Brave & Big

Joey Odom
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What if you could live a Brave and Big life? One where you have great friends, a thriving marriage, a plan to accomplish your goals; a life where you’re fit, spiritually healthy, and constantly becoming everything God created you to be.Welcome to Brave & Big. We are Chris Hart, founder and CEO of Brave Coaches, and Joey Odom, public speaker, author, and former tech co-founder, and we have been friends for over 25 years. Throughout our friendship, we have had thousands of conversations, have gotten better from each one, and want you to be part of those conversations. We’ll talk about what it means to be Brave and live Big - things like grit, living with no excuses, following Jesus, being a great parent, spouse, and friend. Sometimes it will just be the two of us and sometimes it will be high performing athletes, business leaders, and performers. At the end of each episode, you will walk away with a small step that you can immediately implement to take ground in your life.We’re glad you’re here. Let’s be Brave & live Big.

  1. 5h ago

    Leadership: How to Be a Leader Worth Following

    Pastor Bill Scheer looked at a twenty-year-old Chris Hart and said something that changed the trajectory of his life: you can't make a mess I can't clean up. That's what a leader does. They take someone somewhere they couldn't get on their own. Joey Odom and Chris open this episode with a simple reframe: start looking at every facet of your life through the lens of leadership. Not just the boardroom, but the grocery store, the sideline at your kid's game, the dinner table tonight. Because the world is looking for someone to follow, and the question isn't whether you have a title. It's whether you're worth following. From there they get practical. Chris walks through the questions that reveal how you actually lead: what naturally flows out of you, what energizes you, what drains you, and then the two big ones, what's your uniqueness and what's your eliteness. Most people can't name theirs because it's so innate they assume everyone has it. He tells the story of a five-foot-three boat captain in Cabo who, after four hours of catching nothing, refused to go chase small fish. Then they close on the three things every leader owes the people following them: support, confidence, and hope. In this episode: — Leadership as influence: taking people where they couldn't go alone  — Why the evidence of real leadership is trust and confidence in the people following you  — Three questions to find your lane: what flows, what energizes, what drains  — Uniqueness and eliteness, and why your superpower is the thing you assume everyone has  — On this boat, we catch Marlin: the case for refusing to chase small fish  — Position vs. posture, and why leaders out front are the ones who take the hit  — If you're not in your lane yet, be great where you are and watch where it leads  — Support, confidence, hope: how to infuse courage, because good leaders build leaders  — Why presence becomes a leader's superpower in the age of AI  — The elevation shift: driveway, rooftop, helicopter, 30,000 feet This week's small step: Answer two questions for yourself. What's your uniqueness, the thing you do that most people don't? And what's your eliteness, the thing others do that you simply do better? Then take your answers to someone you trust and ask whether they agree, or what they'd add. It's a few minutes of reflection that can change how you show up in every room. Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE Pastor Bill Scheer. Andy Stanley on wisdom as the recognition that everything in life is connected. Victor Wembanyama's confidence with the Spurs down 3-1 in the 2026 NBA Finals. The idea that we suffer more in imagination than in reality (commonly attributed to Seneca). Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  2. 6d ago

    Technology and Relationships: How to Become a 1% Family

    Joey Odom looked down at his phone and missed his five-year-old's first soccer goal, and the moment his son turned to the sideline to find his face. That miss reframed everything, and it opens this conversation about technology, attention, and the relationships that actually matter. Joey, who co-founded a company built entirely around changing our relationship with technology, makes a case that's more hopeful than the usual doom: our least valuable relationship, the one with our phones, has the greatest impact on our most valuable relationships. And that relationship is something you can edit. He and Chris Hart get honest about their own convictions (the "daddy, watch me" moments, reading a bedtime story with one eye on a screen) and name what's actually at stake, from loneliness and isolation to phones dulling our ability to feel and AI dulling our ability to think. Then it gets practical and doable. Start with the mirror, not your kids. Watch the 3M parent trap (you model a bad relationship, your kids mimic it, then you get mad at them for it). Get aligned with your spouse. Set one sacred time and one sacred place that stay phone-free. And when someone you love says "watch this," put the phone down and mean it. In this episode: — Why your least valuable relationship has the greatest impact on your most valuable ones  — The good news hidden inside "Dad, you're on your phone too much"  — Why proximity is the whole ballgame (91% of us keep our phones on us around the clock)  — How phones dull our ability to feel deeply and AI dulls our ability to think deeply  — The isolation trap, and why the promise of connection so often leaves us lonelier  — The 3M parent trap: model, mimic, mad, and how to break it  — Sacred times and sacred places: one of each, phone-free, to change the culture of your home  — The date-night phone swap, and the six words that tell someone they matter more than your screen This week's small step: For the next seven days, spend 20 minutes a day physically distant from your phone. Not in sight, not on your body. Anchor it to something better: quiet time, a family show, a walk around the block. Treat it like a muscle and build from there. (For scale: two hours a day of distance would hand you back a full month of your year.) Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE Jonathan Haidt, The Anxious Generation, and his 2026 TED talk on AI. The idea of cognitive offloading. Blaise Pascal on our inability to sit quietly in a room alone. Stranger Things (the Vecna and "Mr. Sandman" illustration). Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  3. Jul 14

    Vision: You Can’t Build a Life You Can’t See

    Plenty of people have sight and no vision. Joey Odom and Chris Hart spend this episode on the difference, and on the fact that vision isn't reserved for the naturally visionary. It's something you can go get. They start with blind Bartimaeus on the roadside in Mark 10. When he starts calling out for Jesus, the crowd tells him to be quiet, and he gets louder. Chris makes the case that this is where vision actually begins: refusing to let other people's voices (or your own pride, or your fear of looking foolish) talk you out of asking for something big. Bartimaeus threw off the beggar's garment before he was healed, because he knew he wasn't going back. Then it turns practical. David didn't see himself as a shepherd boy with a slingshot, he saw himself as someone who had already killed a lion and a bear, and Goliath was simply the next thing standing between him and the vision. So you take inventory of what you've already overcome. And once vision shows up, you protect it, because where there's no vision, people cast off restraint. Chris lays out four guardrails every person needs, and the guys close on writing the vision down so plainly that other people can read it and run. In this episode: — Vision as imagination plus wisdom, and why both halves matter  — Bartimaeus and the courage to get louder when people tell you to be quiet  — Why pride and the fear of embarrassment quietly kill vision, especially once you've had some success  — How Chris got a chunk of his own vision on day four of a fast, and what happened two weeks later  — Why vision turns opposition into opportunity  — The lions and the bears: taking inventory of what God has already brought you through  — You're a giant killer, and the giants worth naming (generational patterns, addiction, a lid at work, a lie your kid believes)  — Four guardrails to protect the vision: the opposite sex, what you consume, your devices, and money  — Vision, strategy, tactics: where you're going, how you'll get there, and what you do today This week's small step: For the next seven days, take 30 minutes each morning with the distractions killed. Ask God for vision, personally and professionally, and write down what comes. It may not be the full picture yet, but write down what you get and let it start pulling you. Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW  If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE Blind Bartimaeus (Mark 10). David and Goliath (1 Samuel 17). Habakkuk 2:2 (write the vision and make it plain). Proverbs 29:18 (where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint). Helen Keller on sight without vision. Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  4. Jul 7

    Effort Is a Talent: David Pollack on Making Every Day Count

    When David Pollack broke his neck on an NFL field, the career he'd chased since he was four years old ended in a single moment. What he found in the stillness became the message he carries now: every day counts, and how you respond is the only part you actually control. Joey Odom and Chris Hart sit down with David, a College Football Hall of Famer, longtime ESPN College GameDay analyst, and author of Every Day Counts, for a conversation about effort, faith, and family. He breaks down his 50/40/10 idea (you can outwork half the field and out-detail most of the rest, so heart becomes the separator), makes the case that effort itself is a talent you can develop, and gets honest about how chasing football as his god set him up to rebuild his life on something sturdier. Then it turns practical and personal: leading at home by serving instead of being served, the one question that beats "how are you?", and why he refuses to let sports become the thing his whole family revolves around. In this episode: — What David found in the stillness after a career-ending neck injury: sport makes a poor god — Why he refuses to be a "why me" person, and how focusing on your response changes everything — The 50/40/10 idea: outwork half, out-detail most, and let heart separate the rest — "Effort is a talent," and how removing the fear of failure unlocks it — Starting where your feet are: the unglamorous grind behind the GameDay chair — Leading at home by serving, and the question that beats "how are you?" (try "what are you out of 10?") — "Decisions over choices": settle who you are in advance so the daily calls get easy — Why sports shouldn't become the family's god, and keeping time together and church non-negotiable This week's small step: Before bed, text yourself or a friend three non-negotiables for tomorrow. Not things you hope to do, things you will do. Knock them out early before the day gets loud, and make at least one of them count for someone you love. Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com MORE FROM DAVID POLLACK Book: Every Day Counts Podcast: See Ball Get Ball with David Pollack https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTTr9cTfU2qhiIOiWVYQCSoEwIRdmm44z Speaking and more: davidpollack.com Instagram: @davidpollack47 X: @davidpollack47 Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  5. Jun 30

    Stewardship: The Four Word Question That Changes Everything

    Years ago Chris Hart asked Joey Odom a four-word question that Joey has asked himself hundreds of times since: what's in your hand? This episode is built around it, and around the principle that quietly changes everything once it lands. Increase always follows stewardship. The word goes back to the steward of a medieval estate, someone trusted with everything and owner of nothing, measured by a single question: did you advance the interests of the one you serve? Joey and Chris make the case that stewardship is actually a higher calling than ownership, because an owner answers to no one while a steward answers for all of it. Then the turn. The thing in your hand right now probably looks ordinary. Moses had a staff he'd carried for 40 years tending someone else's sheep, and God used it to set a nation free. The job you don't love, the body you've got, the marriage in a hard season, the 30 minutes before your kid goes to bed. Steward the small, unglamorous thing well, and the increase follows. In this episode: — The four-word question that reframes everything: what's in your hand?  — Why stewardship is a higher calling than ownership: trusted with it all, owner of none  — Moses' ordinary staff, and why your avenue is usually the thing already in your hand  — The parable of the talents, and why increase always follows stewardship  — "You're not stuck, you're stewarding": a reframe for the job or season you resent  — Why comparison disqualifies you, like leaving your race to go chase someone else's  — The healthy tension between ambition and stewardship, and how either one alone leads to stagnation  — Stewarding your time, your body, the hard things, and the moments with your kids that don't come back This week's small step: Pick one personal thing and one professional thing you know you could steward better. Commit to stewarding each one well for the next seven days, and watch for the increase on the other side. Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE Moses and the burning bush (Exodus 3-4). The parable of the talents (Matthew 25). David's path to kingship and Nehemiah rebuilding the wall. The saying "comparison is the thief of joy." Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  6. Jun 23

    Alignment: Find the Wedge That's Keeping You Grounded

    A plane built to fly 600 miles an hour gets stopped cold by one small chock behind the tire. Chris Hart watched it happen on a runway and couldn't shake the question: what's the wedge in my own life? Joey Odom and Chris spend this episode on alignment, and why it's almost always the thing already inside us, not the circumstance around us, that keeps us grounded. They walk through a simple chain: thoughts lead to words, words to actions, actions to habits, and habits to results. So if you don't like the result you're getting, you don't start with the result. You go back and check the alignment of your thoughts. Joey talks about treating your mind like an algorithm that feeds you more of whatever you pause on, and how choosing gratitude actually retrains it. From there they get practical about the teams in your life: friends, family, and work. Are you operating in your strength? Are you clear on your lane? Are you taking ownership of what you've been handed? They close on aligning your faith, naming the one thing that pulls you out of it (fear), and the quiet enemy that takes down teams, marriages, and companies (pride). In this episode: — The wedge: how one small thing grounds a life built to take off  — Why the obstacle is rarely the circumstance and usually yourself  — The chain that runs your life: thoughts, words, actions, habits, results  — Your mind as an algorithm, and how to retrain what it feeds you  — Why alignment makes the assignment possible (1 percent vision, 99 percent alignment)  — Three questions for your work: your strength, your lane, your ownership  — How taking ownership of the small things funnels you into your strengths  — Two questions to align your faith, plus the fear and pride that break alignment This week's small step: Name your wedge, or a result you're getting that you wish were different. They're usually the same thing. Then take it to one person, say it out loud, and decide together how you'll fight to remove it. Sit with it this week before you act. Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE Jim Collins on vision and alignment in visionary companies. James Clear on identity-based habits. Craig Groeschel on going the direction of your most powerful thoughts. The accounts of the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11) and Gideon (Judges 6-7). Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  7. Jun 16

    Grit and Grace: Your Best Effort + Supernatural Power

    You don't have grit or lack it. You do grit. Joey Odom and Chris Hart open this episode by flipping the whole question: grit isn't a trait you're born with, it's a muscle you choose to use, and it's available to every single one of us. They start with the unsexy truth. We romanticize grit as the moment you win a fight, but it actually shows up in the boring, tedious, non-romantic places: the apology you owe, the lawn you mow when you'd rather watch the game, the marriage you stay in when you can't yet see the full picture. Joey reads a 800-page Hamilton biography he hated and walks away with a new picture of his own marriage. Chris gets choked out by a UFC fighter and learns what it means to get comfortable being uncomfortable. Then the turn that makes the episode. Grit on its own becomes all about self. So they land on grit and grace: give it your absolute best, then admit where your best runs out and let God's power fill the gap. Most of us camp on one side or the other. The breakthrough is the rhythm between them. In this episode: — Why "grit is as grit does" reframes the entire question of whether you have it  — Angela Duckworth's formula, and why effort counts twice  — The humility of grit: why starting at the bottom takes more toughness than winning  — What a UFC fighter's "just enough air" teaches about not quitting at 60 percent  — How Joey's dad modeled the humility of grit for his family  — Why your motivation will fade, so you have to keep your "why" close  — Fresh grace every morning: how rest and mercy reset your capacity  — Weakness as a portal to God's power, not a thing to hide This week's small step: Identify one area where you're giving your best and it still doesn't feel like enough. Your kids, your job, a personal discipline. Name it honestly as a weakness, then ask God for grace on it. You're activating grace in addition to your grit, not instead of it. Be Brave. Live Big. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW  If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE  Angela Duckworth, Grit. Carol Dweck's work on fixed vs. growth mindset. Ron Chernow, Alexander Hamilton. 2 Corinthians 12:9 (The Passion Translation). Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

  8. Jun 9

    Balance Is a myth: Building Your Daily Spiritual Rhythms

    Most of us admire other people's discipline and never build our own. Joey Odom and Chris Hart spend this episode on the fix: a daily spiritual rhythm simple enough that you'll actually keep it. Joey grew up in church and somehow never read the Bible all the way through until he was about 40, when a friend's offhand comment finally gave him permission to start. Chris built a 5 a.m. rhythm six years ago and learned the hard way that discipline begets discipline. Between them they walk through what a real daily practice looks like, how it has shifted across seasons of life, and why the goal is not a perfect routine but a sustainable one. Then the heart of it: prayer is not a performance. It is a kid talking to a father who just wants to hear their voice. They get honest about the years they struggled to pray, the simple models that finally unlocked it, and why getting filled up in the morning is the only way you'll have anything to pour out the rest of the day. In this episode: — Why you keep admiring discipline instead of building it, and the one thing that changes that — Chris's five-five-five starting point: read for five, write for five, pray for five — How "discipline begets discipline" lets you stack a spiritual rhythm onto a habit you already have — Why Joey reads a paper Bible in big chunks instead of grabbing the catchy verse — A simple way to pray when you don't know how, built around a father who wants to hear your voice — Be selfish in the morning so you can be selfless all day — Why a local church is part of the rhythm, not an optional add-on — The five-year journal that turns ordinary days into a record of what God did This week's small step: Pick your wake-up time and protect 20 minutes. Run the five-five-five: read for five, write for five, pray for five. Do it for one week. Then find one person to do it with and text each other a check mark when you finish, so you're building it together instead of alone. Be Brave. Live Big. REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE The Bible Project. The Bible Recap by Tara-Leigh Cobble. Brother Lawrence, The Practice of the Presence of God. James Clear, Atomic Habits. — SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more people with this show. FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com Subscribe, share, and leave us five stars wherever you listen. Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

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What if you could live a Brave and Big life? One where you have great friends, a thriving marriage, a plan to accomplish your goals; a life where you’re fit, spiritually healthy, and constantly becoming everything God created you to be.Welcome to Brave & Big. We are Chris Hart, founder and CEO of Brave Coaches, and Joey Odom, public speaker, author, and former tech co-founder, and we have been friends for over 25 years. Throughout our friendship, we have had thousands of conversations, have gotten better from each one, and want you to be part of those conversations. We’ll talk about what it means to be Brave and live Big - things like grit, living with no excuses, following Jesus, being a great parent, spouse, and friend. Sometimes it will just be the two of us and sometimes it will be high performing athletes, business leaders, and performers. At the end of each episode, you will walk away with a small step that you can immediately implement to take ground in your life.We’re glad you’re here. Let’s be Brave & live Big.

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    Joey Odom
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    2026
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