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Built to Sell Built to Buy features the world’s leading business thinkers sharing how great companies are built, scaled, and valued. Hosted by entrepreneur and adventurer Sam Penny, each episode explores the systems, leadership, and mindset behind businesses that thrive without their founders. For those ready to think bigger, lead boldly, and build lasting enterprise value.

  1. 2D AGO

    Ben Adkins on Building 7-Figure Marketing Systems that Sell Themselves

    From Chiropractic Tables to Digital Empires: Dr Ben Adkins on Building Systems That Sell Themselves Guest: Dr Ben Adkins — Founder of Fearless Social and One Hour Influencer Host: Sam Penny Duration: 1h 10m Episode Overview Dr Ben Adkins went from an overworked chiropractor in a small town to one of the most trusted marketing minds online. When faced with an empty waiting room, he taught himself digital marketing — and within months, filled his clinic beyond capacity. Then he sold it, built Fearless Social, and created One Hour Influencer — a system that helps business owners turn one hour a month into 30 days of powerful content. In this episode, Ben reveals how to: Turn your expertise into scalable, sellable systemsBuild a marketing engine that attracts clients — even while you sleepTransition from being the operator to becoming the entrepreneurCreate authentic content in an AI-driven worldBuild a business that fits in your backpack — literallyThis conversation is for service professionals, course creators, and business owners who want to escape the grind and build brands that scale with trust and simplicity. What You’ll Learn 1️⃣ The “Empty Waiting Room” Moment How a failing chiropractic clinic pushed Ben to master digital marketing — and how that single skill created a business he could sell. 2️⃣ Building the Engine That Attracts Buyers Why valuation skyrockets when your business runs on a repeatable marketing system rather than your personal hustle. 3️⃣ The Birth of Fearless Social How fear became the foundation for an agency that helped thousands of small business owners grow their reach online. 4️⃣ The Power of Simplicity: Answer 20 Questions The framework behind Ben’s success — turn the top 20 questions your customers ask into content. That’s your marketing plan. 5️⃣ The Backpack Entrepreneur Philosophy Ben’s rule: if your business doesn’t fit in a backpack, it’s not truly free. He explains how to build portability into your business model from day one. 6️⃣ From Service to Product How Ben scaled from done-for-you agency work to scalable digital products and recurring programs. 7️⃣ The Birth of One Hour Influencer How a simple accountability problem led to a new business model that creates one month of content in one hour — now used by lawyers, coaches, and service professionals worldwide. 8️⃣ Authenticity in the Age of AI Ben and Sam unpack how to use AI as a support tool — not a substitute — to keep content human and trust-driven. 9️⃣ Action Plan for 2025 Creators Ben’s three-step roadmap for anyone starting today: Write down why you started.List the 20 questions your audience keeps asking.Get on camera and answer them — imperfectly but consistently.Top Quotes “If your business doesn’t fit in a backpack, you’re not free.” — Dr Ben Adkins“Your founder story is your most powerful marketing asset. Tell it before anyone else does.” — Sam Penny“AI should never be your final step. The human touch is the only thing that builds trust.” — Dr Ben AdkinsResources Mentioned The 4-Hour Work Week – Tim Ferriss Fearless Social One Hour Influencer Opus Clip Hootsuite Connect with Ben Adkins 🌐 Website: 1hourinfluencer.io 📧 Contact: via the site 📱 Instagram: @drbenadkins 🎧 Podcast: Serial Progress Seeker Connect with Sam Penny 🌐 sampenny.com 🎙️ Follow Built to Sell | Built to Buy for weekly conversations on creating businesses that buyers chase.

    1h 10m
  2. OCT 22

    John Solleder on Building People, Purpose & Value That Lasts

    In this episode of Built to Sell | Built to Buy, host Sam Penny sits down with entrepreneur, author, and mentor John Solleder, whose 40-year career has been dedicated to one thing: helping people unlock their potential. From humble beginnings in New Jersey to building international, people-driven enterprises, John has spent decades proving that leadership, discipline, and personal growth are the foundations of lasting business value. Together, Sam and John unpack how to: Build equity by developing people first.Balance personal discipline with business agility.Use technology and AI without losing the human touch.Attract the right people and culture to scale beyond yourself.Stay relevant across decades of change in marketing, mindset, and media.🧭 Key Topics Covered The defining moment that launched John’s lifelong focus on mentorship and growth — inspired by Ronald Reagan’s 1983 commencement speech.Success habits that compound: getting up early, staying consistent, and making each hour count.How to pivot and stay agile, from cassette tapes and flyers to podcasts and AI.The power of brand values and why personal integrity outlasts any tool or platform.Leadership for the next decade — blending human empathy with technological fluency.Equity as more than money: how to build reputation, culture, and enterprise value that endures.Personal discipline & health — how John lost 40 kilos, redefined his diet, and turned lifelong habits into business fuel.💡 Key Quotes “Success isn’t luck — it’s design.” – John Solleder “For things to change, you have to change. For things to get better, you have to get better.” “Don’t let people rent space in your head unless they’re paying rent in positivity.” “Exercise is king, nutrition is queen — put them together and you build a kingdom.” “Businesses don’t scale — people do.” – Sam Penny🔑 Actionable Takeaways Discipline beats motivation. Go to bed early, get up early, and work like the future is now.Become a student of your craft. Read, listen, and learn constantly — success leaves clues.Build equity through people. Invest in culture and leadership, not just systems.Embrace change with agility. New tools don’t replace you; they multiply your reach if used right.Protect your mental bandwidth. Remove negativity and surround yourself with growth-minded people.📚 Mentioned in the Episode Leaving Nothing to Chance and Equity by John SollederThe Seasons of Life – Jim RohnGood to Great – Jim CollinsInfluences: Jim Rohn, Zig Ziglar, Earl Nightingale, Mary Kay Ash🔗 Connect with John Solleder Website: JohnSolleder.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnsolleder Books: Leaving Nothing to Chance | Equity | Moving Up 2020 (available via Amazon & JohnSolleder.com)Podcast: Leave Nothing to Chance

    1h 5m
  3. OCT 15

    Culture Branding: How to Build a Company That Moves 56x Faster — with Nader Safinya

    In this episode of Built to Sell | Built to Buy, host Sam Penny sits down with Nader Safinya, founder of Black Ribbit and creator of the Culture Branding™ methodology — a powerful framework that bridges brand, culture, and leadership to accelerate decision-making and deepen loyalty inside and outside organisations. Over two decades, Nader has worked across continents and industries to help businesses design cultures that live their values, not just print them on a wall. He reveals how aligning core beliefs across employees and customers can make decisions up to 56 times faster, boost retention, and drive measurable growth. From his multicultural upbringing to the birth of Black Ribbit and the development of the Culture Brand Filter — an AI-driven decision-making system — Nader shares how empathy, consistency, and design thinking can transform both company culture and bottom-line results. 🧠 Key Themes Covered 1. The Origins of a Culture Builder Growing up across Iran, Indonesia, France, and the US, Nader’s early life taught him to observe human behaviour and cultural dynamics. He credits his mother’s legendary parties — where CEOs and housekeepers mingled as equals — for teaching him the power of consistent treatment and emotional safety. 2. The Birth of Black Ribbit What started as a misread tattoo shop in Munich turned into a global agency name — and an ethos. Frogs, as Nader later discovered, symbolise empathy, transformation, and guidance across cultures. “It was fate — or as my mum would say, kismet,” he laughs. 3. Defining Your Core Values Before he could define company values, Nader had to define his own. After a decade-long personal transformation, he identified his three non-negotiables — reliability, compassion, and deliberate action — values that now underpin every decision at Black Ribbit. 4. What Is Culture Branding? Traditional branding focuses on customers. Culture Branding connects both sides of the business — employees and customers — through shared values and consistent experiences. It ensures that what companies say aligns with what they do. “Culture Branding bridges the gap between what companies say and what they do — by designing the customer and employer brand simultaneously.”5. The Culture Brand Filter The heart of the framework is a powerful AI-driven tool that helps organisations make values-based decisions at speed. “We had clients who’d been deliberating for 12 months and solved it in 12 minutes,” Nader explains.The tool ensures decisions align with three core values, increasing clarity, trust, and cohesion across teams. 6. Quantifying the Impact Culture Branding has delivered dramatic results: 56x faster decision-making96% increase in customer loyalty$2M saved in staff retention43% reduction in hiring costsYet the greatest ROI, Nader says, is time — “the one thing holding us back from becoming better humans.” 7. The Challenge of Implementation Despite its success, many companies hesitate to act. “It’s fear,” Nader admits. “They ask, ‘What do we get?’ — even as I show them the data. But what they’re really missing is the willingness to install the program, not just buy it.” 8. AI, Humanity, and the Future of Culture Nader warns that if businesses don’t integrate empathy and values into their systems now, “we risk becoming cattle to the machine.” “Culture Branding gives humans back time. It lets technology handle the monotonous so we can get back to being better humans.”9. Practical Steps for Leaders If you want to apply Culture Branding in your business this week: Look in the mirror — Ask yourself, “Would you want to work for you?”Ask your team and customers — “Why do you want to work here or buy from us?”Read your reviews — Identify what feedback is consistent, good or bad, and act on it.“Consistent behaviour elicits consistent responses. That’s how trust is built.”💬 Memorable Quotes “Consistent behaviour elicits consistent responses — and that’s the foundation of brand trust.” “Culture Branding designs the inside and the outside of your business at the same time.” “Time is the only thing holding us back from becoming better humans.” “If your values change with your product, you don’t have values — you have preferences.”🏁 Final Takeaway Aligning your brand and culture isn’t a marketing exercise — it’s a business accelerator. When your team and customers tell the same story about who you are, your company moves faster, makes better decisions, and becomes magnetic to the right people. Clarity of values leads to clarity in decisions — and clarity drives growth.🔗 Connect with Nader Safinya Website: blackribbit.comPodcast: Frog TalkLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nadersafinya

    1h 3m
  4. OCT 8

    Culture That Sells: Chris Dyer on Transparency, Trust & Remote Leadership

    When it comes to building a business people actually want to buy, it’s not just about profits — it’s about people. In this episode, Chris Dyer, bestselling author, culture consultant and former CEO of PeopleG2, joins Sam Penny to unpack how company culture directly drives performance, profitability and business valuation. Long before remote work became mainstream, Chris built one of America’s most recognised “Best Places to Work,” scaling a fully virtual company through the GFC and eventually selling it — all by putting culture first. From his Seven Pillars of Culture to radical transparency, and why he ditched one-on-one meetings for faster decision-making, this conversation reveals how culture isn’t soft — it’s a hard-edge advantage that creates enterprise value buyers can see and feel. In this episode: How Chris turned a struggling business during the GFC into an Inc. 5000 success storyWhy transparency (even sharing your P&L) boosts profitability and trustThe “Seven Pillars” that every great culture is built onHow to make remote and hybrid teams thrive — without losing connectionThe secret to “feed forward” instead of “feedback”The quiet quitting myth — and what’s really behind disengagementHow culture impacts valuation (and why buyers pay more for great teams)The meeting revolution: “Cockroach meetings,” “Tiger Teams,” and eliminating one-on-onesWhy the future of leadership depends on empathy, AI adaptability, and human-centred thinkingGuest bio: Chris Dyer is a global culture expert, keynote speaker, and bestselling author of The Power of Company Culture and Remote Work. As the founder and former CEO of PeopleG2, he built one of the world’s first fully remote companies, recognised seven years running as a Best Place to Work. Chris now helps leaders worldwide build transparent, high-performing, human-centred organisations that attract and retain top talent. 👉 Learn more at chrisdyer.com Follow Chris on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/chrispdyer7 On Instagram/TikTok: @chrisdyer Key takeaway A great culture isn’t a perk — it’s a multiplier. When you build transparency, trust, and meaningful connection into your business, you don’t just create happier teams — you build a company worth buying. Subscribe & share If this episode helped you rethink what really drives value in your business, share it with a fellow founder or leader. Subscribe to Built to Sell | Built to Buy wherever you listen to podcasts.

    52 min
  5. OCT 1

    Behaviour Drives Money: Hugh Massie on DNA Insights, Leadership, and Building Exponential Businesses

    What if the way you’re wired is silently driving every financial and business decision you make? In this episode of Built to Sell | Built to Buy, host Sam Penny sits down with Hugh Massie, founder of DNA Behavior International, to explore how our natural behavioural wiring influences money, decision-making, leadership, and ultimately the value of a business. Hugh’s journey from chartered accountant to global entrepreneur reveals why behaviour is the denominator of success. He shares how losing his father at a young age shaped his passion for mentoring boys without fathers, why understanding behaviour is critical in scaling businesses, and how leaders can adopt an exponential mindset to unlock massive growth. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, investor, team leader, or someone simply looking to make smarter financial choices, this conversation will give you practical steps to align behaviour with money, reduce risk, and open the door to exponential growth. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How behaviour drives money — and why financial outcomes start with self-awarenessThe story of how Hugh built DNA Behavior into a global platform impacting millionsWhy stress reveals your true wiring and how that impacts decision-making under pressureThe role of culture and behavioural alignment in maximising business valuationWhat it means to adopt an exponential mindset vs. incremental growthLessons from Hugh’s initiative Boys Without Fathers, and how mentoring shapes leadershipHow AI and technology are reshaping behavioural insights in businessThree practical steps you can take today to align your behaviour and moneyAbout Hugh Massie Hugh Massie is the Founder and Executive Chairman of DNA Behavior International, a global leader in behavioural profiling and money insights. His tools have been used by thousands of companies and advisors to improve decision-making, leadership, and financial outcomes. Hugh is also passionate about youth mentoring, particularly helping boys who grow up without fathers, and advocates for leaders to integrate purpose and values into business. 👉 Learn more at dnabehavior.com  👉 Contact Hugh: dnacare@dnabehavior.com Resources & Links Explore DNA Behavior insights: dnabehavior.com Connect with Hugh: dnacare@dnabehavior.com Follow Sam Penny and discover more episodes: sampenny.com

    1h 8m
  6. SEP 24

    Jim Penman: From a $24 Lawn-Mowing Gig to a Global Franchise Empire

    What does it take to turn a side hustle into a household name? For Jim Penman, it started with mowing lawns for twenty-four dollars a week — and grew into Jim’s Group, one of the largest and most recognisable franchise networks in Australia and beyond. In this conversation, Jim shares the story of how he built a brand that now stretches across more than 50 industries, why customer service has always been his non-negotiable, and the mindset that helped him grow from a single operator into a leader of thousands. But this isn’t just a business story. It’s a conversation about vision, persistence, and the courage to build something bigger than yourself. Jim opens up about: The leap from working solo to creating a scalable system.Why he believes strong values beat flashy marketing every time.The lessons he learned about resilience, delegation, and trust.How personal discipline and faith shape the way he leads.Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a leader steering a growing organisation, or simply someone fascinated by how ordinary people achieve extraordinary things, Jim’s story offers a rare window into the grit behind the growth. 👉 If you enjoy this episode, you might also love my other podcast Why’d You Think You Could Do That?, where I explore the stories of people who attempt the extraordinary and say yes to the impossible. Find it on Apple, Spotify, or at sampenny.com/brave.

    1h 3m
  7. SEP 15

    From Rock Bottom to Exit: John Williamson’s Journey with Construct Health

    What does it take to build a company, nearly lose it twice, and still walk away with a successful exit? In this episode, Sam Penny sits down with John Williamson, founder of Construct Health. John grew his physiotherapy business to 40 staff, faced near-bankruptcy during the mining downturn, and ultimately rebuilt, restructured, and sold his company to a national group. Along the way, he discovered that resilience isn’t just about spreadsheets and strategy — it’s about daily habits, tough conversations, and choosing to keep turning up when everything inside you wants to quit. Whether you’re an owner thinking about your exit, or a buyer wanting to understand what it really takes behind the numbers, this conversation is packed with lessons you won’t want to miss. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why cash flow discipline matters more than revenue in high-growth businesses.How acquisitions can quickly turn toxic — and what to watch out for in due diligence.The mental and physical habits John used to survive the darkest entrepreneurial moments.How he restructured his business, repaid debts, and rebuilt trust with staff and stakeholders.What it really feels like to walk away after 17 years when you finally sell your company.Quotes from John “I didn’t know if I could do it or not, but I knew I was going to keep turning up.”“Even when you’re growing fast, cash flow is an issue. I learned that the hard way.”“Sometimes survival isn’t about brilliance — it’s about refusing to walk away.”Resources & Links Connect with John Williamson on LinkedIn Learn more about his new venture: Unventured.life (coming soon)Like What You Hear? This episode was originally recorded for Sam’s other podcast, Why’d You Think You Could Do That? — a show about ordinary people doing extraordinary things. If you want more stories of bravery and resilience, follow it wherever you get your podcasts. And don’t forget to subscribe to Built to Sell | Built to Buy so you never miss an episode on maximising value, preparing for exit, and buying businesses the smart way.

    1h 10m
  8. AUG 27

    The Art of the Exit: How to Sell Smart and Buy Right with Broker Nathan Hulls

    What does it really take to sell your business for the best possible price—or to buy one without getting burned? In this episode of Built to Sell | Built to Buy, I sit down with Nathan Hulls, a seasoned business broker and exit advisor with Link Business Brokers. Nathan’s journey spans from starting his first lawn mowing business at 12, to running companies across tech, retail, and fitness, and now guiding business owners and buyers through the high-stakes world of acquisitions. With his unique blend of real-world business ownership and brokerage expertise, Nathan reveals: Why being “exit ready” matters more than wanting to exit—and how to prepare your business years before you sell.The psychology of the deal: how motivation, storytelling, and empathy shape both buying and selling outcomes.The biggest mistakes sellers make (and how to avoid becoming a “dumpster fire” listing).How buyers can protect themselves—from red flags in due diligence to spotting when emotions cloud judgment.Why culture and fit can outweigh the financials in making a business sale stick.The one surprising sale that smashed expectations—going from a $5M appraisal to a $12M deal.Whether you’re a business owner eyeing an exit or a buyer chasing your dream acquisition, Nathan breaks down the numbers, systems, and human factors that truly drive value. 👉 If you’re planning to sell in the next 12 months, his number one piece of advice could save you years of regret. 👉 If you’re buying your first business, his due diligence checklist will keep you from making an emotional mistake. 🔑 Key Takeaways Exit success starts with preparation—years before you plan to sell.Buyers don’t just buy profit; they buy confidence in the future.Culture, systems, and owner-independence drive valuation far beyond the P&L.The right broker doesn’t just list a business; they connect people, stories, and strategies.📬 Connect with Nathan Hulls LinkedIn: Nathan Hulls Email: nathan.hulls@linkbusiness.com.auIf you want to work directly with Sam, head to sampenny.com/action

    53 min

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