    Are you searching for a home based solely on aesthetics and budget, while ignoring what you truly need? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, Pam Flitton speaks with Kim Costa from Sotheby's International Realty about the art of aligning your living space with your core life values. Kim breaks down how she helps clients navigate the emotional and practical aspects of moving using her signature "Wheelhouse Method." Inspired by Maslow's hierarchy of needs and the Wheel of Life, Kim explains how assessing eight specific life categories helps buyers and sellers make confident, holistic real estate decisions. She also sheds light on evaluating hidden renovation costs, guiding empty nesters through downsizing, and the growing trend of multi-generational family compounds. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton (RE/MAX) 🎤 Featuring: Kim Costa (Sotheby's International Realty) Kim Costa is a Realtor® with Sotheby’s International Realty, serving the luxury markets of Milton, Roswell, and Alpharetta. After a 27-year career in residential construction finance, she transitioned into real estate and developed the Wheel House Method, a framework focused on lifestyle-driven home decisions. She is also the author of Live in Your Wheel House and host of the podcast of the same name. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ The concept of the "Wheelhouse Method" and its 8 core life areas. ✔️ How life changes—like divorce, aging, or career shifts—drive our real estate moves. ✔️ The hidden costs and obstacles of buying a home that needs major renovations. ✔️ How to navigate conflicting housing needs between family members. ✔️ Why many buyers are shifting toward multi-generational family compounds. 📇 Connect with Kim Costa: 🌐 Website → https://lifestylefoundations.com/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/kimcosta/ 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/kimcosta/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimcosta/ 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    34분
  7. How to Scale or Sell Your Real Estate Brokerage with Norma Rawlings

    5월 19일

    How to Scale or Sell Your Real Estate Brokerage with Norma Rawlings

    Scaling a brokerage one agent at a time can be an exhausting grind. But what if you could acquire 20 to 25 productive agents in a single day? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, Pam Flitton speaks with Norma Rawlings from Broker BMA about the art of valuing, buying, and selling real estate brokerages. Norma breaks down how she and her business partner, real estate coach Wayne Einhorn, help brokers navigate the delicate M&A process. From managing strict confidentiality to finding the perfect cultural fit, Norma explains exactly what goes into a successful 90-day acquisition. She also sheds light on current market trends and why reaching "scale" is the most vital move a brokerage can make to handle fixed costs today. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton (RE/MAX) 🎤 Featuring: Norma Rawlings (Broker BMA) Norma Rawlings is a real estate professional with BrokerVMA and the co-author of The Complete Guide to Buying and Selling Real Estate Brokerages: 10 Steps to Success. She specializes in brokerage valuation, mergers, and acquisitions, helping firms navigate the financial and operational steps involved in successful transitions. Norma supports brokers and owners seeking clarity, structure, and strategic guidance throughout the brokerage sales process. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ The concept of "Recruiting through Acquisition." ✔️ Why you should never try to sell your own brokerage (FSBO). ✔️ The typical 90-day timeline for a brokerage transition. ✔️ How to maintain agent loyalty during a merger or buyout. ✔️ Why many sellers find immense relief in returning to sales. 📇 Connect with Norma Rawlings: 🌐 Website → https://brokervma.com/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/norma-rawlings-00b089256/ 📇 Connect with Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    43분
  8. Safe, Legal, and Ethical Creative Finance with Caleb Christopher

    5월 12일

    Safe, Legal, and Ethical Creative Finance with Caleb Christopher

    Are you waiting to buy real estate, or are you buying real estate and waiting? In this episode of Beyond the Listing, host Pam Flitton sits down with Caleb Christopher, a former prison guard and cybersecurity expert turned real estate investor and title company founder. Featured in Pace Morby’s BiggerPockets book Wealth Without Cash, Caleb shares how he transitioned from an "accidental landlord" into a master of creative finance. Caleb breaks down the exact strategies he uses to negotiate Subject-To (SubTo) deals, why he actively disqualifies sellers to find the right fit, and how his company, Creative TC, is changing the game by ensuring creative transactions are safe, legal, and ethical. He also shares brilliant tips for new investors, including his "Google Maps hack" for buying in the path of progress and how to leverage low-interest consumer loans to build a massive rental portfolio. 🎧 Hosted by: Pam Flitton 🎤 Featuring: Caleb Christopher, Real Estate Investor & Founder of Creative TC Caleb Christopher is a creative finance real estate specialist featured in Pace Morby’s BiggerPockets book Wealth Without Cash. With a background in law enforcement and cybersecurity, he focuses on risk management and ethical deal structuring. Caleb is the founder of Creative TC, DOS Guard, and Creative Title, where he specializes in closing complex real estate transactions. 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ The Google Maps Hack: How to use the "green and brown" areas on Google Maps to buy in the highly profitable path of progress. ✔️ Mastering the Sales Call: Why aggressively disqualifying options is the best way to pitch creative finance. ✔️ Safe, Legal, and Ethical SubTo: A transparent look at the due-on-sale clause and how to properly structure deals. ✔️ Wraparound Mortgages: How to turn a low-interest primary loan into pure cash flow. ✔️ The House Hacking Blueprint: Why buying a new primary residence every 1–2 years is the ultimate strategy. 📇 Connect with Caleb Christopher: 🌐 Website → https://calebchristopher.io/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/FCalebChristopher 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/fcalebchristopher 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/calebchristopher/ 🎙 Follow Pam Flitton: 🌐 Website → http://www.platinumpropertygroup.net/ 📘 Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/pflitton 📷 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/flittonpam/ 🔗 LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamflitton/🔖 Don’t Forget to LIKE 👍, SUBSCRIBE 🔔 & COMMENT 💬 Below! ⭐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/

    38분

소개

Welcome to Beyond the Listing with Pam Flitton. With over 23 years of experience, Pam takes you beyond the buying and selling process to uncover what truly matters in real estate. From choosing the right realtor and understanding loans to hearing firsthand stories from clients, lenders, and industry partners, this podcast is all about helping you make confident, informed decisions. Whether you’re a first-time homebuyer, a seasoned investor, or just curious about the market, join Pam as she breaks down the process, shares insights, and connects with the community - one story at a time.