Blue Sky

Bill Burke

Hosted by Bill Burke, founder of The Optimism Institute, this weekly podcast will feature inspiring leaders, authors, researchers, and big thinkers who are taking on some of our world's toughest challenges with an infectious sense of optimism. Blue Sky takes its name from the meditation reminder that there's always blue sky above, sometimes you just have to get your head above the clouds to see it.

  1. Amy King's Innovative and Optimistic Approach to Solving Homelessness in America

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    Amy King's Innovative and Optimistic Approach to Solving Homelessness in America

    Amy King watched the devastating aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and seeing people sheltered in a leaking football stadium inspired her to work with her husband on shelter solutions.  The result was Pallet, a company that makes safe, secure, and easily assembled temporary shelters.  In this episode she shares her inspiring story and details about her remarkable company.    Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Amy King and Pallet  This chapter introduces Amy King, founder and CEO of Pallet, a public benefit corporation addressing homelessness.  02:07 From Child Psychology to Social Enterprise  Amy King shares her journey from studying child psychology, where she observed the impact of troubled homes, to founding Pallet. Her interest in people and the influence of early experiences shaped her path toward addressing societal challenges like homelessness.  04:37 The Genesis of Pallet: From Katrina to Construction  Amy discusses how her husband's construction company accidentally led them to employ individuals from the justice system, many of whom had experienced homelessness.   07:19 Public Benefit Corporation Model  Amy explains why Pallet operates as a public benefit corporation rather than a nonprofit, emphasizing its dual mission of workforce development and providing shelter.   11:13 Pallet Shelters and Deployment Strategy  Amy describes the innovative design of Pallet shelters—lightweight, panelized, and quick to assemble, with features like heat, AC, and easy cleaning. She details Pallet's partnership with cities and Zillow to identify and utilize vacant public land for shelter villages, which are temporary and designed for easy relocation.  15:35 The Transformative Impact of Pallet Shelters  Amy elaborates on how Pallet shelters provide more than just a roof, offering a managed care environment with wraparound services for mental health, substance use, and housing placement. This stability allows individuals to engage with services and break the cycle of homelessness, as exemplified by a tenant named Matthew.  20:29 Hope for Ending Homelessness & Political Challenges  Amy discusses Pallet's broad reach across the US and Canada and her controversial but hopeful view on ending homelessness. She addresses the political complexities and the need for sufficient services and innovation to address root causes, moving towards 'functional zero' homelessness.  25:57 Disaster Relief and Versatile Solutions  Amy highlights Pallet's role in disaster relief, noting the political challenges of working with organizations like FEMA and the need for non-congregate shelter solutions. She explains the versatility of Pallet's product, which can be repurposed for both disaster response and homelessness, providing flexibility for communities.  31:10 Economic Viability and Community Recovery  Amy discusses the economic benefits of using Pallet shelters for disaster relief, contrasting them with expensive hotel stays and emphasizing the importance of keeping residents near their communities for recovery. This approach helps maintain local economic bases and encourages volunteer participation by providing convenient housing for relief workers.  34:19 Transformative Impact on Individuals and Families  Amy shares her favorite part of the work: witnessing the profound transformation of individuals who gain employment and stability through Pallet. She emphasizes how this not only changes the lives of the employees, many of whom were formerly incarcerated or homeless, but also reunites and positively impacts their families, especially their children.  38:46 Getting Involved with Pallet  Amy encourages listeners to get involved with Pallet by reaching out through their website or email to support their mission. She emphasizes the value of local constituent engagement in driving political conversations and understanding community stakeholders to expand their impact.

    42 min
  2. Empathy Expert Mimi Nicklin Explains Why and How She's Optimistically Attacking the World's Empathy Deficit

    12/17/2025

    Empathy Expert Mimi Nicklin Explains Why and How She's Optimistically Attacking the World's Empathy Deficit

    Mimi Nicklin left a successful career as a marketing executive to take on the task of educating the world on the value and power of empathy.  In this episode, Mimi describes the alarming "empathy deficit," its root causes, and practical strategies like self-empathy and "ALUR" (Authenticity, Listening, Understanding, Recognition) that she espouses to reconnect our workplaces and world.    Chapters: 00:00 Mimi Nicklin's Global Journey  Mimi Nicklin, a British native, has spent nearly two decades living and working across Asia Pacific and the Middle East, finding her passion and purpose in this part of the world. Her extensive international travel and diverse cultural experiences have significantly shaped her perspective on human connection and understanding, laying the groundwork for her specialization in empathy.  04:19 The Empathy Lightbulb Moment  Mimi's journey into empathy began when a business coach questioned if her leadership style was intuition or empathy, sparking a personal revelation. This led her to discover the 'empathy deficit,' a significant societal issue that no one seemed to be addressing in 2019, prompting her to dedicate her work to this crucial topic.  08:56 Causes of Empathy Deficit  Empathy has declined by 48% in the last 30 years, a critical issue for human survival, not just thriving. Mimi identifies urbanization, digitization, and overwhelming stress and anxiety as the primary root causes of this global empathy deficit, which impacts our ability to access empathetic parts of the brain.  12:32 Connectivity Paradox and Fear  Despite increased physical proximity in cities and the promise of social media, people feel more disconnected and lonely than ever, a paradox Mimi attributes to a fundamental lack of understanding. This disconnection is largely driven by subconscious fear, exacerbated by the constant influx of overwhelming information from 24/7 news, leading people to retreat into their 'tribes' for safety.  17:13 The Power of Self-Empathy  Mimi introduces 'self-empathy' as a crucial, yet untrending, skill for understanding oneself and managing overwhelming external information. She shares a personal example of choosing not to watch the news to protect her mental well-being, emphasizing that this ability to understand personal limits is vital in a world largely beyond individual control.  22:10 Balancing Humanism and Capitalism  Mimi argues that balancing humanism and capitalism is not difficult but underutilized, emphasizing that growth and profit can and should go hand-in-hand with human well-being. She highlights that organizations with engaged and empathetic cultures achieve higher profits, engagement, and innovation, underscoring that humanism is a driver of business success, not an impediment.  25:37 The Art of Listening-Led Leadership  Mimi stresses the critical importance of active, intentional listening in leadership, noting that many leaders are unaware of their own listening deficiencies. True listening, she explains, involves decoding information to understand, rather than merely hearing or preparing a reply, and is fundamental for empathy, innovation, and collaboration within teams.  32:06 Patience, Presence, and Pace  Mimi highlights patience and presence as essential pillars for authentic listening and achieving long-term goals, contrasting them with the modern rush for instant gratification.   34:48 ALUR: Authenticity, Listening, Understanding, Recognition  Mimi introduces her ALUR framework for leadership: Authenticity, Listening, Understanding, and Recognition, emphasizing that authenticity, rooted in patience and presence, is paramount for genuine connection. \  41:39 The Empathy Empire's Impact  Mimi emphasizes the significant financial and human costs of not listening and disengagement, noting that many employees resign due to poor relationships with their bosses. She describes her 'Empathy Empire' through keynote speaking, writing books like 'The Connection Prescription,' masterclasses, and media work, all aimed at fostering global empathy and balancing humanism with technology.

    48 min
  3. Technology Management Expert Paul Leonardi on Why Technology Exhausts Us and What We Can Do About It

    12/10/2025

    Technology Management Expert Paul Leonardi on Why Technology Exhausts Us and What We Can Do About It

    Paul Leonardi is an expert in technology management and has developed a deep understanding for why today's digital tools—even those that are helpful—can contribute to our growing sense of exhaustion.  Pulling from research he's written about in his book Digital Exhaustion, he explains why this happens and as importantly, what we can do about it.    Chapters: 02:00 Why Digital Exhaustion?  Paul Leonardi discusses his 20-year career helping companies implement new technologies and his observation of the increasing dread people feel towards new tools. He highlights how the solutions to digital overload are not working, leading to widespread exhaustion.  04:36 The Types of Digital Switching  Paul explains three kinds of digital switching: between modalities (apps), domains of work, and arenas (work/home). He emphasizes that these switches, though seemingly innocuous, cause significant cognitive strain and mental exhaustion due to the brain's reorientation time.  07:20 Cumulative Exhaustion and Control  Paul explains that digital exhaustion is a cumulative problem, building slowly over time from seemingly small attention switches.   11:29 Expectations and Response Patterns  Paul discusses how people tend to overestimate the urgency of messages and fall into a 'hero symptom' of quick responses, leading to a vicious cycle. He explains how this creates an exhausting game of chase, where individuals try to outdo each other in fast replies.  14:35 Strategies for Managing Expectations  Paul suggests asking for clarity on urgency and adopting a philosophy of 'waiting' (one hour, one day, one week) to reset response patterns. He also highlights the effectiveness of out-of-office messages and direct communication in setting realistic expectations and reducing perceived urgency.  20:59 Measuring Digital Exhaustion  Paul describes his 'Digital Exhaustion' rating, inspired by the Maslach Burnout Inventory, which measures how much digital tools wear people out. He reveals a precipitous rise in digital exhaustion rates from 2002 to 2022, with major spikes in 2010 (smartphones/social media) and 2021 (pandemic).  26:10 Unforced Errors and Self-Views  Paul discusses 'unforced errors' like sleeping with phones in bed and constantly viewing oneself during video calls, which contribute to exhaustion. He explains how the 'self-view' on video platforms is a metaphor for the constant self-curation and inference-making we do across all online platforms, leading to mental fatigue.  31:08 The Exhaustion of Upward Comparison  Paul references a 1950s Stanford study on upward comparison and how social media amplifies this, leading to exhaustion from comparing oneself to others' curated ideal lives. He discusses how AI will further exacerbate this issue by creating unrealistic avatars for comparison.  36:07 Antidotes and Small Wins  Paul suggests taking online content at face value without extrapolating deeper meanings to combat upward comparison and the stories we create.   42:45 Resonance and Pushback  Paul shares that the most pleasing feedback on his book is the distinction between a sustainable approach to digital exhaustion versus unsustainable digital detoxes. The main pushback he receives is about the 'waiting' strategy, with people fearing it will make them seem impolite or ghosting.

    47 min
  4. Guy Kawasaki Describes Working with Steve Jobs and Other Remarkable People Who've Used Optimism as a Strategic Advantage

    12/03/2025

    Guy Kawasaki Describes Working with Steve Jobs and Other Remarkable People Who've Used Optimism as a Strategic Advantage

    Guy Kawasaki has had an amazing life and career.  After growing up in Hawaii, he went to California for college and later went on to what was then known as Apple Computer where he was a self-described "brand evangelist" during some of their highest growth and most entrepreneurial years.  He describes Steve Jobs as being optimistic almost to the point of being delusional, and working for him has inspired Guy to be interested in mold-breaking people ever since, hence the name of his popular podcast, Remarkable People. He has also written 17 books on a variety of subjects, his latest being Wiser Guy, which was released earlier this year.    Chapters: 00:00 Welcome to Blue Sky  Bill Burke introduces Guy Kawasaki as a remarkable guest on Blue Sky, highlighting Guy's background as chief evangelist at Apple and Canva, and his extensive writing. Guy shares his preference for being a podcast guest due to less prep work, contrasting with the host's five-hour preparation time.  03:10 From Hawaii to Stanford  Guy recounts his childhood in Kalihi Valley, a lower-middle-income part of Hawaii, and how a public school teacher's advice led him to a private school, then Stanford. He describes feeling immediately at home at Stanford in 1972, despite it being pre-tech, and the campus's amazing atmosphere.  06:17 Apple, Steve Jobs & the 1984 Ad  Guy discusses his two stints at Apple, particularly his time in the Macintosh division under Steve Jobs from 1983 to 1987. He reveals the Macintosh team's mission to preserve democracy and freedom through computing and shares the behind-the-scenes story of the iconic 1984 Super Bowl ad, which the board initially wanted to pull.  11:49 Evangelizing Apple & Sales Skills  Guy details how Apple evangelized its new operating system in the 1980s through fervor rather than just money, contrasting with the corporate image of IBM. He also shares his 'checkered past' of dropping out of medical, dental, and law school, leading him to an MBA and invaluable sales experience in the jewelry business, which he considers essential.  17:02 Steve Jobs: Visionary & Demanding  Guy describes working for Steve Jobs as the most formative experience of his career, calling Jobs a visionary and passionate, albeit demanding and intimidating, leader. He emphasizes that Jobs was a 'mission-driven egoist' who cared only about making the best computer, disregarding personal biases like race or gender.  23:01 Remarkable People Podcast Origins  Guy explains his decision to start the 'Remarkable People' podcast, initially inspired by the lucrative ad model of another podcaster, and his realization that his access to remarkable individuals and business experience uniquely positioned him. He highlights the strategic advantage of having prominent guests like Jane Goodall to attract others.  30:08 Jane Goodall: A Source of Hope  Guy recounts his personal connection to Jane Goodall, stemming from a TEDx interview, and how she became his first podcast guest. He describes her as the most remarkable person he's interviewed, embodying hope and tireless dedication to her cause, even declining a rest offer at 90 due to 'too much to do.'  36:30 Optimism as a Strategic Advantage  Guy discusses optimism as a strategic advantage, asserting that it's crucial for achieving anything significant, combining realism with the belief that challenges can be overcome. He shares his experiences of taking up ice hockey at 44 and surfing at 60, attributing it to a 'growth mindset' and the belief that one is never too old to learn new things.

    45 min
  5. Could Venture Capital Invest in World Peace? Guest Brian Abrams Has Set Out to Do Just That

    11/26/2025

    Could Venture Capital Invest in World Peace? Guest Brian Abrams Has Set Out to Do Just That

    We all know that huge sums of money are invested in creating new, more effective weapons of war.  Brian Abrams sees an opportunity to invest instead in what he calls "peace tech," emerging businesses using technologies and creative methods designed to prevent war from happening in the first place. He's created a new firm, B Ventures, and in this Blue Sky episode he describes with infectious optimism his exciting vision for the future.    Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Brian Abrams  Bill Burke introduces Brian Abrams, founder of B Ventures Group, an investment fund focused on global peacebuilding and conflict resolution through "peace tech." Brian's extensive background in managing over $1 billion in assets and his human-centric investment philosophy are highlighted.  02:09 From Founder to Venture Capitalist  Brian shares his career journey, starting as an entrepreneur in India where he experienced failure, which led him to realize his strength in spotting opportunities rather than operationalizing them. He then transitioned to venture capital in Israel, building a fund from $2 million to over $1.2 billion, emphasizing the role of luck and a pivotal moment in fostering peace initiatives.  08:28 The Genesis of Peace Tech  Brian reflects on his past experiences, including a startup's condition to include Palestinian teammates during an acquisition, which planted the seed for his current work. He explains his philosophy of using money to serve people and approaching problems from a bottom-up perspective, leading him to focus on peace tech as an alternative to military tech.  10:17 The Rationale for Peace Tech  Drawing inspiration from Thich Nhat Hanh's philosophy of 'interbeing,' Brian articulates why war is illogical and a form of collective self-harm. He emphasizes the enormous economic cost of violent conflict, totaling $19 trillion annually, and how venture capital's bottom-up, experimental approach can offer innovative solutions for peacebuilding.  15:28 AI in Crisis Simulation  Brian describes an investment in a startup founded by a Harvard researcher who developed an AI-powered crisis simulation platform. This technology aims to anticipate and prevent future conflicts, like potential World War III over Taiwan, by running thousands of scenarios daily, far exceeding traditional war games.  21:32 Business Model for Peace Tech  Brian explains the twofold business model for peace tech startups: selling to friendly governments and to companies for competitive landscape analysis. He emphasizes that a for-profit model ensures scalability and continuous funding, unlike grants, allowing for exponential growth and a virtuous cycle to prevent major conflicts.  29:23 Peace Tech: Agile and Ethical  Brian highlights the agility of venture-backed peace tech companies compared to traditional government or academic initiatives, citing an example of a startup rapidly forming after the dismantling of the US Institute of Peace. He defines peace tech as anything that preempts, mitigates, or resolves violent conflict, adhering to a 'first do no harm' principle.  34:26 Peace Tech Investments and Ecosystem  Brian discusses additional investments, including a company creating digital twins of societies to understand and model civil conflicts like those between Armenia and Azerbaijan. He describes the growing Peace Tech ecosystem, drawing parallels to the private space industry's exponential growth, and aims to build a global community of founders and investors.  41:12 Conclusion and Call to Action  Bill Burke reflects on how technology's ability to show the grim reality of war might increase the fervent desire for peace. Brian encourages listeners to connect via LinkedIn and join the Peace Tech community, expressing his strong optimism for the future impact of this movement.

    47 min
  6. Scott Nash Reflects on His Remarkable Career Marked by Curiosity, Experimentation, and Optimism

    11/19/2025

    Scott Nash Reflects on His Remarkable Career Marked by Curiosity, Experimentation, and Optimism

    Blue Sky host Bill Burke first met Scott Nash nearly 30 years ago, when both were working in the cable television business.  In the years since, Scott has gone on to a successful career in publishing, both as an illustrator and an author, and with his wife Nancy co-founded Illustration Institute on a small island in Maine.  In this episode, Scott describes his outgoing, experimental, and optimistic nature and how these traits have led to his remarkable success in publishing, art direction, and non-profit entrepreneurship.     Chapters:   00:00 Introduction & Early Childhood  Scott shares that he moved nine times before second grade, which taught him to make new friends and thrive on connection, fueling his optimism and artistic development.  03:47 Education and Early Career  Scott Nash discusses his education at the Swain School of Design and Cranbrook, an experimental school that shaped his playful approach to design.   09:05 Early Days of Cable TV  Scott highlights how their 'handmade' approach to branding for networks like Nickelodeon, which included assigning the color orange and constantly changing logos, stood out in an industry that traditional executives weren't taking seriously.  14:20 The Flat Stanley Phenomenon  Scott Nash discusses his work illustrating Flat Stanley, a book that became a widespread educational phenomenon due to teachers encouraging kids to create and mail their own Flat Stanley figures.   19:16 Illustrating vs. Writing Own Books  Scott Nash reflects on the differences and joys of illustrating books for other authors, like Flat Stanley, versus writing and illustrating his own works, such as The High Skies Adventures of Blue Jay the Pirate.   23:05 Defining Illustration & Illustration Institute's Founding  Scott Nash defines illustration as 'visual art that enhances a specific narrative,' encompassing comics, graphic novels, and even narrative pottery. He explains how his passion for academia and 'rogue schools' led him to establish the illustration department at Maine College of Art and, later, co-found the Illustration Institute.  31:19 Highlighting Illustrators & Their Impact  Scott Nash shares his love for classic children's book illustrators like Garth Williams, known for Stuart Little and Homer Price, and Robert McCloskey, famous for Make Way for Ducklings. He recounts the emotional and intellectual impact of Illustration Institute's exhibitions, which showcase original works and highlight the often-uncredited illustrators behind beloved stories.  34:27 AI's Impact on Creativity and Authenticity  Scott Nash discusses the cyclical nature of creative trends, noting a shift from highly creative, handmade works in the early days of cable to a more corporate, homogenized phase. He expresses critical optimism about AI, hoping it will spur a countertrend towards more authentic, handmade creations.  39:59 Ethical Concerns and Public Voice in AI  Scott Nash expresses concern about the business-driven rush to implement AI without a clear ethical framework, fearing it could lead to low-quality content and potential harm if not properly regulated.   42:45 Future of Illustration Institute & Closing  Scott Nash details the Illustration Institute's future plans, including developing traveling exhibitions for libraries across the country, such as 'The Great State of Illustration in Maine' and the ambitious 'Illustrious Saurus,' which explores dinosaur depictions from paleontology to fantasy. He emphasizes the institute's mission to highlight illustration's critical rigor and broad appeal, connecting Maine's artistic reach with global themes and sharing his childlike enthusiasm for storytelling.

    50 min
  7. Phil Green on the Impactful and Inspiring Work He Does for Young Musicians and His Hometown of Oakland

    11/12/2025

    Phil Green on the Impactful and Inspiring Work He Does for Young Musicians and His Hometown of Oakland

    Phil Green has had a successful career in music and sports.  For what he describes as his "third act," Phil is now overseeing Follow the Music, a nonprofit in his hometown of Oakland, California.   Follow the Music provides artist development, booking and management services to young artists — to shine a light on their talents and bring visibility to the programs that helped develop them.     Chapters: 00:00 Introducing Phil Green and Follow the Music  Bill Burke introduces Phil Green, co-founder of Follow the Music, an organization dedicated to fostering young musical talent in Oakland. Phil's extensive background in sports and music, including managing Grammy winner Fantastic Negrito, led him to create this non-profit.  02:05 From Ronnie Lott's Idea to Follow the Music  Phil Green shares how a conversation with NFL Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott about a new venue sparked the idea for Follow the Music.   04:32 Fantastic Negrito's Journey and Industry Lessons  Phil recounts the incredible comeback story of Fantastic Negrito, who achieved Grammy success at 50 after a major label dropped him and a severe accident. This experience highlighted the music industry's challenges and the importance of artists finding their unique voice, shaping Phil's current work with young people.  08:33 The Genesis and Mission of Follow the Music  Phil elaborates on the founding of Follow the Music, emphasizing its mission to help young artists follow their true passions and express their authentic selves.   11:57 Supporting Young Artists and Community  Phil explains how Follow the Music collaborates with institutions like the Oakland School for the Arts to develop and showcase young musicians. By leveraging his connections, Phil creates high-visibility opportunities for these artists at major festivals and sporting events, helping them navigate the competitive music landscape.  15:15 Inspiring Hope Through Youthful Energy  Phil describes Follow the Music as more than just artist development; it's about connecting the Bay Area to support music education and celebrating the vibrant spirit of young artists. He believes their courage and vulnerability offer hope and inspiration in a divided world, marking his 'third act' dedicated to empowering the next generation.  23:17 Oakland Rising at the Kennedy Center  Phil shares the powerful story of Oakland Rising's performance at the Kennedy Center, where the group faced a dilemma due to prior boycotts. Half the band chose to perform as a trio, displaying incredible grace and mutual support despite differing opinions, delivering a stunning and emotionally charged performance.  27:39 Resilience and Reinvention in Oakland  Phil addresses the challenges faced by Oakland, including the departure of major sports teams, but emphasizes the city's pride and resilience. He expresses optimism about the burgeoning arts and culture scene and new community-focused sports teams like the Oakland Ballers, which are rebuilding the city's vibrant spirit from the ground up.  31:16 Music's Transformational Power and Life Skills  Phil clarifies that Follow the Music's primary goal isn't just to produce professional musicians but to illuminate the transformational power of music for personal growth. He highlights how music education, much like sports, teaches discipline, teamwork, and perseverance, filling a vital gap in youth development.  36:18 Future Vision and Lasting Impact  Phil sees Follow the Music as a model for other cities, aiming to uplift existing music education programs rather than replicate them. He reflects on the deep personal reward of helping young people navigate the future through music, emphasizing that the impact on their lives has far surpassed his initial expectations.

    43 min
  8. Stacy Palmer on Nonprofits and the Role Optimism Plays in Moving Them Forward

    11/05/2025

    Stacy Palmer on Nonprofits and the Role Optimism Plays in Moving Them Forward

    Stacy Palmer leads The Chronicle of Philanthropy, the leading journal in the world of nonprofits.  In this Blue Sky conversation, she talks about the evolution of nonprofits into sophisticated organizations that do remarkable work around the world.  She describes the role of donors large and small, and how they're helping address challenges created by cuts in government funding.  Stacy also shares her belief that nothing gets done in this space without a healthy dose of optimism.    Chapters: 02:04 Origins of the Chronicle of Philanthropy  Stacy Palmer discusses the founding of The Chronicle of Philanthropy, explaining how the professionalization and growth of the nonprofit sector created a need for a dedicated publication.   05:09 Motivation and Evolution of Philanthropy  Stacy shares what inspires her in philanthropy, emphasizing the drive to make a difference and adapt to new global challenges like climate change.   07:14 Mega-Philanthropists and Giving Trends  Stacy discusses the significant growth of wealth and the rise of mega-philanthropists like Bill and Melinda Gates, who are making record-setting donations during their lifetimes. She also notes the concerning trend of a precipitous drop in the percentage of Americans who give to charity, now less than 50%.  09:50 Ted Turner's Impact on Giving  Bill Burke recalls Ted Turner's billion-dollar donation to the UN and his challenge to other billionaires, including Bill Gates, to give more. Stacy confirms Turner's inspiration for the mega-philanthropy boom and the Chronicle's tradition of ranking top givers, an idea Ted championed.  12:15 American Philanthropy vs. Government Aid  Stacy explains the strong American tradition of charitable giving and volunteering, partly due to fewer government social services compared to European countries. She addresses whether individual giving can fill gaps left by government cuts, noting that while people respond generously, philanthropic funds are tiny compared to government provisions.  14:05 Nonprofits in Media and Entrepreneurship  Stacy highlights the innovation possible in nonprofits and emphasizes that optimism is crucial for founders, who are a form of entrepreneur believing change is possible even when facing long-term, complicated problems.  18:02 Optimism in Nonprofit Work  She notes that almost all people in this field are optimists, tempered by reality, who believe individuals and collective efforts can make a difference.  20:09 Nonprofits Now Podcast & Burnout  Stacy discusses her podcast, Nonprofits Now, which focuses on advice from nonprofit leaders to combat burnout, a common issue in the field.   25:01 Challenges and Volunteerism  Stacy addresses the inherent grind of nonprofit work due to long-term, complex problems and the perception that it's not a 'serious' career.   31:37 MacKenzie Scott's Philanthropic Model  Stacy details MacKenzie Scott's unique philanthropic approach, characterized by surprise, no-strings-attached gifts to often overlooked organizations. She highlights Scott's rigorous vetting process and the transformative impact of unrestricted funds, which combat nonprofit burnout caused by restrictive grants and overhead limitations.  39:39 Future Trends in Philanthropy  Stacy forecasts a surge in charitable giving as communities experience the impact of service cuts, driving both individuals and foundations to step up.   45:39 Conclusion and Outreach  Stacy Palmer encourages listeners to find the "Nonprofits Now" podcast and visit philanthropy.com to learn more about the Chronicle of Philanthropy. Bill Burke thanks her for her inspiring insights and commitment to optimism in the nonprofit world, urging listeners to rate and subscribe to the Blue Sky Podcast.

    49 min
4.8
out of 5
43 Ratings

About

Hosted by Bill Burke, founder of The Optimism Institute, this weekly podcast will feature inspiring leaders, authors, researchers, and big thinkers who are taking on some of our world's toughest challenges with an infectious sense of optimism. Blue Sky takes its name from the meditation reminder that there's always blue sky above, sometimes you just have to get your head above the clouds to see it.

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