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Adrian Lefler

Cut through the AI noise with Adrian Lefler, a 15-year dental industry veteran who's actually using this stuff. No theory, no sales pitches, just the tactical AI implementations that are transforming dental practices right now. In 20-30 minute episodes, Adrian brings you real practitioners sharing exactly how they're using AI tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, and other LLM's to save time, increase revenue, and stay ahead of the curve. Whether it's automating patient communication, streamlining workflows, or implementing diagnostic AI, you'll get step-by-step guidance from people who've done it successfully. This isn't another "AI is the future" podcast. It's your practical guide to implementing AI in your dental practice today – without the hype, without the fluff, and without wasting your time. Perfect for busy dental professionals who want actionable insights they can implement immediately. Because while everyone else is talking about AI, we're showing you how to actually use it. New episodes weekly. Real results guaranteed.

  1. 6d ago

    63 : Why Great Dental Technology Fails Inside DSOs with Dave Salciccioli

    Dentistry has never had better technology coming into it, and it has never been less able to put it to work. Dave Salciccioli of Relay explains why DSO technology implementation breaks down between the signed contract and real adoption. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTOn this episode of BYTE SIZED, Adrian Lefler sits down with Dave Salciccioli, who leads Relay, a consulting firm working both sides of the vendor and DSO relationship. Dave entered dental in 2018 and spent years as a fractional COO and VP of operations, usually sitting between the vendor and the operations team to make the technology actually work. Dave's core argument is that the bottleneck has moved. Vendors can now ship more in three months than they once did in three years, a point Overjet CEO Wardah Inam made at the recent Overjet AI summit. New AI entrants sell what Dave calls AI theater, incumbents keep bolting on features, and DSOs run three or four pilots at once with no extra change management capacity. Adrian and Dave dig into the messy middle between contract and outcome: sales reps making undocumented promises, 8 to 12 week onboarding windows that are too short for real adoption, and voice AI rollouts that fail because scheduling templates and overflow columns were never built. Adrian shares what his team learned helping develop Annie AI, where scheduling quirks across practices took months to solve. They also cover the questions to ask before signing, PMS read versus write access, why the DSO middle management layer disappeared, the real cost of building your own tools with Claude, and how Relay works alongside DSO Compass, founded by Matt McGaw. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. Why do DSO software rollouts go wrong after the contract is signed? A common cause is a broken handoff between sales and implementation. Reps promise customizations to close the deal, those promises never get documented, and the implementation team delivers the standard package. Months later the DSO feels shortchanged and the vendor calls it extra scope. Documented scope and recorded sales calls prevent it. 2. Who is responsible for software implementation at a DSO, the vendor or the DSO? Both. Vendors should get a DSO about 80% of the way with technical setup, training, and onboarding that runs longer than the typical 8 to 12 weeks. The DSO owns the last mile: provider buy-in, updated SOPs, leadership, and project management that turn the tool into a daily habit. Vendors lack the authority to force that. 3. What does a dental practice need in place before implementing an AI phone receptionist? The operational foundation has to exist first. Scheduling templates, defined blocks, provider time within those blocks, and overflow columns must be built into the PMS or a voice AI agent has nothing reliable to schedule against. The DSO also needs a defined use case, such as inbound calls, outbound scheduling, or outbound billing, before rollout. 4. What questions should a DSO ask a dental technology vendor before signing? Ask whether real customers use the product in front of patients today, and whether you can speak with one directly. Ask what made implementation hard for other customers and what your group must fix first. If PMS integration matters, ask whether the product has read-only access or true read and write access right now. 5. Should a DSO build its own software with AI tools like Claude instead of paying for vendor subscriptions? Usually not for core systems. Groups replacing a $300 per month subscription with custom builds can end up carrying $10,000 a month in labor and token costs, plus maintenance and bug fixes. Never rebuild a system of record like the PMS. Build narrow systems of action only where no product exists, and keep humans in the loop. ABOUTDave Salciccioli leads Relay, a consulting firm that helps technology vendors sell into and implement with enterprise dental groups, and helps DSOs evaluate, select, and roll out new technology. Since entering dental in 2018, Dave has served as a fractional COO for founder-led and doctor-led DSOs and held VP of operations roles at larger national groups, focused on change management and adoption. Relay works alongside DSO Compass, founded by Matt McGaw. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Dave Salciccioli Website: https://relaywithus.com/ Website: www.dsocompass.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-salciccioli-1b286b158/ Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #DSO #DentalTechnology #AIinDentistry #ChangeManagement #DSOLeadership #BYTESIZED

  2. Sep 25

    62 : Overpromised and Under-Deployed: The Dental Tech Buying Problem

    Most dental technology doesn't fail because the product is bad. It fails because nobody planned how to deploy it, and that problem usually starts before the DSO ever signs the contract. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTOn this episode of BYTE SIZED, Adrian Lefler sits down with Matt McGaw, founder of DSO Compass, an independent publication covering how dental service organizations select, evaluate, and implement technology. Matt sold on the vendor side of dentistry starting in 2008 and kept hitting the same wall: the product he was selling wasn't always what the client needed. So he left corporate sales to build a source of direction with no pitch attached. They dig into why the market got so crowded so fast. A healthcare founders event Matt attends jumped from roughly 60 to 80 founders to about 180, driven by AI tools like Claude that let almost anyone build a product. Good for innovation, bad for evaluation. AI receptionists are the clearest example, with at least a hundred new entrants last year while practice management systems build the same feature in. Then they get into where tech purchases fall apart. Matt blames vendors who underinvest in deployment, and Adrian points to sales compensation that pays reps to close, not to see a product through implementation. Matt lays out how a good pilot runs: locations picked with a methodology, an internal DSO champion, KPIs set up front, and success defined before day 30, 60, or 90. They also tackle pay-to-play recommendations in the dental industry, why DSO Compass takes no revenue share from vendors, how it stays separate from sister company Relay, and why small groups hoping to sell to a DSO need standardized PMS and VoIP systems first. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. What should a DSO ask a technology vendor before signing a contract? Ask exactly how the vendor plans to deploy the technology across your locations, in detail. That means which locations get piloted and why, which KPIs will be measured, who owns the project on both sides, and what success looks like at the end of the pilot. A vague deployment answer is a warning sign that implementation will stall. 2. Is the surge of new dental software startups good or bad for DSOs? Both. The flood of new products is good for innovation because new entrants push incumbent vendors to improve, but it makes evaluation much harder. A healthcare founders event Matt McGaw attends jumped from 60 to 80 founders to about 180 in a year. AI receptionists are the clearest example, with at least a hundred new competitors in the past year. 3. Why do dental technology vendors oversell to DSOs? Sales reps are usually paid to close deals and retain clients for a month or three, not to see implementation through. That pushes reps to promise features that aren't deployed yet. DSOs should ask vendors to separate what is live in the product today from what is on the roadmap, and hold them to it. 4. What should a small dental group standardize before selling to a DSO? Standardize the practice management system and VoIP phone system across every location. Private equity buyers and DSOs look for consistent systems, and a mixed PMS environment is a valuation problem. Groups running different software at each office will have a harder time selling and should expect a lower multiple than a standardized group. 5. How much of a dental technology rollout's success is decided at the point of sale? Far less than most vendors think. Matt McGaw estimates only about 20 to 30 percent of the work is done when the contract is signed, maybe 40 percent at most. The rest happens during implementation, which takes months of workflow change inside the practices, and vendors that don't staff for it rarely deliver what they promised. ABOUTMatt McGaw is the founder and CEO of DSO Compass, an independent publication focused on how DSOs select, evaluate, and implement technology, and what happens operationally after the sale. He worked in dental vendor sales from 2008 before launching DSO Compass around 2021, and his newsletter now reaches roughly 8,000 readers. Matt is also a partner in Relay, a consulting and deployment firm staffed by former DSO operators. He is based in Utah. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Matthew McGaw Website: https://dsocompass.com/ Website: https://relaywithus.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewmcgaw/ Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalTechnology #DSO #DentalMarketing #DentalAI #DSOCompass #DentalPracticeManagement #BYTESIZED

  3. Sep 11

    61 : The Orchestrator: How to Rebuild a DSO Marketing Team Around AI

    Most DSOs think adopting AI in their marketing means buying better tools. The ones getting real results are rebuilding how the team works. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTMarc Heffner spent nearly three decades in Fortune 500, healthcare, and dental marketing before running marketing for a 14-location DSO. He tells Adrian Lefler how he rebuilt patient acquisition from the phones up: a 24-person call center moved from operations into marketing, daily KPI meetings, and coaching off recorded calls. Spend dropped by half and new bookings rose 80% in about five months. Then it turns to what DSO executives get wrong about AI. Ask how a group uses it and the answer is usually Pearl, Overjet, or ChatGPT posts written from scratch every day. Neither is a strategy. Marc lays out his layered model: specialized agents, an orchestrator agent on top (his is named Orin), a feedback loop, governance rules, and a human approval gate. Adrian compares it to the command and control agent My Social Practice builds in Claude for DSO clients. They also get honest about teams: the copywriter turned automation editor reviewing three times the output, the automation engineer role now starting around $182,000, and the double-blind problem where executives do not know what is possible and no marketing team will volunteer that half its work can be automated. It closes on HIPAA, RAG, and Kaxori. See what AI could be worth to your organization. Run the NXST LEAP ROI Readiness Index: https://nuparadym.com/nxst-leap-roi-calculator/ QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. What is the difference between using AI tools and having an AI strategy in a DSO? Owning a diagnostic platform like Pearl or Overjet, or having the marketing team write posts in ChatGPT, is tool use, not strategy. Strategy means deciding which workflows AI should own, connecting the tools so they talk to each other, tying output to financial results, and building an orchestration layer to manage all of it. 2. How does an AI orchestrator model work for DSO marketing? Start with specialized agents, each trained like a junior team member for content, graphics, or analysis and loaded with the organization's voice. Put an orchestrator agent on top to manage them, add a feedback loop that records what worked, set governance rules, and require human approval before anything publishes. The human reviews in minutes instead of producing for days. 3. What happens to marketing roles like copywriters when a DSO automates content with AI? Roles merge rather than vanish. A copywriter becomes an automation editor who judges the output, catches drift, and tells the automation engineer what to fix. My Social Practice went from two copywriters to one editor producing roughly three times the copy, and nobody was fired. The automation engineer role, new this year, now starts around $182,000. 4. How can a DSO use patient data with AI without violating HIPAA? Keep the data closed. Retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) lets a model read a protected file of patient data and generate output without sharing anything to the open internet, unlike a standard ChatGPT conversation. Local language models on your own systems go further. Build with cybersecurity input from day one, because dental software vendors already face multimillion-dollar lawsuits over data exposure. 5. How much can a DSO improve new patient bookings by moving the call center under marketing? At a 14-location DSO, moving a 24-person call center from operations into marketing, extending phone hours past 6 p.m. so ads were not going unanswered, holding daily KPI meetings, and coaching staff off recorded calls cut marketing spend in half and lifted new bookings 80% in five months. Everyone who touches a patient is marketing. ABOUTMarc Heffner brings nearly three decades of marketing experience across Fortune 500 companies, healthcare, and dental organizations. He rebuilt patient acquisition for a 14-location DSO and now works as a fractional CMO for emerging DSOs in the 5 to 50 location range. He created the NXST LEAP ROI Readiness Index, which helps dental organizations model the value of generative AI before they invest, and is building Kaxori, an AI-powered job application platform. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Marc Heffner Website: https://nuparadym.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcheffner/ NXST LEAP ROI Readiness Index: https://nuparadym.com/nxst-leap-roi-calculator/ Kaxori: https://kaxori.com/ Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #DSOMarketing #AIinDentistry #FractionalCMO #MarketingAutomation #DSO

  4. Sep 4

    60 : Advocacy, Regulatory Pressure, and the Fight Over How DSOs Are Allowed to Operate

    One state dental board passed a rule that would have changed who gets to own dental equipment and hold office leases, and the DSO industry went to court to stop it. Andrew Smith, CEO of the ADSO, walks through what happened in Colorado and what it signals for the rest of the country. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTAdrian Lefler sits down with Andrew Smith, CEO of the Association of Dental Support Organizations, the group representing roughly half the DSO market and about 19 billion dollars in revenue. Smith sums up the mandate in three words: protect, promote, and position the DSO model. Roughly 65 to 70 percent of that work is government relations, with lobbyists in more than 30 states watching legislation and dental board activity week by week. Then they get into Colorado. The rule came from the dental board, not the legislature. It would have forced supported dentists to take over leases and equipment the DSO had been holding, added variable fee restrictions, and opened up records demands. The ADSO sued on the grounds the board reached past the authority the legislature actually gave it. The board then voted unanimously to stay the rule while the case plays out. Smith thinks the board underestimated the operational damage rather than set out to attack the model, but he places it inside a wider anti-corporate mood showing up in state politics on both sides of the aisle. The back half covers insurance. Smith names the wins that have actually landed at the state level, explains why the industry still has weak negotiating leverage, and makes the case that consolidation is the thing that changes that. He also compares the rise of DSOs to what ride sharing did to taxi medallions, and explains where that comparison holds and where it falls apart. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. What does a dental industry association actually do for practices that owners never see? Most of the work is government relations. The ADSO keeps lobbyists in more than 30 states monitoring every dental bill, sunset act, and dental board agenda, then decides which items have real momentum. Roughly 65 to 70 percent of the organization's effort goes there, because a single adverse rule can reshape how practices legally operate. 2. Can a state dental board change how a dental practice structures its business? Only within the authority the legislature granted it. Dental boards exist for licensee discipline and patient protection. When a board writes rules on leases, equipment ownership, or fee structures without statutory backing, it can be challenged in court as overreach, which is exactly what happened in Colorado. 3. What should a practice do when a new state rule threatens its operating structure? Engage before the rule is final. Submit comments, request meetings, and show regulators the concrete operational impact. Boards often do not understand what a rule costs on the ground. In Colorado, that engagement plus litigation produced a unanimous vote to stay the rule pending the outcome. 4. What dental insurance reforms have actually passed at the state level? Several states banned virtual credit card payments, which let insurers pay providers by card and skim roughly 3 percent as a transaction fee. Others changed assignment of benefits rules so the practice is not chasing patients for reimbursement checks. Network leasing and retroactive denials are the next targets. 5. How much of dentistry is now practiced under the DSO model? Close to 35 percent of dentists practice in a DSO-supported setting, and about 40 percent of graduating dental students go straight into one. Rising school debt and the economics of buying a practice drive most of that. Meanwhile 50 percent of Americans still do not see a dentist annually. ABOUTAndrew Smith is the CEO of the Association of Dental Support Organizations, a role he has held since 2021. Before dentistry he worked in Washington as a multi-client consultant and lobbyist, with earlier stops in political and government offices. At the ADSO he leads advocacy across state legislatures, dental boards, and insurance regulators, and hosts the association's podcast, Thank You for Flossing. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Andrew Smith Website: https://www.theadso.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmulherinsmith/ Instagram: @theadso Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #DSO #ADSO #DentalIndustry #DentalPolicy #GroupDentistry #DentalInsurance

  5. Aug 28

    59 : Is AI in Dentistry Overhyped? Conner Ludlow on Digital Co-workers

    Three years after ChatGPT launched, almost every dental vendor claims to be AI powered. Annie founder Conner Ludlow gives a straight answer on which part is hype and which part is already saving practices real hours. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTAdrian Lefler opens this BYTE SIZED episode with something he keeps running into at shows like ADSO and Dykema. Nearly every company has slapped AI on the logo, and almost nobody can explain what it means. Conner Ludlow, founder and CEO of Annie, agrees the framing is overhyped. He is still bullish on the technology. His fix is to stop leading with AI and start leading with the job you are trying to get done. Then the conversation turns to patients. Practices ask constantly whether patients will hate an AI answering the phone. Conner says some still do, but the reason is a decade of bad phone trees, not a rejection of technology. Adrian describes two recent calls, one with an agent that routed him instantly and one that glitched constantly, and lands on the point that consumers accept AI when it works and revolt when it does not. Annie has moved past website chat and missed call coverage into what Conner now calls a digital coworker. The idea is an always on babysitter over the whole patient base, covering recare, reappointment, appointment confirmations, insurance verification, and a new cancellation feature that fills open slots from the waitlist. He draws a line between open loop automation, which just creates a task for a human, and closed loop automation, which finishes the job. They also get into the labor shortage, whether an AI agent can take a PCI compliant credit card payment, and where revenue cycle management sits on the roadmap. Adrian closes with an idea he wants built: connecting clinical note takers to the front office agent so recare follow ups reference the actual conversation a patient had in the chair. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. Is AI in dentistry overhyped, or is it worth adopting in a practice right now? The marketing is overhyped. The technology is not. Buying because a product says AI leads to failed rollouts. Pick a task that is repetitive, always on, and clearly triggered, then judge the tool by whether the job gets done. Practices that start with the problem instead of the acronym get results. 2. Why do AI rollouts fail in dental practices, and how do you implement one successfully? They fail when a practice throws AI at the wall with no defined job. Start by using everyday tools like ChatGPT so the team learns how AI responds. Then pick one workflow with a clear trigger. Annie assigns every new customer a human trainer who onboards the agent like a new employee. 3. What front office tasks can AI handle in a dental practice beyond answering the phone? Recare outreach, reappointment before a patient goes overdue, appointment confirmations, insurance verification, website chat, and cancellation management that offers an open slot to the waitlist. The pattern is repetitive work with a clear trigger. Lead follow up, incomplete forms, and overdue balances are next on the roadmap. 4. Can AI help with the dental staffing shortage and front desk burnout? Yes. Clinician and front desk recruiting is the top complaint from DSO executives and practice owners, and the good hire you do land gets buried in busywork. Offloading recare calls and confirmations to an agent keeps that person doing the high value work they were hired for, which is what keeps them. 5. How many dental patients ask for a human as soon as an AI answers the phone? About 14 percent, down from roughly 20 percent when Annie launched in 2024. That is the share who request a human immediately, before the agent says anything useful. The number runs lower in orthodontic and pediatric offices, where younger patients are more comfortable with chat and text. ABOUTConner Ludlow is the founder and CEO of Annie, an AI digital coworker built for dental practices. He is a software engineer and former CTO who previously led technology at a nationwide dental call center. He launched Annie in 2024 with website chat and an inbound AI receptionist, and has since expanded it into recare, reappointment, appointment confirmations, insurance verification, and cancellation management. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Conner Ludlow Website: https://www.helloannie.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/connerludlow/ Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #AIinDentistry #DentalAI #AIReceptionist #DentalPracticeManagement #DSO #PatientCommunication

  6. Aug 21

    58 : Personal Branding for Dentists: The Competitive Advantage in the Age of AI

    Personal Branding for Dentists: The Competitive Advantage in the Age of AIEvery dental practice can buy the same technology and publish the same polished content. Christene Marie explains why identity, not tooling, is what actually separates one practice from the next. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTAdrian Lefler talks with Christene Marie, founder and CEO of The Knowing Agency, about why so many dental practices look and sound identical online and what it actually takes to break out of that. Christene works mostly outside dentistry, with brands like Amazon, Toyota, and the NAACP, which is exactly why her read on the industry is useful. She sees the sameness the way a patient sees it. The conversation starts with vision. Before any differentiation work happens, Christene asks the owner where the practice is going. Sell it, scale it, hand it to a kid, or run one location for thirty years. That answer changes everything downstream, including whether the doctor's name and family photos belong on the brand at all. For dentists who do not want to be the face of the practice, she lays out the alternatives: the team, the patients, a mascot, even a therapy dog. From there they get into why emotion drives patient choice. Christene cites Harvard research showing 95 percent of purchase decisions happen in the subconscious, and Adrian connects it to how practices market confidence, pain relief, and what a patient believes they deserve. They also work through the line between empathy and manipulation, and why the experience a practice promises has to match what happens once the patient is in the chair. The back half is practical. Christene walks through her audit process (team survey, patient survey, data review, competitor landscape, tech stack, and whether the right people are in the right seats), how long the whole thing realistically takes, and why implementation is harder than strategy. Adrian pushes on measurement, because creative work that does not move new patient numbers is not worth much. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. How can a dental practice differentiate itself when every practice offers similar services? Start with the owner's long-term vision, then build differentiation backward from it. Whether the plan is to sell, scale, or pass the practice down changes what the brand should look like. Practices that copy competitors end up interchangeable. The ones that stand out anchor messaging in something specific to them. 2. What should a dentist do if they do not want to be the face of their own practice brand? Give patients something else to connect with emotionally. A mascot, a therapy dog, the team, or patient transformations can all carry the brand, the same way Geico uses a gecko. The connection point does not have to be the doctor, but there has to be one. 3. Is technology a strong enough differentiator for a dental practice? No. As soon as a competitor adopts the same tools, the advantage is gone and the experience becomes commoditized. Technology is table stakes. Practices that build the brand on identity, whether that is the doctor, the team, a mascot, or the experience itself, stay memorable and raise customer lifetime value. 4. How much of a patient's decision to choose a dentist happens emotionally rather than logically? Harvard research puts 95 percent of purchase decisions in the subconscious, where emotion lives. Patients call because of an underlying motivation, protecting their family or believing they deserve to look good, not because of a feature list. Website and phone language should speak to that motivation first. 5. How long does a brand strategy or repositioning project take for a dental practice? Give the audit about 60 days, covering team surveys, patient feedback, data review, and a competitor scan. A clear path forward can be mapped in about 30 days after that. Implementation and rollout usually run around six months, and change management is the part practices underestimate. ABOUTChristene Marie is the founder and CEO of The Knowing Agency, a brand clarity and marketing strategy firm built around empathy-driven branding. She has led brand and marketing work for organizations including Amazon, Toyota, the NAACP, and the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, and she hosts Knowing retreats for executives who want to connect self-awareness to how they lead and how they market. Her framework for turning identity into strategy has produced measurable results for entrepreneurs competing in crowded markets, which is why Adrian brought her in to apply it to dentistry. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Christene Marie Website: https://christenemarie.com Website: https://www.theknowingagency.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christenemarie/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christenemarie_ Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #PersonalBranding #DentalPractice #BrandStrategy #DentistryPodcast #PatientExperience #AIinDentistry

  7. Aug 14

    57 : Why Dental Practice Profits Are Shrinking, and How Membership Plans Fix It

    Revenue is up 1.4 percent. Expenses are up 4.9 percent. Jordon Comstock breaks down why PPO heavy dental practices are running harder for less, and what actually fixes it. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTAdrian Lefler sits down with Jordon Comstock, founder and CEO of BoomCloud, to unpack the ADA report on the fiscal squeeze hitting dental practices. Top line revenue grew about 1.4 percent while expenses grew about 4.9 percent, roughly three and a half times faster. Jordon's read on it is blunt. This is a business model problem, not a cost cutting problem. They get into how PPO contracts created the squeeze. Most agreements require write offs in the range of 40 to 55 percent off UCR fees depending on region. Umbrella policies can pull a practice into dozens of networks from a single signature, and claims route through whichever agreement pays least. Carriers are now using AI to deny and delay claims, and Jordon explains why AI revenue cycle tools ease the admin load but leave the underlying math untouched. The second half is the playbook. Jordon walks through how Wood River Dental in Idaho grew past a thousand membership patients, generating close to fifty thousand dollars a month in recurring revenue, then used that safety net to drop Delta Dental in tiers. He describes what he saw sitting in the waiting rooms of practices that got implementation right, from signage along the patient journey to team pins, the chairside mention, and a simple savings sheet at checkout. Adrian and Jordon also cover team incentives, patient retention, and why recurring revenue makes a practice worth more when it sells. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. Should a dental practice drop its PPO contracts, and what needs to be in place first? Build the recurring revenue safety net first. Grow a patient membership plan, then drop contracts in tiers, reevaluating every hundred to two hundred new members. Before dropping anything you need a real marketing plan, team training on how to talk about the change, and a membership system that actually scales. 2. Do AI revenue cycle management tools fix dental practice profitability? They help, but only with admin. AI can shorten the forty five minute hold call and clean up claims so they get accepted the first time. It does not raise reimbursement rates or lower overhead. Shrinking margins are a business model problem, and tooling alone will not solve that. 3. How do dental practices actually get patients to sign up for a membership plan? Run it in the office, not on the website. Put signage along the patient journey, give the team pins that start the conversation, have the doctor and hygienist mention it chairside, and hand every patient a simple savings example at checkout. Flag uninsured patients in the daily huddle. 4. What is an umbrella PPO policy in dentistry, and why does it lower reimbursement? An umbrella policy means one signed contract can enroll a practice in twenty or thirty networks at once. Claims then get processed through whichever agreement pays least. Most dentists never catch it because they do not read the contract closely. Read every agreement, and audit the networks you are already in. 5. How much recurring revenue can a dental membership plan generate, and how long does it take? A practice with fifteen hundred to three thousand patients signs up twenty to forty members a month, landing near three hundred fifty to four hundred eighty members after churn in year one, roughly fifteen to twenty two thousand dollars monthly. At maturity, about a thousand members produces forty to fifty thousand a month. ABOUTJordon Comstock is the founder and CEO of BoomCloud, a software platform that helps dental practices, DSOs, and other healthcare businesses build, manage, and scale patient membership programs. He grew up in dentistry. His grandfather started Salt Lake Dental Lab, his father ran it, and Jordon managed it before moving into consulting practices on membership plans around 2013. He launched the first version of the BoomCloud software in 2016 and works with practices across the country on recurring revenue models. He is based in Utah. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Jordon Comstock Website: https://boomcloudapps.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordoncomstock/ Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #DentalMembershipPlans #BoomCloud #FeeForServiceDentistry #DentalPracticeGrowth #RecurringRevenue #DSO

  8. Aug 7

    56 : Revenue Cycle Management, Real AI, and the Companies That Are Faking It

    Dentists are paying every month for tools sold as AI, and some of those tools are not AI at all. Amber Day explains how to tell the difference before you sign anything. WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ABOUTAmber Day has worked every side of dental technology. She started as a dental hygienist, spent five to six years at Solutionreach running a territory, then her own sales team, and eventually key opinion leader and trade show strategy, then moved into consulting for DSOs. Today she leads sales and business development at VoiceCare AI, a multimodal revenue cycle management platform backed in part by Mayo Clinic, and she runs her own practice transitions consulting company. Adrian opens with a blunt claim: a lot of dental software marketed as AI is really robotic process automation, or in some cases people typing at keyboards overseas. Amber does not dodge it. She walks through the difference between RPA, which follows a fixed chain and breaks when any single link breaks, and true AI built on retrieval augmented generation, which ingests what it has not seen before and adjusts. Her advice to practices is simple. Ask which one you are actually buying. From there the conversation moves into revenue cycle, where the real money is hiding. Amber describes practices writing off thousands of dollars in claims every month for no reason other than nobody has time to chase them. She explains why payers benefit from that, why a multimodal agent needs phone calls, portals, and clearinghouse APIs to work at all, and why a human still sits in the loop even at a 99.7 percent accuracy rate. Adrian and Amber also get into tech stack bloat, the coming consolidation wave, and why practice management systems are going to swallow a lot of point solutions faster than most vendors want to admit. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE1. How can a dental practice tell if a software tool is really powered by AI or just automation? Ask whether the tool uses RPA or true AI. Robotic process automation follows a fixed chain, so one broken link stops everything and someone has to repair it by hand. Real AI uses retrieval augmented generation, learns from what it has not seen before, and adjusts on its own. 2. What should a dentist ask an AI vendor before signing a contract? Ask when the system last failed and how the company fixed it. A polished demo tells you nothing about behavior under pressure. Then press on integration. Many vendors claim read and write access to the practice management system, so ask exactly where the data writes back and where it pulls from. 3. Should a dental group buy a separate tool for insurance verification, claims, and denials? No. Buying a point solution for each task bloats the tech stack and leaves the workflow broken across three vendors. Map the full revenue cycle first, count the manual touch points, then look for one partner that works across the whole workflow instead of reacting to today's bottleneck. 4. Will practice management systems eventually absorb standalone dental AI tools? Yes, and sooner than most people expect. PMS companies own the clinical notes and the patient data, which makes them the single source of truth. Several already have partners in beta building receptionist and note taking features. Deeply technical work like claims and payer rules will stay independent longer. 5. How much revenue does the average dental practice lose to unworked insurance claims? Thousands of dollars every month get written off because nobody has time to chase them. Teams work the high value claims and let the rest expire. VoiceCare AI now reports a 99.7 percent accuracy rate on payer data, up from 93 percent, which is what makes catching those smaller claims realistic. ABOUTAmber Day is a dental hygienist turned dental technology executive whose career sits at the intersection of dental technology, go to market strategy, and revenue cycle operations. She spent five to six years at Solutionreach, moving from territory management to running her own sales team and then to key opinion leader management and trade show strategy, before consulting for DSOs. Today she heads up sales and business development at VoiceCare AI, a multimodal revenue cycle management platform backed in part by Mayo Clinic, and she runs her own practice transitions consulting company helping private practices tighten up their financial operations ahead of an exit. CONTACT INFORMATIONGuest: Amber Day Website: https://voicecare.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberdayrdh/ Instagram: @AmberDayFit Host: Adrian Lefler Website: https://mysocialpractice.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianlefler/ Book Adrian to speak: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-expert/ Dental Marketing Services: https://mysocialpractice.com/dental-marketing-services/ 👍 Subscribe for more on dental marketing, AI in dentistry, and practice growth. #DentalMarketing #DentalAI #RevenueCycleManagement #DSO #DentalTechnology #AIinDentistry #InsuranceVerification

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