Built for This

Carly Pepin

 Where vision meets execution and legacy begins. Built For This is the podcast for founders, business owners, C-Suite Executives, and vision-driven leaders who know their business isn’t just what they do, it’s an extension of who they are. Hosted by business strategist and human behavior specialist Carly Pepin, each episode dives into candid, intelligent conversations with high-performing business owners and executives. These are the real stories behind growth: the pivotal moments, the internal shifts, the strategic moves, and the unseen pressure that comes with building something that lasts. With a sharp eye for strategy and a deep understanding of human behavior, Carly brings out the clarity, conviction, and contradictions that drive exceptional leadership. You’ll hear what’s working, what’s not, and what it actually takes to grow a business without losing yourself in the process. This is where business and personal development meet: honest, direct, and built to bring life to your vision. Whether you’re growing your next big thing or recalibrating to get back on track, Built For This is your space to think, build, and lead with purpose.

  1. 5d ago

    From Patagonia to ForgeLine: Eric Neuron on Building a Brand with Purpose

    In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Eric Neuron, owner of ForgeLine Fieldwear, to explore his journey from more than 15 years at Patagonia to taking ownership of the military-focused business he'd helped build. Eric shares how the work evolved from modifying Patagonia products for U.S. military units into developing purpose-built, mission-critical gear, and how the opportunity to acquire the business forced him to think seriously about the work he wanted to continue doing. Carly and Eric also explore ForgeLine's move into consumer products, its decision to create a category around performance fieldwear, and the challenge of building a brand that feels authentic rather than becoming another outdoor or tactical option. Along the way, Eric opens up about leading a small, experienced team, creating alignment without micromanaging, and why enduring brands are built through patience, consistency, and trust.   Key Takeaways Purpose Gives People a Reason to Stay When ForgeLine separated from Patagonia, several members of Eric's team chose to go with him. A big part of that loyalty came from a shared commitment to "serving those who serve" and continuing work they believed genuinely mattered. Don't Enter a Market Just to Become Another Option ForgeLine deliberately chose not to become another outdoor or tactical brand. Instead, the company is building around performance fieldwear: durable, versatile products designed for real people doing real work across different environments. Trust Is Earned Slowly Eric doesn't believe enduring brands are built overnight. His approach is to stay authentic, make decisions consistently with the company's values, create great products, and earn customer trust over time.   Memorable Quotes "There's something about serving those that serve." "Authenticity can't be faked." "You've got to be patient. It's about earning trust."   About Eric Neuron Eric Neuron is the owner of ForgeLine Fieldwear and has built his career around mission-driven product innovation. After more than 15 years at Patagonia, where he oversaw special markets and led the Lost Arrow Project, Eric acquired the business in 2022 and transformed it into ForgeLine Fieldwear. Today, ForgeLine is an independent, U.S.-owned manufacturer developing cold-weather systems, combat uniforms, and mission-critical gear, while expanding its performance fieldwear into new markets.   Connect with Eric https://forgelinefieldwear.com/  https://www.instagram.com/forgelinefieldwear/

    From Patagonia to ForgeLine: Eric Neuron on Building a Brand with Purpose
  2. Aug 31

    The Data Was There. The System Wasn't. Building Preventative Cardiac Care with Shawn Kumar

    In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Shawn Kumar, CEO and original architect of Rhythm Science, to explore how better use of cardiac data could help healthcare move from reacting to emergencies to identifying problems before they become critical. Shawn's mission was shaped by witnessing a patient die after a defibrillator failed to resuscitate him. The experience left him with a powerful question: could the data and technology already available have helped identify the problem earlier? That question became part of the foundation for Rhythm Science, which transforms complex cardiac data into actionable information healthcare teams can actually use. Shawn explains why collecting data isn't enough, and why successful healthcare technology needs to make clinicians' jobs easier rather than adding another layer of complexity. Carly and Shawn also explore building the company during the pandemic, bootstrapping before raising capital, working with healthcare systems including Cedars-Sinai, developing leaders internally, and how Shawn's role has evolved as the business has grown. It's a conversation about healthcare innovation, leadership, data, and building technology that has the potential to make a meaningful difference when timing matters most.   In This Episode You'll discover why data only creates value when someone can act on it, how healthcare technology can reduce friction for already overloaded clinicians, and why founders need to know when to empower their teams and when it's time to zoom back into the details.   Memorable Quotes "There's a difference between the ability to record and monitor data and actually making it useful." "You have to nurture yourself too, though, and do the things that inspire you to keep it going for the long run." "One of the things I think as a founder, what you look at is, where are you right now and where do you need to be?"   About Shawn Kumar Shawn Kumar is the CEO and original architect of Rhythm Science, a company focused on turning cardiac data into actionable intelligence that can help move medicine toward more preventative care. A biomedical engineer, AI developer, and cognitive scientist with patient care experience, Shawn combines technical expertise with firsthand understanding of the challenges facing healthcare professionals. His mission is to build technology that helps identify critical cardiac insights earlier, giving healthcare teams better information when it matters most.   Connect with Shawn https://www.rhythm360.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-kumar/

    The Data Was There. The System Wasn't. Building Preventative Cardiac Care with Shawn Kumar
  3. Aug 27

    The Business of Making Moments Matter with Wombi Rose

    What happens when engineering, creativity, and human connection come together to reinvent something as traditional as the greeting card? In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Wombi Rose, co-founder and CEO of Lovepop, to explore how an idea discovered during a trip to Vietnam became a nationally recognized brand on a mission to create one billion magical moments. Wombi shares how his background in naval architecture helped inspire Lovepop's signature 3D designs, and how watching customers immediately think of someone they wanted to give a card to revealed the bigger opportunity: they weren't simply selling cards, they were helping people create meaningful connections. The conversation explores Lovepop's decision to build its own manufacturing operation in Vietnam, the challenges of leading teams across different countries and cultures, and why curiosity and hunger often matter more than having the perfect experience. Wombi also shares how Lovepop thinks about competitive advantage, why the company's real moat extends far beyond its products, and how a relentless commitment to creativity led to a Grammy-nominated collaboration with OK Go. Carly and Wombi also dive into AI, including why every employee needs to learn how to use it while remaining accountable for the quality of their work. It's a fascinating conversation about creativity, leadership, technology, customer experience, and building a business around moments that genuinely matter. In This Episode You'll discover how Lovepop turned its mission of creating one billion magical moments into a measurable company goal, why Wombi believes a company's strongest competitive advantage is often the entire ecosystem surrounding its product, and why AI should enhance human capability without replacing human judgment. Memorable Quotes "The never-ending theme is: how do we do less better?" "This is the worst AI will ever be." "The tool is only as good as the craftsman." About Wombi Rose Wombi Rose is the co-founder and CEO of Lovepop, a design company on a mission to create one billion magical moments. Trained as a naval architect, Wombi combined engineering with intricate sliceform paper art to help create Lovepop's signature 3D cards. Since appearing on Shark Tank and securing investment from Kevin O'Leary, Lovepop has grown from a three-person startup into a nationally recognized brand. Connect with Wombi Lovepop: http://www.lovepop.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/Lovepop TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@‌Lovepopofficial

    The Business of Making Moments Matter with Wombi Rose
  4. Aug 24

    How Shahrzad Rafati Is Reinventing Her Own Company with AI

    What do you do when the business you've built is already successful, but you can see that the technology transforming your industry is going to demand something completely different? In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Shahrzad Rafati, founder and CEO of RHEI, to explore what it really looks like to disrupt your own company, embrace the agentic AI era, and rethink the relationship between technology and human creativity. Shahrzad's connection to storytelling began long before she became a technology entrepreneur. Growing up in Iran, where access to content was limited, she experienced what it meant not to have an endless world of stories and perspectives available at your fingertips. After moving to North America, she became fascinated by the intersection of storytelling and technology, and by the possibility of giving more people the ability to create, share, and find an audience. That journey eventually led to RHEI, a global technology company that today reaches more than 600 million unique viewers every month across more than 150 countries. But despite operating at enormous scale and generating hundreds of millions of dollars, Shahrzad and her team made an unusual decision. They chose to disrupt themselves. Seeing the possibilities emerging through generative and agentic AI, RHEI began shifting away from its traditional toolkit and services model and investing in a fundamentally different future. At the center of that transformation is Made, an agentic creative operating system designed to function more like a creative team than another piece of software. The idea is simple but ambitious. Creators shouldn't have to become editors, designers, distribution experts, rights managers, community managers, and platform specialists just to bring their ideas into the world. Instead, technology can take on more of that work, freeing creators to spend their time doing the thing only they can do: create. Shahrzad is refreshingly candid about what reinventing an established company actually involves. RHEI changed leadership, rebuilt its R&D organization, sunset business units that were still generating revenue, transformed its approach to sales and marketing, and significantly increased communication across the organization. Company offsites that once happened quarterly moved to every other month because Shahrzad understood that transformation can't simply be announced in a presentation. People need time to understand the new direction, challenge it, ask questions, and see where they belong within it. Carly and Shahrzad also explore one of the biggest questions surrounding AI: what happens to human creativity as machines become increasingly capable? For Shahrzad, the answer isn't to turn every creator into a prompt engineer. It's almost the opposite. She believes empathy, curiosity, taste, lived experience, and creativity become even more important as AI grows more intelligent. Her vision is to use technology to protect and amplify what she calls the "human signal," including the imperfections, experiences, perspectives, and stories that make someone's work unmistakably their own. It's a fascinating conversation about AI, creativity, leadership, organizational transformation, and having the courage to disrupt something that's already working in order to build what comes next.   Key Themes Sometimes Your Current Success Is the Biggest Barrier to What's Next RHEI wasn't a struggling company searching for a turnaround. It was already operating at enormous scale and generating hundreds of millions of dollars. That made the decision to reinvent the business significantly harder. Rather than protecting what was already working, Shahrzad and her team chose to invest heavily in R&D, restructure teams, sunset revenue-generating business units, and rebuild the organization around where they believed the industry was heading. It's a powerful lesson in the difference between responding to disruption and being willing to disrupt yourself before someone else does. Curiosity Is Becoming a Competitive Advantage As AI makes knowledge dramatically easier to access, Shahrzad believes curiosity becomes increasingly valuable. Someone working in sales can now rapidly deepen their understanding of marketing. A junior employee can study an industry, competitors, research, and methodologies at a level that previously demanded far more time and resources. The question is whether they actually want to. As Shahrzad puts it, you can't bribe someone to be curious. The people who naturally want to learn, explore, question, and understand are increasingly valuable in an environment where the tools for learning are available to almost everyone. AI Can Give Humans More Space to Be Human Shahrzad's vision for Made isn't about replacing creativity. It's about removing more of the work surrounding creativity. Creators shouldn't need to spend their days resizing videos, creating thumbnails, managing rights, navigating distribution platforms, analyzing thousands of comments, or learning an endless collection of tools. Instead, AI can increasingly take responsibility for that operational burden. But Shahrzad also believes those systems need to understand the individual. Rather than producing generic AI content, Made is being designed around personalization, proactivity, and the creator's own voice, audience, taste, and creative DNA. The goal isn't to remove the human from creativity. It's to give the human more room to actually be creative.   Memorable Quotes "You can't bribe people to be curious." "What makes us humans is the imperfections." "I think every core pillar that you look at comes from that human connection, and we want to make it better."   About Shahrzad Rafati Shahrzad Rafati is the Founder and CEO of RHEI, a technology company building AI designed to amplify human creativity, scale audiences, and enhance impact. Under Shahrzad's leadership, RHEI has grown into a global powerhouse reaching more than 600 million unique viewers every month across more than 150 countries. The company is now pioneering Made, an emotionally intelligent platform designed around the future of human creativity. Beyond RHEI, Shahrzad has contributed to both the G20 and G7 and supports a number of influential boards and organizations spanning technology, media, investment, design, architecture, and the not-for-profit sector. Her roles include serving as Vice-Chairperson for Invest in Canada and as a board member for Hootsuite Media Inc. and Bjarke Ingels Group.   Connect with Shahrzad RHEI: rhei.com LinkedIn: Shahrzad Rafati on LinkedIn X: Shahrzad Rafati on X Instagram: Shahrzad Rafati on Instagram

    How Shahrzad Rafati Is Reinventing Her Own Company with AI
  5. Aug 20

    From a Beer to a Market Leader with Jonathan Carson and Eric Kurtzman

    What happens when two lawyers who barely know each other sit down for a beer, discover they share the same frustration with an industry, and decide they can build something better? In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Jonathan Carson and Eric Kurtzman, co-CEOs of Stretto, to explore a business partnership that has lasted more than 25 years and helped reshape the bankruptcy services industry. Jonathan and Eric first met as bankruptcy attorneys and quickly recognized a problem hiding in plain sight. The claims agencies supporting major bankruptcy cases were difficult to work with, their technology was outdated, and both lawyers and clients were frustrated with the experience. Their first thought was to acquire an existing business. But after looking more closely at what they would actually be buying, they came to a different conclusion: starting from scratch might be easier. That decision led to the creation of KCC, a technology company they grew into a market leader before eventually selling it to Computershare. Years later, Jonathan and Eric returned to the industry with an even bigger vision, building Stretto into a technology and services platform supporting corporate restructuring, bankruptcy trustees, and consumer bankruptcy. But this conversation is about far more than bankruptcy. Carly, Jonathan, and Eric explore the partnership behind their success and why being very different from one another has become one of their greatest strengths. Jonathan naturally gravitates toward relationships, marketing, business development, and the external face of the organization. Eric is more focused on numbers, operations, execution, and the internal mechanics of the business. Instead of both trying to control every decision, they learned to trust each other's strengths. Sometimes that means one of them disagreeing with a decision while still recognizing that the other person is better equipped to make it. That same clarity has shaped Stretto's approach to growth. Rather than following what Jonathan describes as a "spray paint strategy" and expanding into anything that might generate additional revenue, Stretto has remained deliberately focused on bankruptcy and insolvency. Its acquisitions are designed to deepen the company's expertise and capabilities within that market rather than take it into unrelated industries. That specialization is becoming even more valuable as AI transforms professional services. Instead of trying to create generic AI products for everyone, Stretto can apply the technology to very specific bankruptcy workflows and problems where decades of industry knowledge provide a significant advantage. Jonathan and Eric also share a candid look at acquisitions from the buyer's perspective. They discuss integrating companies and cultures, retaining founders and key employees, structuring earnouts, and understanding what the person selling the company actually wants from the transaction. Because sometimes it isn't simply money. For a founder who has spent 15 years building something, success might mean finally seeing their technology reach its full potential. It might mean watching their product become an industry standard or knowing the business they created has found the right home. The conversation also offers a glimpse into the culture Jonathan and Eric built along the way, including company trips, unconventional annual "board meetings," and a commitment to helping employees grow alongside the business. Many of the executives working with them today have been part of their journey for more than two decades. At its heart, this episode is a fascinating conversation about partnership, trust, acquisitions, AI, culture, leadership, and the many different ways entrepreneurs can define success.   Key Themes Great Partnerships Are Built on Complementary Strengths Jonathan and Eric don't succeed because they think alike. In many ways, they succeed because they don't. Over the years, they've learned where each person's strengths lie and developed enough trust to give each other genuine ownership in those areas. That means accepting that sometimes the other person will make a decision you wouldn't make yourself. Instead of constantly second-guessing one another, they trust the person best equipped to make the call. The result is a leadership partnership with what Jonathan describes as twice the horsepower. Growth Doesn't Have to Mean Going Broader Stretto has resisted the temptation to become everything to everyone. Instead, Jonathan and Eric have chosen to go deeper into an industry they understand exceptionally well. That philosophy also guides their acquisitions. They aren't simply buying revenue. They're adding technologies, services, expertise, and capabilities that make Stretto more valuable within bankruptcy and insolvency. As AI creates opportunities to rethink how professional services are delivered, that depth of expertise gives Stretto an opportunity to create highly specialized solutions rather than competing as another generic technology provider. There Are Infinite Versions of Wealth One of the most thought-provoking parts of the conversation is Eric's perspective on what success actually means. Financial outcomes matter, but they're not the only way people measure the value of what they've built. For founders selling their companies, success might also mean seeing their product finally achieve widespread adoption, creating opportunities for employees, protecting their legacy, or becoming part of something bigger. Understanding what the person on the other side of a transaction genuinely values can change the entire nature of an acquisition, partnership, or negotiation.   Memorable Quotes "There are a lot of moments in our partnership where one of us looked at the other and said, 'I don't get it. I don't agree with you, but this is your area of the world.'" "Better, faster, cheaper. Everything that we're doing and everything that we get done through AI, it's done better, it's done faster and it's done cheaper." "There's an infinite versions of wealth, and it's up to each of us to decide what wealth means to us and what we're willing to sacrifice to reach that wealth."   About Jonathan Carson Jonathan Carson serves as co-CEO of Stretto, a bankruptcy technology and services firm retained in some of the country's largest corporate restructurings and providing proprietary software used to prepare more than 80% of consumer bankruptcy cases filed nationwide. Jonathan began his career as a corporate restructuring attorney with Kirkland & Ellis before leveraging his legal expertise to co-found Kurtzman Carson Consultants, or KCC, with Eric Kurtzman. Together, they grew KCC into a market leader in the administration of large Chapter 11 bankruptcy cases before its acquisition by Computershare. Their entrepreneurial leadership earned Jonathan and Eric widespread recognition, including the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. Jonathan is also an adjunct professor at the University of Michigan Law School and is regularly called upon by the media to share his expertise in entrepreneurship and bankruptcy.   About Eric Kurtzman Eric Kurtzman serves as co-CEO of Stretto, where he directs the company's growth and expansion strategy. A former bankruptcy attorney and award-winning entrepreneur with more than 20 years of industry experience, Eric plays a central role in evaluating investments, conducting risk analysis, guiding acquisitions, and shaping the company's long-term strategic direction. Working alongside Stretto's executive leadership team, Eric helps establish financial, service, and development objectives across the company's business divisions while ensuring the organization continues strengthening its position as a leading bankruptcy technology and services provider. Together with Jonathan, Eric has spent more than two decades building businesses, developing teams, completing acquisitions, and challenging traditional approaches within the bankruptcy industry.   Connect with Jonathan, Eric & Stretto Stretto: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/stretto-com/posts/?feedView=all Jonathan Carson: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-carson-83640a3/ Eric Kurtzman: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickurtzman/

    From a Beer to a Market Leader with Jonathan Carson and Eric Kurtzman
  6. Aug 17

    From a Garage VR Experiment to Working with the World's Biggest Brands with Matthew Celia

    In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Matthew Celia, co-founder and Chief Creative Director of LightSail VR, to explore what it takes to build a sustainable creative business around technology that never stops changing. Matthew's journey into immersive storytelling began the first time he experienced virtual reality. He could immediately see its potential, but he could also see what was missing. Much of the early VR content felt like a demonstration of the technology rather than a story worth staying for. You could visit Mars or explore an incredible environment, but once the novelty disappeared, what kept you watching? Matthew believed the answer was the same thing that had kept audiences captivated for generations: characters, conflict, emotion, and great storytelling. So he and his business partner Robert started experimenting. Matthew bought 10 GoPros using a zero-interest credit card offer, and the pair began figuring out how to tell stories in 360 degrees. Then came a call that changed everything. A friend needed someone to create a 360-degree experience for Paranormal Activity. Matthew and Robert shot it in Matthew's garage, Matthew stayed up through the night stitching the footage together, and the finished experience went on to generate 10 million views. That early project helped put LightSail on the map, eventually leading to work with some of the world's biggest companies, including Meta, Apple, Amazon MGM, and Google. But this conversation isn't really about VR. It's about what happens when you build a company at the edge of an industry that hasn't finished inventing itself yet. Matthew shares how LightSail survived wave after wave of technology hype by refusing to build the company around any single trend. While other businesses raised significant capital and rapidly expanded during the VR boom, LightSail deliberately stayed lean. Matthew developed what he calls an "accordion structure," bringing in specialist talent as projects require it rather than carrying the overhead of a huge permanent team. That same philosophy extends to hiring. Matthew explains why he would rather find someone with exceptional creative taste, curiosity, passion, and tenacity and teach them the technology than hire someone who knows every piece of software but lacks creative instinct. Carly and Matthew also explore the reality behind creative success. The finished project might look polished, but getting there requires constant experimentation, wrong turns, failed ideas, and collaboration. Matthew believes that if you're not failing regularly, you're probably not pushing yourself far enough to grow. They also dive into AI and the role it could play in the future of creative production. LightSail is already experimenting with agentic coding, internal software, production automation, and AI-assisted tools that can analyze documentary transcripts and help teams identify potential story arcs. But Matthew doesn't see AI replacing filmmakers. He sees its greatest potential in helping creative teams communicate, collaborate, and spend more of their time doing the work that humans do best. From a garage filled with GoPros to Emmy-winning productions for global brands, this episode is a fascinating conversation about creativity, entrepreneurship, emerging technology, failure, patience, and why the fundamentals of great storytelling matter even when everything around them changes.   Key Themes Build Around Something More Durable Than the Technology LightSail has lived through VR, AR, blockchain, virtual production, AI, and countless technology hype cycles. Rather than betting the company on one platform becoming the future, Matthew kept the focus on immersive storytelling. Technologies and distribution platforms will change, but audiences will continue caring about characters, conflict, emotion, and stories that make them feel something. Hire for What You Can't Teach Matthew can teach someone which software, button, plugin, or workflow to use. What is much harder to teach is creative taste. That's why he prioritizes qualities such as instinct, curiosity, passion, tenacity, and willingness to learn, then gives people opportunities where their natural interests can become an advantage. Failure and Collaboration Are Part of the Creative Process For Matthew, failure isn't something that happens on the way to creative success. It's part of how creative success is produced. Emerging technologies rarely come with established playbooks, so teams have to experiment and get things wrong. And despite the mythology of the lone creative genius, Matthew believes filmmaking will always be a team sport. Great work comes from talented people bringing different perspectives and skills together.   Memorable Quotes "I can teach you what button and plugin to use. I can't teach you taste." "If you're not failing 80% of the time, then I think you're not growing." "There's no such thing as an auteur... I'm nothing without the team of people that we've built around me."   About Matthew Celia Matthew Celia is the co-founder and Chief Creative Director of LightSail VR, an Emmy-winning immersive cinema studio based in Los Angeles. Since launching the company in 2015, Matthew has helped grow LightSail from a two-person startup experimenting with early VR cameras into a multimillion-dollar production company delivering immersive projects for organizations including Meta, Apple, Amazon MGM, and Google. The studio has produced more than 200 projects spanning immersive film, live music, and branded entertainment, including work featuring Sabrina Carpenter and Shawn Mendes. Early in the company's history, its Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension VR experience reached 10 million views and helped establish LightSail as an early leader in immersive storytelling. In 2025, the company earned a Primetime Creative Arts Emmy for its work on the Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Special. Today, Matthew continues exploring the intersection of creativity and emerging technology while sharing his experience building sustainable creative businesses, navigating technology hype cycles, and developing teams capable of producing exceptional work in industries that are constantly changing.   Connect with Matthew LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewcelia LightSail VR on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/light-sail-vr Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lightsailvr YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/lightsailvr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lightsailvr Threads: https://www.threads.com/@lightsailvr

    From a Garage VR Experiment to Working with the World's Biggest Brands with Matthew Celia
  7. Aug 13

    From Push Mower to $30 Million Tech Platform with Bryan Clayton

    In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Bryan Clayton, co-founder and CEO of GreenPal, to explore how the lessons learned building a landscaping business became the foundation for creating a $30 million technology platform. Bryan's entrepreneurial journey started as a teenager mowing lawns with a push mower. Over the next 15 years, he grew that hustle into one of Tennessee's largest landscaping companies, generating more than $10 million annually before eventually selling the business. But those years also gave him an intimate understanding of an industry still heavily reliant on phone calls, paperwork, checks, and unpredictable service. Inspired by the transformation Uber was bringing to transportation, Bryan saw an opportunity to create a better way for homeowners to find and manage lawn care. There was one significant obstacle: neither Bryan nor his co-founders knew how to build software. Instead of letting that stop them, they learned what they needed to know and began building GreenPal. Throughout the conversation, Bryan shares some of the mistakes and discoveries that shaped the platform, including one that completely changed their understanding of their customers. GreenPal was initially built around the assumption that homeowners wanted cheaper lawn care. When Bryan actually sat down with early customers, he discovered that price wasn't their biggest frustration. They wanted reliability. They wanted someone who would simply show up when they said they would. Carly and Bryan also explore his philosophy of learning a function before delegating it, using negative customer feedback as free R&D, hiring fractional experts, choosing the right co-founders, and focusing on meaningful business metrics rather than vanity numbers. Bryan also explains the difference between the landscaping company he built, which could barely operate without him for two days, and the "anti-fragile" company he's building today. His goal isn't simply to create a business that survives when the founder steps away. It's to build one capable of continuing to learn, improve, and grow without him constantly holding everything together. From old-school work ethic to AI, automation, and customer psychology, this episode is a fascinating look at what happens when deep industry experience meets a willingness to continually experiment and adapt.   Key Themes Learn It Before You Delegate It Bryan believes founders should understand critical functions before handing them to someone else. Whether it was software development, SEO, or another part of GreenPal's growth, he and his co-founders first learned enough to understand what good looked like. Otherwise, delegation can quickly become what Bryan calls "abdication," where responsibility is handed away without clear expectations, processes, or accountability. Listen to What Customers Actually Want GreenPal's founders assumed price would be their biggest competitive advantage. Their customers told them otherwise. Reliability mattered far more than saving another few dollars. That insight helped reshape the product and is a powerful reminder that knowing an industry doesn't automatically mean you understand the psychology of the customer. Build a Business That Gets Stronger Without You Bryan's first company depended heavily on him. GreenPal is being built differently. Through systems, automation, data, feedback loops, accountability, and the right people, his goal is to create an "anti-fragile" organization capable of operating and continuing to improve even when he isn't there.   Memorable Quotes "GreenPal is about a 10-year overnight success." "There is a meaningful percentage of the detractors that are just trying to help you. They are like free R&D." "Everything is your fault all the time. And you have to just embrace that."   About Bryan Clayton Bryan Clayton is the co-founder and CEO of GreenPal, a technology platform connecting more than 300,000 homeowners with lawn care professionals across the United States. His entrepreneurial journey began as a teenager mowing lawns with a push mower. Over the following two decades, Bryan built one of Tennessee's largest landscaping companies, growing it to more than $10 million in annual revenue before selling the business. He then turned his attention to technology, co-founding GreenPal to bring greater convenience, reliability, and transparency to the lawn care industry. Today, the platform handles thousands of jobs every day and has grown into a business valued at approximately $30 million. Bryan is now focused on bringing AI, data, and automation into one of America's oldest service industries, helping independent lawn care professionals operate more efficiently and compete with much larger businesses. His journey from pushing a mower to building a national technology platform is a story of persistence, customer obsession, continual learning, and adapting old-school entrepreneurship for a high-tech world.   Connect with Bryan GreenPal: https://www.yourgreenpal.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-clayton-a96b33214 X: https://x.com/bryanMclayton Instagram: https://instagram.com/bryanmclayton YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BryanClayton1 Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_M._Clayton

    From Push Mower to $30 Million Tech Platform with Bryan Clayton
  8. Aug 10

    Building the Foundation Before You Chase the Growth with Jessica Yarmey

    In this episode of Built For This, Carly Pepin sits down with Jessica Yarmey, President of Squeeze Massage, to explore what it really takes to prepare a franchise for sustainable, long-term growth. With more than 25 years of experience across brands including Burger King, Gold's Gym, Club Pilates, and KickHouse, Jessica has seen franchise growth from almost every angle. Now, following Squeeze's acquisition by wellness conglomerate GoSaga, she's bringing those lessons into a new chapter, with ambitions to grow the brand from a relatively small footprint into hundreds of locations. But Jessica isn't interested in chasing location numbers for the sake of growth. She shares why her immediate priority has been strengthening the foundation first, from changing pricing and evolving the service offering to replacing the CRM, reshaping elements of the culture, and creating much closer communication with franchise owners and general managers. Her goal is to make sure the business can genuinely support its next stage before accelerating expansion. Throughout the conversation, Carly and Jessica also explore the personal side of leadership. Jessica shares how feedback from hundreds of franchisees during her time at Club Pilates became an unexpected form of personal development, forcing her to challenge her thinking, communicate decisions more clearly, and become comfortable making difficult calls. She also reflects on leaving a successful CMO role to launch KickHouse during COVID, navigating an earlier-than-expected exit, and why she continues to deliberately choose opportunities where she has something new to learn. Whether you're scaling a franchise, acquiring a business, leading an organization through change, or preparing for your next stage of growth, this episode is a candid reminder that sustainable scale doesn't begin with moving faster. It begins with building something strong enough to support where you want to go.   Key Themes Build the Foundation Before Accelerating Growth Jessica has ambitious plans for Squeeze, but her focus is first on getting the model right at 25 locations, then 50. The systems, customer experience, franchisee relationships, services, and operations all need to become repeatable before the business can sustainably support hundreds of locations. Culture Is Defined by How Values Are Lived Values on paper aren't enough. Jessica explains how transforming culture sometimes means changing how existing values show up inside the organization, rewarding people who embody them positively, and being willing to make difficult decisions when behaviors consistently undermine the culture you're trying to create. Leadership Should Keep Developing You Jessica sees each stage of her career as an opportunity for personal development. From receiving constant feedback from franchise owners to deliberately stepping into unfamiliar leadership roles, she believes growth happens when you're willing to keep testing yourself, learning, and evolving. Memorable Quotes "The game is just personal development and getting as much out of the opportunity for your own growth as you're putting into the opportunity for company growth." "We don't want to grow faster than what we're ready for, and we don't want to grow faster than what the business can support and hold." "You dig in, you make changes, you learn, you grow."   About Jessica Yarmey Jessica Yarmey is the President of Squeeze Massage, taking on the role following the brand's acquisition by wellness conglomerate GoSaga. With more than 25 years of experience building and growing major brands, Jessica has worked across organizations including Gold's Gym, Burger King, and Club Pilates, where she served as CMO during its rise to become the world's largest Pilates franchise. She later founded KickHouse Fitness, growing the concept from zero to 30 locations before its acquisition by Mayweather Boxing + Fitness in 2022. Today, Jessica is focused on strengthening Squeeze's foundations, supporting its franchise network, and preparing the brand for significant national expansion while making its tech-enabled approach to self-care accessible to more people.   Connect with Jessica Squeeze Massage Jessica Yarmey on LinkedIn Squeeze on Instagram Jessica Yarmey on Instagram

    Building the Foundation Before You Chase the Growth with Jessica Yarmey

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 Where vision meets execution and legacy begins. Built For This is the podcast for founders, business owners, C-Suite Executives, and vision-driven leaders who know their business isn’t just what they do, it’s an extension of who they are. Hosted by business strategist and human behavior specialist Carly Pepin, each episode dives into candid, intelligent conversations with high-performing business owners and executives. These are the real stories behind growth: the pivotal moments, the internal shifts, the strategic moves, and the unseen pressure that comes with building something that lasts. With a sharp eye for strategy and a deep understanding of human behavior, Carly brings out the clarity, conviction, and contradictions that drive exceptional leadership. You’ll hear what’s working, what’s not, and what it actually takes to grow a business without losing yourself in the process. This is where business and personal development meet: honest, direct, and built to bring life to your vision. Whether you’re growing your next big thing or recalibrating to get back on track, Built For This is your space to think, build, and lead with purpose.