Build, Repeat. (A Paces Podcast)

Paces

Deep discussions with those who are helping us build our way out of climate change. 

  1. Scaling Distributed Generation Beyond Community Solar with Bill Francis from New Energy Equity

    14 АПР.

    Scaling Distributed Generation Beyond Community Solar with Bill Francis from New Energy Equity

    In this episode, James talks with Bill Francis, Vice President of Emerging Markets at New Energy Equity — a distributed solar developer that has spent over a decade building community solar programs across the country. Bill joined NEE at the end of 2025 after seven years at Engie, arriving right as the traditional community solar model is showing real strain. Programs are saturating. Development capital is tighter. The ITC safe harbor clock is ticking. His mandate: figure out what comes next — and build it. The case he makes in this episode is that the fundamentals for distributed energy are actually stronger than ever. The branding and program structure just need to change. Why community solar programs are hitting a wall — and the structures (feed-in tariffs, co-op PPAs, VPP tariffs) that could replace themThe ITC safe harbor cliff at end of 2027: why developers need a three-dimensional strategy on equipment timelines, permitting, and safe harbor right nowThe distributed storage opportunity: why half an acre beats 80 acres — and why electric co-ops are among the most motivated customers for standalone batteriesNEE's development DNA: why being judicious about when and how you de-risk assets matters more than ever when development capital is scarceA must-listen for distributed solar and storage developers thinking through market selection, capital discipline, and what the post-community solar era actually looks like. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    33 мин.
  2. How virtual power plants became a daily grid resource with Matt Plante

    18 МАР.

    How virtual power plants became a daily grid resource with Matt Plante

    In this episode, James talks with Matt Plante, President of Voltus, about what it actually takes to build a virtual power plant that grid operators call on every single day. Voltus aggregates distributed energy resources, including industrial loads, batteries, commercial buildings, and now residential assets, into virtual power plants that participate in wholesale electricity markets. Since April 2024, Voltus has been dispatched by a grid operator every single day, a milestone that signals demand flexibility has moved from emergency backup to standard operating procedure. Matt joins James to unpack how the company has grown 10x since their 2021 conversation, what finally made the battery cost curve work, and why the barriers to scale look nothing like the barriers to entry. James and Matt get into: Why the shift from no-load-growth to explosive load growth has changed what grid operators will consider, and how fastHow batteries went from not penciling to the fastest-growing DER segment in Voltus's portfolioWhat data centers actually want from demand flexibility programs, and why forcing them to participate would backfireWhy FERC 2222 hasn't delivered and what it actually takes to unlock new states for third-party demand responseThe grid's relationship to distributed resources has fundamentally changed, and this episode is a clear-eyed look at what made that shift happen and what comes next. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    32 мин.
  3. Learning from the last grid build-out (and why VPPs are the answer) with Mark Dyson

    3 МАР.

    Learning from the last grid build-out (and why VPPs are the answer) with Mark Dyson

    The grid has been here before. Between 1960 and 2000, US utilities grew demand 4–5x while cutting real electricity prices by 20%, and the lessons from that era are more relevant than ever. Mark Dyson is Managing Director of Electricity at RMI, where he's spent nearly two decades working on grid modernization, distributed energy resources, and the policy and market design that holds it all together. Before returning to RMI, he led analytics at Ascend Analytics, giving him a rare vantage point across both the technical and market sides of the energy transition. In this episode, Mark draws on that history to make the case that data center load growth isn't the crisis it's being framed as — it's a solvable problem, and virtual power plants are a big part of the solution. He breaks down why VPPs are 40–60% cheaper than gas peakers or batteries for meeting new peak demand, and what it actually takes to deploy them at scale. This episode covers: - The three lessons from last century's grid growth: embrace new technology, invest proactively in infrastructure, and make the most of existing capacity - Why virtual power plants are the fastest, most affordable tool for meeting data center demand growth - Why hyperscalers resist flexible load at the project level — and how paying others to curtail resolves that tension - Navigating permitting headwinds and the post-OBBBA policy environment If you're working on the energy transition, Mark's perspective on what history can actually teach us about today's challenges is essential listening. Learn more about RMI here.  Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    34 мин.
  4. Why grid planning is the hardest problem in energy right now with Derek Stenclik

    17 ФЕВР.

    Why grid planning is the hardest problem in energy right now with Derek Stenclik

    In this episode, James talks with Derek Stenclik, Founding Partner at Telos Energy. Derek shares his path into the power sector, starting at GE where he spent nearly a decade working on grid planning, resource adequacy, and early studies on integrating wind and solar at scale, before co-founding Telos to tackle some of the grid’s most complex planning challenges. The conversation focuses on how utilities and grid operators are navigating an era of unprecedented uncertainty, driven by rapid load growth, shifting resource mixes, and long planning timelines. Derek shares how Telos approaches these challenges through advanced grid modeling, emphasizing the importance of scenario analysis, proactive planning, and better decision-making in the face of volatile forecasts and evolving market rules. Key topics include: Why grid modeling and scenario analysis are foundational to the energy transitionManaging explosive load growth from data centers and large new loadsThe evolving role of load flexibility, batteries, and behind-the-meter generationAffordability, cost allocation, and the risk of stranded infrastructureA must-listen for anyone thinking about how reliability, affordability, and speed intersect in today’s power system. Reach out to Telos Energy by visiting their website.  Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    33 мин.
  5. Fixing the Grid-Data Center Disconnect with Tony Wagler and Alex Oort Alonso

    03.12.2025

    Fixing the Grid-Data Center Disconnect with Tony Wagler and Alex Oort Alonso

    In this episode, James talks with Tony and Alex from the Paces team about their recent white paper exploring the mismatch between data center growth projections and actual grid planning. Tony, a seasoned power developer, and Alex, a researcher focused on data center flexibility, dive into how speculative load growth is driving transmission investments that may never serve real projects. They discuss how Paces analyzed over 14 million Texas land parcels to identify where data centers could feasibly be built, incorporating constraints like power access, zoning, water, and community sentiment. The conversation reveals a fundamental disconnect: the grid is being built for data centers that may never exist, while truly viable sites often lack the needed power capacity. By taking a “land-first” approach, Paces offers a bottom-up, data-driven framework to inform smarter, faster, and more collaborative infrastructure decisions. Why ERCOT (Texas) was the ideal case study for this white paper.The speculative nature of current interconnection requests and its ripple effects.Key site viability criteria: power, topography, ownership, fiber, and water.Why only 17% of viable land near substations in Texas has withdrawal capacity.A must-listen for anyone building in clean energy, this episode offers a practical framework to better align developer needs with grid planning. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    33 мин.
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