Bula COP31!

Heidi Dumesich and Jack Whelan

Bula COP31 is a podcast for anyone wanting to understand what it means for Australia and the Türkiye to co-host COP31 in 2026, and why this moment is influential in the UNFCCC process. Australia will be putting the Pacific Islands at the forefront of the climate negotiations to ensure adaptation and infrastructure investments flow to the region. Your hosts are Heidi Dumesich and Jack Whelan. Jack is a proud boomer who started his sustainability career long before it was considered ‘cool’. His experience spans the earliest COPs and reaches across business, industry, government, development agencies, NGOs, and the UN. He’s worked with the International Chamber of Commerce and the World Business Council on Sustainable Development; and across Asia-Pacific with the Pacific Region Infrastructure Facility, Asian Development Bank, and World Bank. Jack was nominated by Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade to the design team that established the IRIS initiative, supporting climate- and disaster-resilient infrastructure in Small Island Developing States — work that sits at the heart of Pacific climate priorities. Heidi Dumesich is a millennial environmental scientist focused on implementing practical solutions. She’s the seasoned podcaster behind Life on Planet A, and currently a Sustainability Manager at Ventia, leading an Infrastructure Sustainability Council rating for a major road project. Heidi brings a fresh, grounded perspective on climate action and how sustainability plays out across communities and sectors. Bula COP31 explores what really happens behind the scenes of a COP — with a special focus on how Pacific leadership, values, and voices shape the global climate agenda. Through candid conversations with stakeholders across Pacific governments, Australian agencies, industry, civil society, youth, and community groups, we unpack how climate diplomacy in our region is driven by relationships, resilience, and shared responsibility. Whether you're a policymaker, business leader, activist, Pacific climate champion, or simply COP-curious, this podcast is your guide to getting the most out of COP31 — and understanding how it can deliver for the Blue Pacific Continent. Tune in, get engaged, and say Bula COP31!

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 'Q' for Queensland & Queenstown: COP31 Türkiye Brief

    Recorded right after Australia's surprise 2-0 World Cup win over Türkiye, Heidi sat down with Selen İnal — founder and editor of the COP31 Türkiye Brief (cop31tr.com) — for a wide-ranging conversation that covers everything from waste and electrification to women in climate leadership and what makes Turkish coffee so special. Selen is a Turkish engineer, entrepreneur and climate communicator who has attended four COPs and built an independent, volunteer-run platform to bring technical expertise and diverse voices into the COP conversation. Her portal — free to publish in for anyone with 10+ years of experience in energy transition or climate change — is fast becoming one of the most rigorous sources of COP31 commentary outside the formal negotiating rooms. In this episode they cover: 🔋 Electrification — the 35% electrification target announced at SB62 in Bonn, why coupling electrification with phasing out fossil fuels is non-negotiable, and why the Socceroos' "just score more goals" strategy might be a metaphor for the energy transition ♻️ Zero Waste Forum in Istanbul — what happened when two thousand participants packed a plenary room under a ceiling of ocean projections, why methane from organic waste is one of the most underestimated climate problems, and why copy-pasting European circular economy solutions into developing countries doesn't work 🌍 Waste and the global south — the uncomfortable conversation at the forum about developed countries exporting their waste problems to less developed ones 👩 Women in climate leadership — why Sally Higgins as Australia's youth climate champion matters, why three of the five current UN Secretary-General candidates are women, and what having a woman in that role for the first time in history could mean 🤝 Turkey and Australia — two countries whose destinies are suddenly intertwined through a shared COP presidency, a World Cup match and a growing desire to actually fix this thing Plus: how to make the perfect Turkish coffee (the foam is everything). 🔗 Follow the COP31 Türkiye Brief: cop31tr.com | LinkedIn: COP31 Türkiye Brief Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram  & LinkedIn

    21 min
  2. Jun 7

    Episode 'P' for Palau: The Palau Pledge

    With COP31 just six months away, Heidi brings Jack — and all of us — up to speed on the rapidly shifting climate diplomacy landscape. From Istanbul to Bonn, Palau to Queensland, this episode maps the crowded pre-COP calendar and asks what it all adds up to. COP31 host Turkey is ramping up its diplomatic presence: COP President Murat Kurum is in constant motion — most recently at the Copenhagen Climate Ministerial, where he joined Azerbaijan and Brazil in signing the "Belem Mission to 1.5" — a joint push to strengthen national climate contributions, accelerate adaptation, and scale up implementation. And UN Climate High-Level Champion Samed Agirbas is consulting stakeholders on what earns a place on the Action Agenda. We share our conversation with Selen Inal, founder of the COP31 Turkiye Brief — a must-follow resource as Antalya approaches. Plus, Australia and Turkey's joint COP31 Youth Climate Champion has been announced: Sally Higgins, a farmer from Queensland, who'll be saying Bula! to us soon. In the Pacific, preparations are intensifying. A Pacific Islands Forum Leaders Meeting in Palau in September carries the theme BELAU — Building Economies, Life, Action, Unity. A Pre-COP lands in Fiji in October. And a landmark new Pacific Resilience Facility has been established by Treaty, with Australia making a substantial initial contribution to channel climate finance to vulnerable island states. And before all of that: the SB64 Subsidiary Body meetings open in Bonn on 8 June, where government officials will be hammering out the technical and policy groundwork for COP31 negotiations on finance, mitigation, adaptation, and transparency. #BulaCOP32 #COP31 #ClimateAction #UNFCCC #PacificClimate #ClimateFinance #Belem #NetZero #PacificResilience #ClimateJustice #COP31Turkiye #SB64 #Bonn #ClimatePolicy #Pacific #Palau #Fiji #Tuvalu #MarshallIslands #Vanuatu #YouthClimate #Podcast #ClimatePodcast #Sustainability #GlobalClimateAction Links from the podcast: https://www.palaupledge.com/unfccc.int › sb64June Climate Meetings (SB64) - UNFCCChttps://globalzerowasteforum.orghttps://sdg.iisd.org/events/55th-pacific-islands-forum-leaders-meeting/ Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram  & LinkedIn

    25 min
  3. Apr 14

    Episode 'O' Oceania: The Future of COP with Fossil Versus Future

    This episode is part two of our collaboration with Fossil vs Future—we recommend listening to part one first. As the world looks ahead to COP31 this November, hosted by Türkiye with Australia leading the negotiations, this episode brings together voices from across continents and generations. Jack and Heidi are joined by James Cameron and Daisy Nicholls (hosts of Fossil Versus Future) for a timely conversation on what we hope—and need—to see from this year’s conference. Together, we unpack the key questions shaping COP31: What will make it onto the Action Agenda? Why is the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty Initiative gaining momentum? And if we could write it ourselves, what should the COP31 closing speech actually say? Along the way, we explore the geopolitical and economic context underpinning the negotiations—from shifting energy systems to the role of emerging climate alliances—and reflect on what meaningful progress could look like in a critical decade for climate action. Further listening & resources: United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change – Learn more about the Paris Agreement and Article 6International Energy Agency – Data and analysis on global energy trendsInternational Institute for Sustainable Development – Follow negotiations through the Earth Negotiations BulletinThanks for listening—and be sure to follow Bula COP31 to stay part of the conversation. Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram  & LinkedIn

    52 min
  4. Apr 1

    Episode 'N' for Nauru: COP31 with Fossil Versus Future

    Episode intro / context: COP31 will be held in Antalya, Türkiye, from 9 to 20 November 2026 — but the Pacific is at the centre of it all. While Türkiye handles the logistics and operations of the conference, Australia will lead the negotiations. And crucially, the Pre-COP will be hosted right here in Fiji, supported by the Government of Australia. For us at Bula COP31, this is exactly what we've been advocating for: an unprecedented opportunity to bring the world to the Pacific, to witness climate impacts and solutions firsthand. Episode description: In this collaborative, cross-continental episode, we're joined by James and Daisy — hosts of Fossil Versus Future— for an intergenerational conversation about the COP process. Jack and Heidi sit down with James, who takes the hot seat to share what he's witnessed on the ground at previous COPs. How can the COP presidency shape outcomes? How does geopolitics drive climate diplomacy? And is it time for the process itself to be reformed? Recommendations:  Want to go deeper on the co-hosting arrangement between Australia and Türkiye? That's exactly what we unpack on Bula COP31 — give us a listen.Advocates & Resources: Türkiye holds the formal COP31 Presidency, managing all operational and logistical requirements, with the conference and World Leaders Summit physically taking place in Antalya. But Australia's Minister for Climate Change and Energy, Chris Bowen, will serve as President of Negotiations — a role with exclusive authority over the agenda, draft texts, and appointment of co-facilitators. This creative arrangement was designed to break a diplomatic deadlock that would otherwise have sent the conference to Bonn, Germany, and left the world without focused negotiation leadership for a year.An intergovernmental organisation giving voice to small island nations on the issues that threaten their very existence.BINGO (Business and Industry Non-Governmental Organizations) — the formal constituency representing business and industry observers within the UNFCCC process.Originally founded in 1971 as the South Pacific Forum, the Pacific Islands Forum is an 18-member intergovernmental body that unites the region to tackle its most pressing challenges — including the climate crisis.The Carbon War by Jeremy Leggett — A firsthand account of the climate negotiations and the relentless efforts of fossil fuel interests — the so-called "carbon club" — to derail them. Essential reading for anyone wanting to understand the politics behind the process.The precautionary principle: the idea that when harm is plausible, we act — even before the science is complete. A principle the Pacific has long called on the world to apply.(2017) — Just weeks before hosting COP23, Fiji made history by issuing a sovereign green bond, raising FJD 100m (USD 50m) to fund climate mitigation and adaptation. Pacific leadership in action.(2018) — Talanoa is a Pacific tradition: inclusive, participatory, transparent dialogue. When Fiji held the COP23 Presidency, it brought Talanoa to the world stage — launching the Talanoa Dialogue to invite everyone into the conversation about climate solutions. That spirit lives on in everything we do at Bula COP31. Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram  & LinkedIn

    40 min
  5. Feb 6

    Episode 'K' for Kenta: Youth Voices from the Pacific

    In this episode, Bula COP31 has a special guest all the way from Vanuatu, Kenta Sayama, the Climate and Environment specialist in UNICEF Vanuatu. Kenta shares his inspiring personal journey from Japan to the Pacific, revealing how international experiences in Brazil, the UK, and Japan have shaped his innovative approach to climate advocacy. He dives into the unique challenges small island nations face — from rising sea levels and saltwater intrusion to the cultural and mental health impacts of climate change — and explains how new financial mechanisms like the Loss and Damage Fund and Green Climate Fund are opening doors for vulnerable countries. You'll learn about real projects like Vanuatu’s Coastal Adaptation Project (VCAP) and the Pacific Resilience Facility, which are helping communities build real resilience against climate impacts. We break down the most effective strategies for youth engagement, from grassroots networks like Vanuatu Climate Action Network (VCAN) and Pacific Islands Climate Action Network (PICAN) to navigating the daunting logistics of remote island participation. Kenta emphasizes the importance of cultural understanding, contextual solutions, and ensuring youth voices lead climate negotiations, not just attend as token figures. He highlights the historic influence of Vanuatu's Pacific youth in global judicial actions like the International Court of Justice (ICJ)  advisory opinion on climate justice — a groundbreaking moment in international law that affirms our collective responsibility to act. Why does this matter? Because the future of climate resilience hinges on local-level action, global solidarity, and inclusive leadership. Missing out on this vital insight risks perpetuating a cycle where small island voices are drowned out, and effective climate solutions remain out of reach. This episode is an essential listen for policymakers, activists, young leaders, and anyone invested in climate justice — because real change starts by amplifying the voices that are most at risk. Prepare to be inspired, informed, and motivated to make a difference. Whether you’re a Pacific youth seeking guidance, a global citizen passionate about climate justice, or a supporter of empowering local action, this conversation reveals the bold steps needed to turn hope into tangible impact.  Tune in now — your role in shaping a resilient Pacific starts here. Links and resources: Get involved with PICAN and VCANUNICEF - Australia Pacific Youth Climate Dialogue Background information on the International Court of Justice (ICJ)  advisory opinion on climate justice Vanuatu Coastal Adaptation Project (VCAP)Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram  & LinkedIn

    34 min

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Bula COP31 is a podcast for anyone wanting to understand what it means for Australia and the Türkiye to co-host COP31 in 2026, and why this moment is influential in the UNFCCC process. Australia will be putting the Pacific Islands at the forefront of the climate negotiations to ensure adaptation and infrastructure investments flow to the region. Your hosts are Heidi Dumesich and Jack Whelan. Jack is a proud boomer who started his sustainability career long before it was considered ‘cool’. His experience spans the earliest COPs and reaches across business, industry, government, development agencies, NGOs, and the UN. He’s worked with the International Chamber of Commerce and the World Business Council on Sustainable Development; and across Asia-Pacific with the Pacific Region Infrastructure Facility, Asian Development Bank, and World Bank. Jack was nominated by Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade to the design team that established the IRIS initiative, supporting climate- and disaster-resilient infrastructure in Small Island Developing States — work that sits at the heart of Pacific climate priorities. Heidi Dumesich is a millennial environmental scientist focused on implementing practical solutions. She’s the seasoned podcaster behind Life on Planet A, and currently a Sustainability Manager at Ventia, leading an Infrastructure Sustainability Council rating for a major road project. Heidi brings a fresh, grounded perspective on climate action and how sustainability plays out across communities and sectors. Bula COP31 explores what really happens behind the scenes of a COP — with a special focus on how Pacific leadership, values, and voices shape the global climate agenda. Through candid conversations with stakeholders across Pacific governments, Australian agencies, industry, civil society, youth, and community groups, we unpack how climate diplomacy in our region is driven by relationships, resilience, and shared responsibility. Whether you're a policymaker, business leader, activist, Pacific climate champion, or simply COP-curious, this podcast is your guide to getting the most out of COP31 — and understanding how it can deliver for the Blue Pacific Continent. Tune in, get engaged, and say Bula COP31!