But Her Lyrics...

Shawna Potter

Join Shawna Potter as she takes a deep dive into the lyrics and politics of her band War On Women and other artists you love. She'll chat with bandmates, interview experts and activists on relevant social justice issues, and share the inspirations and stories behind the songs. This pod is for fans of the band, as well as folks interested in feminism, politics, punk, music composition, writing, and more. Premiered December 9, 2020. Find all episode transcripts and important links here: https://shawnapotter.com/#/but-her-lyrics-podcast/ (photo: Justin Borucki)

  1. MAR 18

    "Lullaby" with Oceanator - 044

    SHOW NOTES: Shawna chats with Elise Okusami of the band Oceanator about the value of storytelling and not waiting for a big hero to save us through their song, “Lullaby.” Also? The pitterpatter of Rosie’s paws on the floor (and scratching and shaking and just generally making sound), Oceanator as a family affair, what we’re like to tour with, and who else lists Dookie as their first punk record? SHOW LINKS: Oceanator on Bandcamp: https://oceanator.bandcamp.com/track/lullaby-2 Oceanator on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/oceanator WAR ON WOMEN/Oceanator tour info: linktr.ee/waronwomen  Music to Life: https://www.musictolife.org/ Mood Machine book - Liz Pelly: https://booksaremagic.net/item/gQpiPqSJBXgQuxapRjFf2Q/lists/L6k6O686GxwY/ ABIYOYO book - Pete Seeger: https://mpt.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/abiyoyo-video/reading-rainbow-stories/ Anansi the spider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anansi Baba Yaga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga Freedom Sounds album: https://folklife.si.edu/magazine/freedom-sounds-from-smithsonian-folkways Pears: https://pearstheband.bandcamp.com/album/pears SHAWNA’S LINKS: shawnapotter.com The new Safer Spaces: Online Course: https://shawnapotter.com/safer-spaces-course Making Spaces Safer book: https://www.akpress.org/making-spaces-safer-book.html Request fun video messages: https://www.cameo.com/shawnapotterwow All things War On Women: linktr.ee/waronwomen  https://www.youtube.com/@shawnapotter

    39 min
  2. 06/27/2025

    25 Years of Exotic Fever Records with Katy Otto - 042

    Shawna throws out her usual podcast format to chat with drummer, activist, and lyricist Katy Otto on the heels of her celebrating 25 years of running her record label, Exotic Fever Records. If you own a copy of War On Women’s “Improvised Weapons,” you have an EXF release! They talk writing process, the things we’re working on (personally and musically), dads of daughters, Heart, Rosanne Cash, the Geffen Lollapalooza, the intimacy of co-writing lyrics, a little light misandry towards powerful men, being great at something you don’t feel like doing, becoming feminist because you survived being a teenage girl, and making bell hooks a mix tape. Also: Salt-n-Pepa, punk recipes, Euro punks, the military budget, Landis Expandis, a Fugazi in every town, record players, and our Bikini Kill cover band, Rah Rah Replica. Patron-only bonus moment available exclusively on Patreon, so sign up to catch that and other cool stuff from Shawna! This episode is sponsored by Pupcakes and Pawstries and Ronnie of Navarro Hair Design. SHOW LINKS: Katy is on the cover of *that* Q And Not U album!! Read about it here: https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/430176/beep-happening-how-q-and-not-u-made-a-classic-album-and-its-cover/ Exotic Fever Records - exoticfever.com Bald Rapunzel -  https://baldrapunzel.bandcamp.com/ Del Cielo - https://delcielodc.bandcamp.com/album/us-vs-them Trophy Wife - https://trophywifetheband.bandcamp.com/ Sun Within -  https://www.instagram.com/sunwithinband whitepicketfence - https://whitepicketfencedc.bandcamp.com/track/how Rah Rah Replica’s first show! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmDqaMaT2ZU Men Can Stop Rape - https://mcsr.org/ HIPS - https://www.hips.org/ Improvised Weapons link: https://www.exoticfever.com/artists.php?id=115 Secure Relating by Sue Marriott Nonviolent Communication by Rosenberg SHAWNA’S LINKS: shawnapotter.com Making Spaces Safer: https://www.akpress.org/making-spaces-safer-book.html https://www.youtube.com/@shawnapotter https://www.cameo.com/shawnapotterwow linktr.ee/waronwomen EURO TOUR INFO: destiny-tourbooking.com

    51 min
  3. 01/27/2025

    Interviewing the Interviewer with Occupy the Void's Christina Rowatt - 040

    After being interviewed by Christina Rowatt for her mental health podcast Occupy the Void, host Shawna turned the tables and interviewed her for But Her Lyrics! An enjoyable chat about what it’s like to be a woman in journalism and podcasting, her favorite interview moments, and how a love of language has led her life. Also: Rosie barking, the Extra Extra jingle, having a face for TV, passionate metal fans that also love Rihanna, how lyrics affect us emotionally, men and men-tal health, Shawna is not an expert in anything, “it’s all cabaret”, creative process, art does not have to be made for public consumption, and can the internet help us find female cinematographers in australia??? SHOW LINKS: Her War is Our War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9JU7ECTdXc Occupy the Void: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/occupy-the-void-with-xtina/id1733957293 Revolver Fan First podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLANorT3Y7McP3s6W82Ucxz_LQZtSrbuIi Insta: https://www.instagram.com/xtina_rowatt/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheVoidwithChristina Soundgarden “Fell on Black Days” - I like the music video version better than the album version, so here you go:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySzrJ4GRF7s&list=RDySzrJ4GRF7s&index=1 SHAWNA’S LINKS: shawnapotter.com Making Spaces Safer: https://www.akpress.org/making-spaces-safer-book.html https://www.youtube.com/@shawnapotter https://www.cameo.com/shawnapotterwow linktr.ee/waronwomen

    51 min
  4. 12/09/2024

    "Rain Yr Hand" with Rainer Maria - 039

    In this episode of But Her Lyrics, host Shawna speaks to Caithlin De Marrais, bassist and co-singer and -lyricist for 2nd wave emo band, Rainer Maria. On Thanksgiving morning they dove deep into an early song “Rain Yr Hand,” about how accessing all ages music making spaces is fundamental to our development. Overall themes? Reflection, hindsight, growth, and community. There will be a Patreon-exclusive bonus clip where they discuss what thanksgiving brings to mind, how the War On Women song "This Stolen Land" applies to it, and more. Also in this episode: shoutout to Rocketown in Franklin, TN (rip), kids needing a place to go to make good trouble, extreme accessibility, anyone can play music, imposter syndrome or authenticity?, diversity is our survival, the hindsight of a reunion 20 years later, a chance to reflect, confronting our fear, and guess what - emo’s big now! SHOW LINKS: https://rainermaria.bandcamp.com/ https://www.instagram.com/rainermariamusic Skeletal Lightning -- https://skeletallightning.com/ CAITHLIN DE MARRAIS NEW ALBUM, 'LEARNING TO LIVE WITH FIRE', OUT MARCH 2025! Sounds of Saving (SOS) -- https://www.soundsofsaving.org/ We’re a music and mental health nonprofit that designs and provides tools, content, resources, and curriculum to young people, ages 14 to 24, on how to discover and utilize music to support their mental health and wellness. Just Accessible Music (JAM) -- https://www.justaccessiblemusic.com/ Making music accessible to people of all ages and abilities.  Figurenotes -- https://figurenotes.org/ Figurenotes was created at the Resonaari school in Finland by music educators Kaarlo Uusitalo and Markku Kaikkonen. Initially designed to enable those with learning disabilities to play music, it has since developed into a tool to help anybody get started.  Very intuitive to those with Autism Spectrum Disorder. But Her Lyrics This Stolen Land episode (mentioned in Patreon-exclusive bonus clip of this interview) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-stolen-land-pt-1-004/id1538652998?i=1000512385785 Kaia’s response to why we use YR instead of YOUR: “Kaia said it was slang we often used in written notes at the time. According to t’internet it originated with the Beat generation (we were definitely reading poetry at the time) and was later repopularized in the indie rock world circa 1980s by Sonic Youth.” SHAWNA’S LINKS: shawnapotter.com Making Spaces Safer: https://www.akpress.org/making-spaces-safer-book.html https://www.youtube.com/@shawnapotter https://www.cameo.com/shawnapotterwow linktr.ee/waronwomen

    57 min
4.9
out of 5
14 Ratings

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Join Shawna Potter as she takes a deep dive into the lyrics and politics of her band War On Women and other artists you love. She'll chat with bandmates, interview experts and activists on relevant social justice issues, and share the inspirations and stories behind the songs. This pod is for fans of the band, as well as folks interested in feminism, politics, punk, music composition, writing, and more. Premiered December 9, 2020. Find all episode transcripts and important links here: https://shawnapotter.com/#/but-her-lyrics-podcast/ (photo: Justin Borucki)

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