Biblical Conversations

Joel Allen
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This podcast is an honest conversation about difficult aspects of the Bible to seek understanding that leads to enhanced faith and deepened discipleship. Cover art photo provided by JFL on Unsplash: https://unsplash.com/@wallsbyjfl

  1. 03/31/2020

    BC 2.16 Interview with Rabbi Pesach Wolicki: God and the Coronavirus

    In this interview, Pesach and I discuss some of the unhelpful ways that certain people of faith have responded to the pandemic gripping our world. How does God want us to respond? Can we know what God is saying to us through these difficult times? Pesach critiques some of the interpretations being offered in Israel by certain rabbis there. He goes to Exod 33:21-22 to point out that Moses could only really glimpse God from the backside. In other words, while momentous events are going on, it is almost as if God's hand is before our eyes. This is not a time of understanding but faithful, humble, prayerful service. After the tragedy passes by, only then can we get a glimpse of God's will. The link to the opinion piece mentioned in Jerusalem Post is:  https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Faith-and-arrogance-in-times-of-the-coronavirus-crisis-621213 We also discussed I Chronicles 7:13-14 which is being quoted quite a bit these days.

    1h 13m

  2. 03/21/2020

    BC 2.15 The Bible and the Coronavirus (or "How a few folks at DWU are living out their faith")

    This episode seeks to engage in the terrible virus sweeping our country asking, “What biblical themes should we be thinking about? Where is God speaking to us? What lessons can we learn?" I talked with Todd Mueller, an (associate professor of business administration), Eric and Denise Van Meter (campus pastors at DWU) and I have some thoughts of my own. The sound quality is not good because of social distancing. In one case, I recorded with an app that allowed us to be at some distance. In another case, we recorded in studio but standing a bit further away than is normal. But I have an idea as to how we can improve the recording next time and still retain a social distancing. The article I mentioned in Harvard Health can be found here. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-coronavirus-pandemic-is-not-good-but-the-news-is-not-all-bad-2020031919247

    39 min

  3. 03/17/2020

    BC 2.14 A Conversation with Betty Oldenkamp on the Bible, Refugees and the Refugee Resettlement

    Betty Oldenkamp is the Executive Director of Lutheran Social Services in Sioux Falls and Director of their "Center for New Americans" which helps refugees resettle into South Dakota. In this episode, Betty and I discussed the striking way in which the Bible in both testaments expresses tremendous concern for the refugee. One text actually declares a curse on those who misuse and mistreat refugees (Deut 27:19). See the link below. Betty discussed the tremendous work involved in helping refugees resettle and the striking resilience, perseverance, bravery and entrepreneurship these persons display. The application process is extensive and exhaustive before they even set foot on American soil. Tragically, some of the most desperate refugee situations involve countries banned entrance. Because of increased restrictions in the present administration, the numbers of refugees being resettled has gone from roughly 500 a year to 60 or so (into South Dakota).

    37 min

  4. 03/13/2020

    REL 141 Belief in God and Pascal’s Wager

    This episode is for students in my REL 141 course which is going online until Mar 30. I discuss Pascal’s Wager for those struggling to believe in God.

    35 min

  5. 03/09/2020

    BC 2.13 The story of Thomas Madut: From Lost Boy of Sudan to Marathon Runner Extraordinaire

    This is my second episode on the Bible and Immigration and is an interview with my friend and colleague Thomas Madut. Thomas was one of the "Lost Boys of Sudan" who fled from the Janjaweed fighters who wrecked devastation throughout south Sudan in the mid-1990's. Thomas is an extraordinary marathon runner and ranked 46th in the Boston Marathon just a few years ago. Thomas is a Trio Student Success Adviser and a Peer Mentor Coordinator here at Dakota Wesleyan University. I interviewed him about his experience of transformation from the refugee camps of Ethiopia and Kenya to the plains of South Dakota. We discussed the biblical texts commanding compassion for foreigners. It was fun to see Thomas' eyes light up as he realized the important place immigrants, orphans and widows have in God's heart of compassion. They are the persons God especially cares for because they lack the typical structures of societal support and provision. https://www.openbible.info/topics/foreigners

    49 min

  6. 03/03/2020

    BC 2.12 The Curious Case of SD HB 1212: Where the 1st Amendment and the Welfare of Children Collide

    This podcast examines a recent experience I had advocating for South Dakota HB 1212 which would have added clergy to the list of mandatory reporters of suspected cases of child neglect and abuse. 45 states already mandate that clergy report suspected cases. Reporting suspected abuse does not mean that anyone gets in trouble. It just means that a qualified professional checks in on the child's welfare. Teachers, counselors, healthcare providers, social welfare workers and many other professions are already mandatory reporters. The Board of Ordained Ministries of the Dakota's Conference of the United Methodist Church says, "House Bill 1212 not only aids in offering protections for our most vulnerable members of society but also frees our clergy to be better disciple-makers who model the teachings of Jesus and speak up on behalf of children."  You would think it would be a no-brainer, right?  Enter Norman Woods of the Family Heritage Alliance - a conservative organization that "seeks to defend the values that you cherish" - namely the protection of family, faith and freedom. Norm testified against the bill claiming it was an impingement on first amendment protection of the free exercise of religion. Legislators there clearly know Norman and respect his opinion. The bill passed out of the Judiciary committee on a 9/3 vote and was voted down in the House of Representatives on a 30/35 vote. I believe if the FHA hadn't opposed it, it would have passed.  I argue in this podcast that the biblical support provided on the FHA website for their work in protecting religious liberties completely misses the point of the two passages on which it is based (1 Peter 2:11-14 and Romans 13:1-3). It is a great example of reading what you want to see into the Bible and ignoring what it actually says. Secondly, the FHA didn't provide any explanation on what exactly makes HB 1212 a 1st amendment curtailment. Norman simply said it was. But there is a very clear argument otherwise (provided in the podcast). Furthermore, as far as we can tell, there has not been a single 1st amendment challenge brought against any of the 45 states where clergy are mandatory reporters. Not a single one. If we were truly dealing with a curtailment of the free exercise of religion, someone would have noticed and brought a challenge. But this is not the case.  There is absolutely no good reason to say that HB 1212 threatened 1st amendment religious freedoms. I think it is clear that children are now less safe, less protected, their welfare less prioritized because of this political influence. It is hard to prioritize the welfare of children. It so often gets ignored because people don't want to disturb their church with information about sexual abuse that may occur. So it gets swept under the carpet with the claim, "The state has no business telling the church what to do." As I say in the podcast, the state cannot tell a preacher how to interpret the Bible, but it sure can tell him how fast he can drive on his way to Bible study.  In the judiciary hearing, one wise representative asked an opponent of HB 1212, "Can you explain to me exactly how the practice of your faith would change if HB 1212 were passed?" That is the question and the failure to answer proved the point! Churches should place greater important on the protection of children than upon the protection of 1st amendment privilege. The FHA folks are good well-intentioned godly people. They are also unable to see how their fierce attention of protection of religious liberty is blinding them to a deeper calling. So South Dakota continues on its path of prioritizing the needs of adults over those of children in voting down of HB 1212. And it is a curious situation when the misapplication of the 1st amendment supersedes Jesus clear command that we "suffer the little children to come"

    37 min

  7. 02/18/2020

    BC 2.11 The Bible and Our Environment: A Biblical Conversation with David Hollis

    We now know that January 2020 was the hottest January since temperatures have been tracked. Let’s talk climate. What does the Bible say about our environment? How should we think biblically about the multiple human impacts on the created world? Besides a warming environment, insect populations and bird populations are in steep descent. This episode contains a biblical conversation with David Hollis, the Director of the Wesley Foundation at Belmont University in Nashville. David is the author of a book on the topic called "Three Trees: The Beginning, Middle and New Beginning of Creation's Story" (available on Amazon). David and I discussed the challenges facing our environment and the difficulties that often stem from misunderstandings of the Bible's creation story in Genesis 1. David and I followed a structure in our conversation called the "Wesleyan Quadrilateral" which defines a process of thinking through social/cultural/theological issues asking a series of questions. 1) What does the Bible say? 2) What is the tradition of the church? 3) What is my experience in this topic and 4) What would be in accord with human reason? These questions don't solve problems necessarily but it provides a helpful way to think through things. Here is the link to our discussion notes (which we did not exhaust in any way!).  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SnVOCKtXQ8QXokmgUxrF4NjYokOKDIyQ75bhXcQJ_ek/edit?usp=sharing

    1h 10m

  8. 02/11/2020

    BC 2.10 The Bible and Immigration: Part Two A conversation with Vicky Vetter and Karl Kroger

    This is the second half of the conversation I had recently with Vicky Vetter and Karl Kroger. Vicky is the Director of Student Ministries at Legacy United Methodist Church in Bismarck ND. She's very involved in helping resettle and educate immigrants in the Bismarck area. Karl is the Senior Pastor of Grace United Methodist Church in Piedmont SD and has been passionate about immigration and refugees. In 2013, Karl, along with students from Bethlehem Bible College, helped minister to Syrian refugees in Jordan.  We're still following what we call the STER analysis: Scripture, Tradition, Experience and Reason. This is often called the Wesleyan Quadrilateral. Its simply a way of working through theological/ethical issues asking the questions: 1) What does Scripture teach?, 2) What is the tradition of the church?, 3) What is my experience here and 4) what seems to be in accord with the common sense dictates of human reason. In this episode, Karl talks about his experiences with immigrants and refugees and helps us think through ways we might be able to either advocate for and being involved with these issues. If you haven't listened to the previous episode, you'll really need to back up and do that. This episode is completely dependent on that one. There we discussed Scripture, tradition and Vicky's experience with immigrants in the Bismarck area. In this episode, Karl will discuss his experience and lead us in a conversation about helpful ways forward.  Again, The Bible and Immigration Part Two: A Conversation with Vicky Vetter and Karl Kroger.

    28 min
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This podcast is an honest conversation about difficult aspects of the Bible to seek understanding that leads to enhanced faith and deepened discipleship. Cover art photo provided by JFL on Unsplash: https://unsplash.com/@wallsbyjfl

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  • Creator
    Joel Allen
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2020
  • Episodes
    42
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © Joel Allen
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