Breaking Down: explaining emotions, behaviors, and everything else that makes us human.

Chloe Zahn, LPC, NCC, CTP

Breaking Down is a podcast about all things mental health. With licensed counselor Chloe Zahn, Breaking Down touches on relationships, attachment styles and fears, trauma and how it impacts our daily functioning, the stigmas surrounding mental health, and much more! Stay tuned every Wednesday for more episodes!

  1. JAN 25

    Trauma and Healing: Overcoming Adversity and Building Resilience Part One

    Today’s episode is about trauma and healing. We’ll explore science, lived experiences, and expert wisdom including insights from books like My Grandmother’s Hands, The BodyKeeps the Score, Trauma and Recovery, It Didn’t Start With You, Polyvagal Exercises for Safety and Connection, Healing the Shame That Binds You, No Bad Parts, and No Racial Elephants in the Therapy Room. We will discuss what trauma is or what experiencing trauma can look like, how it may develop, as well as explore what clinical treatment options are available for trauma-based concerns. As always, due to the nature of today’s episode there may be information that is distressing for some listeners. Please feel free to skip this episode and return to the a following one if you experience any symptoms of distress while listening tothis episode. Resources: Adonis, M., Loucaides, M., Sullman, M.J.M. et al. The protective role of self compassion in trauma recovery and its moderating impact on post traumatic symptoms and post traumatic growth. Sci Rep 15, 8145 (2025).⁠https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-025-91819-x⁠ Bradshaw, J. (2015). Healing the shame that binds you. Health Communications, Incorporated. Dana,D., & Porges, S. W. (2020). Polyvagal exercises for safety and connection: 50 client- centered practices. W.W. Norton & Company. Haeyen S. (2024). A theoretical exploration of polyvagal theory in creative arts and psychomotor therapies for emotion regulation in stress and trauma. Frontiers in psychology, 15, 1382007.⁠https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2024.1382007⁠ Herman, J. L. (2020). Trauma and recovery: The aftermath of violence - from domestic abuse to political terror. BasicBooks. Menakem, R. (2021). My grandmother’s hands: Racialized trauma and the pathway to mending our hearts and Bodies. Penguin Books. Schwartz, R. C., Morissette, A., & Mechling, C. (2024). No bad parts: Healing trauma & restoring wholeness with the internal family systems model. PublishDrive. Shapiro, F. (2014). Getting past your past: Take control of your life with self-help techniques from EMDR therapy. Van der Kolk, B. A. (2015). The body keeps the score: Brain, mind, and body in the healing of trauma: Key takeaways, Analysis & Review. Instaread. Walker, R., & Waltman, S. H. (2024). No racial elephants in the therapy room: An unapologetic approach to providing culturally affirming mental health care to black and African American clients. PESI Publishing, Inc., PESI. Walker, P. (2021). Complex PTSD: From surviving to thriving. Azure Coyote. Wolynn, M. (2022). It didn’t start with you the international bestseller - how inherited family trauma shapes who we are and how to end the cycle. Ebury Publishing. Yehuda R, Lehrner A. Intergenerational transmissionof trauma effects: putative role of epigeneticmechanisms. World Psychiatry. 2018 Oct;17(3):243-257. doi:  10.1002/wps.20568.

    40 min
  2. 09/17/2025

    Is AI Replacing Traditional Therapy?

    Today’s episode is about the societal shift towards artificial intelligence. On the one hand, the rising use of artificial intelligence (AI) in various fields including healthcare could potentially alleviate the scarcity and barriers with mental health services. However, with the advancement of AI-driven platforms providing counseling-related information, there is a growing need to assess the efficacy and ethical implications of these technologies in addressing mental health issues. Throughout this episode, I aim to highlight the advantages and disadvantages of artificial intelligence when it comes to mental health care. So, let’s dive right on in and ask yourself, is it possible that AI will replace how we perceive and treat mental health? Resources: Fiske A, Henningsen P, Buyx A (2019). Your Robot Therapist Will See You Now: Ethical Implications of Embodied Artificial Intelligence in Psychiatry, Psychology, and Psychotherapy. JMIR Publications, Volume 21(5). doi: 10.2196/13216 Johnson, Jarvis. “People Are Marrying Their AI.” YouTube, YouTube⁠ www.youtube.com/watchv=XZ7XTTaXfOk&list=PLdtJu1LG7HO3Y93gMyJytMNY69LWx7ZQv&index=1⁠Accessed 6 Sept. 2025. Khawaja, Z., & Bélisle-Pipon,J. C. (2023). Your robot therapist is not your therapist: Understanding the role of AI-powered mental health chatbots. Frontiers in Digital Health, Volume 5⁠https://doi.org/10.3389/fdgth.2023.1278186⁠. Rehman F., & Sajjad S. (2024). MentalHealth in the Digital Age: Comparing AI Counseling with Traditional Counseling among University Students. Journal of Social Sciences and Media Studies (JOSSAMS) Volume 8(2). ISSN: (Print) 2518-8046; (Online) 2663-7049 Zhang, Z., & Wang, J. (2024).Can AI replace psychotherapists? Exploring the future of mental health care? Frontiers in Psychiatry, Volume 15.  ⁠https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyt.2024.1444382⁠ Socials: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/revivecounselingfayetteville/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D⁠

    23 min
  3. 11/08/2023

    Mental Health in the Workplace: Strategies for Well-being and Work-life Balance

    Hello listeners and welcome to Breaking Down where we explain emotions, behaviors, and everything else that makes us human. Today’s episode is about balancing our wellbeing with  a healthy work-life balance. We spend a significant portion of our lives at work, and the state of our mental health and well-being is deeply intertwined with our professional lives. It's crucial for both employees and employers to understand the importance of maintaining mental health in the workplace. In this episode, we'll explore strategies for fostering a mentally healthy work environment and achieving work-life balance. Resources: https://www.instagram.com/revivecounselingfayetteville/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D ⁠https://www.apa.org/topics/healthy-workplaces⁠ Demir, S. (2018). The Relationship between Psychological Capital and Stress, Anxiety, Burnout, Job Satisfaction, and Job Involvement. Eurasian Journal of Educational Research, 75, 137-153. Gragnano, A., Simbula, S., & Miglioretti, M. (2020). Work-Life Balance: Weighing the Importance of Work-Family and Work-Health Balance. International journal of environmental research and public health, 17(3), 907. ⁠https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph17030907⁠ Jermsittiparsert, K., Petchchedchoo, P., Kumsuprom, S., & Panmanee, P. (2021). The impact of the workload on the job satisfaction: Does the job stress matter?. Academy of Strategic Management  Journal, 20, 1-13. Maulik P. K. (2017). Workplace stress: A neglected aspect of mental health wellbeing. The Indian journal of medical research, 146(4), 441–444. ⁠https://doi.org/10.4103/ijmr.IJMR_1298_17⁠ ⁠https://www.nami.org/Home⁠ ⁠https://www.osha.gov/⁠ ⁠https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/mental-health-at-work

    22 min
  4. 09/20/2023

    Exploring Body Image and Unraveling Eating Disorders: Treatment Options and Supportive Resources Part Two

    Hello listeners, and welcome to Breaking Down where we explain emotions, behaviors, and everything else that makes us human. Today’s episode is about body image and eating disorders. This is our part two in our two-part series about eating disorders and body image. In today’s episode we are sitting down with an expert in eating disorders and body acceptance to discuss resources for eating disorder treatment as well as provide us skills for working toward self-acceptance. If you haven’t listened to part one, I would highly encourage it as we will cover similar themes covered in that episode. Knowing this episode will be heavier in nature, I want to give a trigger warning regarding topics involving eating disorders, disordered eating, body image, and body dysmorphia. Feel free to skip this episode if this content is uncomfortable to listen to. Resources: https://www.instagram.com/revivecounselingfayetteville/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D https://www.aedweb.org/resources/publications/nine-truths-weight Body of Truth by Harriet Brown Fat Talk by Virginia Sole-Smith Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings Health at Every Size by Lindo Bacon Intuitive Eating by Elyse Resch and Evelyn Tribole https://www.maintenancephase.com/ https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/blog/nine-truths-about-eating-disorders https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4855514/ Reclaiming Body Trust by Hillary Kinavey and Dana Sturtevant The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor The Wisdom of Your Body by Hillary McBride https://uncnewsarchive.unc.edu/2008/04/22/survey-finds-disordered-eating-behaviors-among-three-out-of-four-american-women-2/ What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat by Aubrey Gordon “You just need to lose weight” and 19 other myths about fat people by Aubrey Gordon

    1h 19m

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Breaking Down is a podcast about all things mental health. With licensed counselor Chloe Zahn, Breaking Down touches on relationships, attachment styles and fears, trauma and how it impacts our daily functioning, the stigmas surrounding mental health, and much more! Stay tuned every Wednesday for more episodes!