Brave Together Podcast: Support and Community for Caregiving Parents

Jessica Patay

This is Brave Together Podcast. On Brave Together Podcast, co-hosts Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell and Dr. Zoe Shaw, will share interviews, celebrate stories, explore challenges, and rally hope for the motherhood journey. Through this inspirational and resourceful podcast, may all caregiving parents know that they are not alone. We Are Brave Together is a global nonprofit that creates community for mothers raising children with disabilities, neurodivergence, or complex medical and mental health conditions. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to preserve and protect the mental health of caregiving moms everywhere.

  1. ASK US ANYTHING: The Questions We Were Afraid to Ask

    5d ago

    ASK US ANYTHING: The Questions We Were Afraid to Ask

    Hello Brave Friends! This is an Ask Us Anything episode in which YOU, the listener, get to write or call in and, you guessed it, ask us anything. In this Ask Us Anything episode, #257, we’re responding to the question: “HI LADIES. I know the new book is coming out soon. I am very excited! What's a question you were afraid to ask early on as a mom — and what's the answer you wish someone had given you?” In this heartfelt conversation, Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell, and Dr. Zoe reflect on the fears, grief, uncertainty, and unspoken questions they each carried early in their caregiving journeys. The hosts share personal stories about the questions they were afraid to voice out loud—questions about identity, marriage, loneliness, resentment, joy, the future, and whether they would ever truly feel okay again. Together, they explore how silence and shame can keep caregivers isolated, and why honest conversations and community support are so important. Jessica, Susanna, and Dr. Zoe also discuss the answers they wish someone had given them earlier: that grief and joy can coexist, that perfection is not required, that asking for help is healthy, and that caregivers deserve support and compassion too. Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasize that there is no “perfect” way to navigate caregiving and that vulnerability can become a powerful pathway toward healing and connection. This episode is a tender reminder that many of the questions caregivers are afraid to ask are actually deeply human—and that no one should have to carry those fears alone. Keep the questions coming—we’re here to support you. Whether you’re parenting a child with complex medical, developmental, or mental health needs, or supporting someone who is, we would love to hear from you. We see you and we love you. Find more information about Licensed Psychotherapist, Dr. Zoe here.  Find Dr. Zoe’s book, Stronger in the Difficult Places: Heal Your Relationship with Yourself by Untangling Complex Shame here. Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together, Becoming Brave Together here. Find our second book from We Are Brave Together, Suddenly Brave Together here.  Find FULL episodes and clips of our podcast on Youtube here. Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    45 min
  2. EXPERT: Navigating the Financial Strain of Caregiving with Laurie Magulac

    May 19

    EXPERT: Navigating the Financial Strain of Caregiving with Laurie Magulac

    Hello Brave Friends! Welcome to today's expert episode, #256, with Laurie Magulac, an advocate focused on supporting caregivers navigating the financial realities of raising children with disabilities. These expert episodes feature conversations with professionals and advocates whose work directly supports caregiving parents and families navigating complex needs. In this episode, hosts Jessica Patay and Susanna Peace Lovell sit down with Laurie to discuss the financial challenges many caregivers face when raising children with disabilities. Laurie shares her perspective on the intersection of caregiving, poverty, and public assistance systems, and explains why so many families struggle financially despite working tirelessly to support their children. The conversation explores how caregiving responsibilities can limit employment opportunities, create long-term financial strain, and force families to navigate complicated support systems that are often difficult to understand or access. Laurie also highlights resources available to caregivers, including programs that support student parents and families pursuing education while raising children with disabilities. Jessica and Susanna discuss the emotional impact financial stress can have on families and the stigma that can prevent caregivers from seeking help. Laurie emphasizes that accessing public assistance or community resources is nothing to be ashamed of and encourages families to pursue support systems designed to help them survive and thrive. The discussion also touches on the importance of advocacy, policy change, and collaboration between organizations to create stronger support networks for caregivers. Laurie shares her hope for more accessible, centralized resources and greater public awareness of the financial realities many caregiving families face. This episode is a powerful reminder that caregivers deserve support, safety, and community—and that sharing these stories can help shift public perception and drive meaningful change. Contact Laurie Magulac at lauriewallin@gmail.com  Sign up for one of Laurie’s upcoming in-person or virtual support groups for Moms of Teens here. Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together, Becoming Brave Together here. Find our second book from We Are Brave Together, Suddenly Brave Together here.  Find FULL episodes and clips of our podcast on Youtube here. Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    46 min
  3. A Suddenly Brave Together Episode with Kari Morin

    May 12

    A Suddenly Brave Together Episode with Kari Morin

    Hello Brave Friends! In this special episode, hosts Jessica Patay and Dr. Zoe come together for a deeply personal and heartfelt conversation centered around Suddenly Brave Together, the book co-authored by Jessica Patay, Dr. Zoe, and Kari Morin. This episode explores the emotional journey so many parents experience when life changes unexpectedly—whether through a diagnosis, a medical challenge, or a shift in what we imagined for our families. Jessica shares the inspiration behind the book and the meaning of becoming “suddenly brave”—that moment when you are called to show up in ways you never anticipated. Together, Jessica and Zoe reflect on the complexity of navigating grief, uncertainty, and resilience, while also making space for hope, healing, and connection. They discuss the importance of moving away from a “fix-it” mindset and instead embracing the present moment, honoring both the heartbreak and the beauty that can coexist in this journey. This conversation also highlights the power of community. Through shared stories and vulnerability, parents can find connection, validation, and the reminder that they are not alone. Whether you are at the beginning of your journey or years into it, this episode offers compassion, perspective, and encouragement. You are not broken—you are becoming. Find more about Kari Morin here.  Find more about We Are Brave Together’s second book Suddenly Brave Together here.  Find more about We Are Brave Together’s first book Becoming Brave Together here.  Find more information about Licensed Psychotherapist, Dr. Zoe Shaw here.  Find Dr. Zoe’s book, Stronger in the Difficult Places: Heal Your Relationship with Yourself by Untangling Complex Shame Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    47 min
  4. STORY: Finding Joy in the Challenges of Caregiving with Wendy Ernzen

    May 5

    STORY: Finding Joy in the Challenges of Caregiving with Wendy Ernzen

    Hello Brave Friends! Welcome to today's story episode, #254. These are true stories from a moment in the life of a caregiving parent. We hear a crafted story, and then have a conversation with our guest that goes deeper into their experience. In this episode of the Brave Together podcast, Wendy Ernzen shares her journey raising her daughter Nicola, who lives with autism and bipolar disorder. Wendy reflects on the challenges of navigating complex diagnoses, advocating for the right educational and support systems, and facing moments of crisis that required courage, compassion, and difficult decisions. Through her story, Wendy explores the emotional realities of caregiving, the importance of finding community support, and the critical role of self-care for parents navigating long-term caregiving journeys. She speaks openly about the moments that pushed her family to seek new forms of help and how those experiences ultimately created new pathways toward stability and growth. In the conversation that follows, hosts Jessica Patay and Susanna Peace Lovell discuss with Wendy the importance of compassion when interpreting our children’s behaviors, the need for stronger support systems for families, and how caregivers can find meaning, connection, and small moments of joy even in the most challenging seasons. Wendy’s story is a powerful reminder that caregivers cannot do this work alone—and that community, honesty, and support are essential to sustaining the journey. Find more about Wendy Ernzen here.  Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together here. Find FULL episodes and clips of our podcast on Youtube here. Donate in May to support retreats & scholarships: https://www.wearebravetogether.org/mothers-day Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    49 min
  5. Ask Us Anything: When Your Partner Is in Denial About Your Child’s Diagnosis

    Apr 28

    Ask Us Anything: When Your Partner Is in Denial About Your Child’s Diagnosis

    Hello Brave Friends! This is an Ask Us Anything episode in which YOU, the listener, get to write or call in and, you guessed it, ask us anything. In this Ask Us Anything episode, #253, we’re responding to the question many parents quietly carry: “Hi Brave Together Podcast--What do you do when your partner is in denial about your child's needs?” In this conversation, Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell, and Dr. Zoe Shaw explore the emotional complexity that can arise when parents process a child’s diagnosis differently. The hosts discuss how denial is often rooted in grief, fear, overwhelm, shame, or uncertainty—not a lack of love. They talk about how one parent may be ready to seek services, ask questions, and move into action, while the other may still be struggling to accept what is happening. These different coping styles can create tension, loneliness, resentment, and conflict within a relationship. Jessica, Susanna, and Zoe share personal insight and practical strategies for navigating this difficult dynamic with compassion and resilience. They discuss the importance of communication, empathy, timing, and curiosity over judgment. They also emphasize that support groups, therapy, family counseling, and community connection can be life-changing resources for couples feeling stuck. The conversation also touches on cultural stigma around diagnoses, fears about labels, sibling dynamics, and the importance of advocating for a child’s needs even when parents are not on the same page. The hosts remind listeners that it is okay to have needs, ask for help, and seek support for yourself while your partner works through their own process. This episode is a powerful reminder that parents do not have to process things at the same pace to still move forward together. Keep the questions coming—we’re here to support you. Whether you’re parenting a child with complex medical, developmental, or mental health needs, or supporting someone who is, we would love to hear from you. We see you and we love you. Find more information about Licensed Psychotherapist, Dr. Zoe Shaw here.  Find Dr. Zoe’s book, Stronger in the Difficult Places: Heal Your Relationship with Yourself by Untangling Complex Shame here. Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together here. Find FULL episodes and clips of our podcast on Youtube here. Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    44 min
  6. EXPERT: The Good Sleep Guide for Neurodiverse Children with Dr. Melisa Moore

    Apr 21

    EXPERT: The Good Sleep Guide for Neurodiverse Children with Dr. Melisa Moore

    Hello Brave Friends! Welcome to today's expert episode, #252, with Dr. Melisa Moore, a sleep psychologist who specializes in supporting neurodivergent children and teens. These expert episodes bring conversations with professionals whose work supports caregiving parents and families navigating complex needs. In this episode, hosts Jessica Patay and Susanna Peace Lovell talk with Dr. Moore about the unique sleep challenges many neurodivergent children experience. Dr. Moore explains that neurodiverse brains can process sleep differently, and many sleep struggles are rooted in biology, development, and environmental factors—not parenting mistakes. Dr. Moore shares practical, science-backed strategies to help families improve sleep routines while also encouraging parents to balance ideal recommendations with the realities of daily life. The conversation explores how to recognize when sleep issues may require professional support, how to create sleep environments that support regulation, and how mindset shifts can reduce anxiety around sleep for both parents and children. Jessica and Susanna also discuss the important role sleep plays in emotional regulation, mental health, and overall well-being for neurodivergent youth. Dr. Moore offers compassionate encouragement for caregivers navigating sleep struggles and reminds parents that progress often comes from small, sustainable changes rather than perfect routines. This episode is filled with practical insights and reassurance for families seeking better rest and healthier sleep habits for their children. Find more about Dr. Melisa Moore here.  Find Dr. Melisa Moore’s book, The Good Sleep Guide for Neurodivergent Kids here. Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together her Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    47 min
  7. EXPERT: Navigating Aggression Guilt and Support as a Caregiver with Jennifer Iannuzzi

    Apr 14

    EXPERT: Navigating Aggression Guilt and Support as a Caregiver with Jennifer Iannuzzi

    Hello Brave Friends! Welcome to today’s expert episode, #251, featuring Jennifer Iannuzzi, who joins us for a candid and compassionate conversation about supporting children with behavioral struggles, particularly aggression. These expert episodes are conversations with professionals whose work directly supports caregiving parents. In this episode, hosts Jessica Patay and Susanna Peace Lovell explore the emotional toll that aggressive and dysregulated behaviors can take on caregivers and families. Jennifer speaks openly about the isolation and stigma many parents experience when their child’s behaviors include self-injury or outward aggression. Together, they discuss how guilt and shame often compound the stress caregivers already carry—and why open conversations are essential in reducing stigma and normalizing these very real struggles. The conversation also highlights the importance of building intentional support systems, creating safety plans for caregivers, and recognizing parents as valuable partners in their child’s care. They address the difficult and often misunderstood decisions around residential programs, reframing them not as failures but as thoughtful, loving choices made in pursuit of safety and independence for the child. This episode validates the weight many caregivers carry while offering connection, perspective, and hope. You are not alone in navigating these challenges—and your efforts matter. Find more information about Jennifer Iannuzzi here. Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together here. Find FULL episodes and clips of our podcast on Youtube here. Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    48 min
  8. EXPERT: When OCD Impacts the Whole Family with Dr. Jenn Rapkin

    Apr 7

    EXPERT: When OCD Impacts the Whole Family with Dr. Jenn Rapkin

    Hello Brave Friends! Welcome to today’s expert episode, #250, featuring Dr. Jenn Rapkin, who joins us for a powerful and clarifying conversation about Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). These expert episodes are conversations with professionals whose work directly supports caregiving parents. In this episode, hosts Jessica Patay and Susanna Peace Lovell sit down with Dr. Rapkin to unpack the many misconceptions surrounding OCD and to offer deeper understanding for families navigating intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and compulsive behaviors. Dr. Rapkin shares her perspective not only as a clinician, but also as someone who has personally experienced OCD and as a parent of a child with the condition. Together, they explore how OCD is often misunderstood and trivialized as simply being “neat” or “organized,” when in reality it can significantly disrupt daily life through intrusive thoughts and compulsions—including mental compulsions that may go unnoticed by others. The conversation covers how OCD presents in children, the impact of trauma, and why early recognition and proper diagnosis are so important. Dr. Rapkin explains why Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) is considered the gold standard treatment and what it truly means to sit with discomfort rather than allowing OCD to dictate behavior. She also emphasizes that managing OCD is often a lifelong journey—one that requires compassion, support, and informed care. This episode replaces stigma with understanding and offers practical, hopeful insight for families seeking clarity around OCD. Find more information about Dr. Jenn Rapkin here. Find Jenn’s book, The Feeling Muscle here. Find more information about Life Coach, Susanna Peace Lovell here. Find Susanna’s book, Your True Self is Enough here. Find our first book from We Are Brave Together here. Find FULL episodes and clips of our podcast on Youtube here. Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys.  JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.  Donate to support all of We Are Brave Together's programs and offerings here.  Can’t get enough of the Brave Together Podcast? Follow us on Instagram , Facebook and Youtube.  Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.org  If you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here. Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance! Disclaimer

    44 min

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This is Brave Together Podcast. On Brave Together Podcast, co-hosts Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell and Dr. Zoe Shaw, will share interviews, celebrate stories, explore challenges, and rally hope for the motherhood journey. Through this inspirational and resourceful podcast, may all caregiving parents know that they are not alone. We Are Brave Together is a global nonprofit that creates community for mothers raising children with disabilities, neurodivergence, or complex medical and mental health conditions. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to preserve and protect the mental health of caregiving moms everywhere.

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