C.O.B. Tuesday

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C.O.B. Tuesday is a weekly one-hour talk show that serves as a knowledge pipeline for the energy industry and the energy curious. We host honest, timely, conversations with people we believe can improve the discussion, can provide new perspectives, can share unique insights into key energy issues, and can discuss inventive, pragmatic solutions for a stronger energy future. Produced by Veriten. 

  1. 1d ago

    "Permitting Can Really Strangle Our Country If We Don’t Fix It" – U.S. Senator Alan Armstrong

    We are excited to share this Special Edition featuring Senator Alan Armstrong (R-OK). Senator Armstrong, alongside Senators Rick Scott (R-FL), Cynthia Lummis (R-WY), Katie Britt (R-AL), and James Lankford (R-OK), recently introduced the American Energy and Mineral Infrastructure Act. The legislation seeks to modernize the federal permitting process for energy and mineral infrastructure projects while preserving strong environmental protections. We were delighted to host Senator Armstrong to discuss his experience in Washington, the motivation behind the legislation, and what it could mean for the future of U.S. infrastructure development.   In our conversation, Senator Armstrong discusses his transition from leading Williams Companies to serving in the U.S. Senate and explains why permitting reform has become one of the country's most pressing economic and national security priorities. He walks us through the American Energy and Mineral Infrastructure Act, outlining how the legislation seeks to streamline federal permitting, reduce unnecessary litigation, provide greater regulatory certainty for project developers, and create a more predictable process for building critical infrastructure. We explore how permitting delays increase costs for consumers, discourage private investment, and threaten America's economic and technological competitiveness as electricity demand accelerates alongside AI and data center growth. Longer term, it’s not an overstatement to say failing to address these issues will also threaten the country’s national security.   Senator Armstrong shares his perspective on building bipartisan support for permitting reform, maintaining an energy source-neutral approach, and ensuring that pipelines, transmission lines, nuclear facilities, and other critical infrastructure can be built in a more timely and predictable manner. We touch on the growing importance of grid reliability, the intersection of permitting reform and national security, and why he believes the current Congress has a unique opportunity to address these long-standing challenges before rising power demand and infrastructure constraints become even more acute. The discussion was especially timely as the push is on to get permitting reform done during this Congress. The Senator emphasized, “Who in the world would oppose this? We’re going to be asking that question exactly on the floor tomorrow as we’re starting to put pressure on moving this bill forward.” We greatly appreciate Senator Armstrong for joining us and for his leadership on this important issue.   To start the show, Mike Bradley highlighted key market developments, noting that favorable inflation data has supported markets this week. Cooler-than-expected CPI and PPI reports released on Tuesday and Wednesday, respectively, pushed the 10-year Treasury yield down to roughly 4.55% and reduced near-term pressure on the Federal Reserve to increase interest rates. In commodities, Brent and WTI crude oil prices appeared to have temporarily stabilized at approximately $85/bbl and $80/bbl, respectively, despite President Trump’s escalation of military strikes against Iran. On the equity front, the S&P 500 was up about 0.25% on the day, supported by the favorable PPI report. Telecom was the top-performing sector, gaining roughly 2.5% to 3.0%, led by Google, following reports that Berkshire Hathaway had taken a large position in the stock. He concluded by highlighting the significant value creation achieved during Alan Armstrong’s tenure as CEO of Williams Companies. Veriten Senior Advisor Bill Flores also joined the discussion, offering valuable perspective on the legislative process and the dynamics in Washington.

    "Permitting Can Really Strangle Our Country If We Don’t Fix It" – U.S. Senator Alan Armstrong
  2. 2d ago

    "Commercialization Is Really Around the Corner" – Dr. Michl Binderbauer, TAE Technologies

    This week we had the exciting opportunity to travel to Lake Forest, California, to tour TAE Technologies’ facilities and spend time with the company’s CEO, Dr. Michl Binderbauer. Founded in 1998, TAE has spent nearly three decades pursuing one of the energy industry’s most ambitious goals: commercializing a safe, sustainable, and economically viable source of fusion energy. With renewed momentum in the fusion industry, we thought it was the perfect time to visit TAE and better understand why many believe fusion’s moment may finally be approaching. Our visit also marks the beginning of a California COBT series, where over the coming weeks, we'll highlight some of the state's innovative companies, technologies, and leaders. We will also touch on a challenge or two the state is facing. Stay tuned!   In our discussion, Michl explains why he believes fusion has reached a true inflection point after nearly three decades of scientific and engineering progress. He outlines why TAE was founded with the “end in mind,” deliberately choosing the more technically challenging hydrogen-boron fuel cycle because it offered the best path to a commercially viable power plant rather than simply proving the science. We explore how advances in AI, machine learning, advanced computing, and materials science have accelerated development, why TAE believes commercial fusion is now measured in years rather than decades, and how the company is preparing to build its first demonstration power plant.   We discuss TAE’s innovative approach to commercializing technologies developed along the way, including its advanced power management platform that is finding applications in AI data centers, industrial facilities, and grid modernization. Michl shares his vision for fusion’s role in delivering abundant, reliable energy to meet the world’s rapidly growing electricity demand, the importance of recent U.S. regulatory reforms, the race with China to commercialize fusion, workforce and supply chain challenges, and why he believes fusion has become not only an energy opportunity, but also an economic and national security imperative. We look at what the next five years could look like for TAE, why hyperscalers, industrial customers, and the Department of War may become some of fusion’s earliest adopters before widespread utility deployment, the company’s long-term vision for a more distributed electric grid, and much more. It was a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion, and we greatly appreciate Michl for sharing his time and insights.   To start the show, Mike Bradley noted that markets have been volatile this week. He highlighted that the cooler-than-expected CPI report sparked a rally in Treasuries, driving the 10-year yield down from roughly 4.65% to 4.55%, and said Wednesday's PPI report will be another important data point for the Fed. U.S. equities also moved higher, with the S&P 500 gaining approximately 0.5% on the back of the CPI report and strong bank earnings, while the Dow lagged following a sharp selloff in IBM shares after disappointing quarterly results.   In commodities, Brent and WTI crude prices climbed roughly $8-$9/bbl this week following the collapse of the Iran-U.S. ceasefire and renewed disruptions through the Strait of Hormuz. He emphasized that today's challenge is less a global crude supply issue than a global refining problem, citing tight refined product inventories and the loss of roughly 1.5 million bpd of Russian refining capacity following Ukrainian attacks. He also highlighted that European natural gas prices have surged from approximately $16/MMBtu to $19/MMBtu as storage levels remain 20%-25% below seasonal norms and buyers compete for LNG cargoes.   Mike noted that Energy is the best-performing S&P 500 sector this week, up approximately 3%, as investors turn their attention to second-quarter oilfield services earnings. He also highlighted the newly announced strategic alliance between SLB and Liberty Energy focused on data center infrastructure and power solutions, noting that similar partnerships are likely to become increasingly common across the energy sector.

    "Commercialization Is Really Around the Corner" – Dr. Michl Binderbauer, TAE Technologies
  3. Jul 10

    "We Win on Innovation Ten Out Of Ten Times" – Dr. Rian Bahran, U.S. DOE Office of Nuclear Energy

    With the recent wave of milestones across the U.S. nuclear sector, we were eager to better understand what these achievements mean for the future of advanced reactors. Over the past month, Antares, Valar Atomics, Deployable Energy, and Aalo Atomics each achieved criticality, an important technical milestone, through the Department of Energy's Reactor Pilot Program (RPP) and Nuclear Energy Launch Pad. To help us put these milestones into context, we were delighted to host Dr. Rian Bahran, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Nuclear Reactors in the U.S. Department of Energy’s Office of Nuclear Energy. Rian oversees the Department's portfolio for advanced reactor research, demonstration, and deployment, and is a career member of the Senior Executive Service who has served under both the Biden and Trump Administrations. We were thrilled to visit with Rian to "demystify" the latest developments in U.S. nuclear and discuss what still needs to happen before these technologies reach commercial scale.   In our conversation, Rian explains why the four recent criticality milestones represent an important step forward for advanced nuclear. While criticality is not the finish line, he shares how these demonstrations help validate a new commercialization pathway by allowing companies to build and test nuclear hardware in months rather than years. He describes how the Department of Energy’s Reactor Pilot and Launch Pad initiatives are creating greater regulatory certainty, helping companies unlock private capital, and accelerating progress toward commercial deployment.   We discuss the DOE’s broader strategy for expanding U.S. nuclear capacity, from gigawatt-scale reactors and small modular reactors to microreactors. Rian explains why the DOE is pursuing multiple technologies simultaneously, allowing the market to determine the winning designs while supporting innovation across the reactor, fuel cycle, and supply chain ecosystems. He outlines how reactor uprates, restarts, and investments across the nuclear fuel cycle can provide near-term additions to U.S. generating capacity while advanced reactors continue progressing toward commercialization.   We explore the role advanced nuclear could play in powering AI infrastructure, military installations, industrial facilities, and future export markets. Rian discusses how the DOE is leveraging AI to accelerate reactor design, licensing, manufacturing, and deployment, and why workforce development has become one of the industry’s greatest long-term challenges. He emphasizes that the U.S. has reached a true inflection point for nuclear energy, driven by unprecedented alignment across government, industry, private capital, and growing electricity demand. It was a wide-ranging and fascinating discussion, and we sincerely appreciate Rian taking the time to join us during such a busy time.   Mike Bradley kicked us off by noting that three key themes have driven markets so far this quarter. First, Treasury yields have continued to move higher, with the 10-year Treasury yield rising to approximately 4.55% and the 30-year Treasury yield climbing above 5%. Second, renewed geopolitical uncertainty following the end of the Iranian ceasefire helped lift WTI crude oil prices by roughly $4/bbl this week to approximately $72/bbl. Third, equity markets have experienced notable sector rotation, with investors shifting capital out of semiconductor stocks and back into the Magnificent 7. Mike concluded by highlighting the sharp reversal in sentiment toward small modular reactor (SMR) companies. While SMR stocks were among the market's strongest performers entering 2026 amid growing enthusiasm for nuclear power, the group is now down roughly 30% on average year-to-date. Nick Morriss, Brett Rampal, and Veriten Senior Advisor Bill Flores also joined the discussion, contributing their perspectives and questions on nuclear energy and power.

    "We Win on Innovation Ten Out Of Ten Times" – Dr. Rian Bahran, U.S. DOE Office of Nuclear Energy
  4. Jul 8

    "Let The Water Flow Digitally As Well As Physically" – Adrianne Lopez, Dr. Scott Tinker, and Derek Tinker

    Today we were joined by three outstanding guests to discuss one of the biggest long-term opportunities and challenges facing the Permian Basin: produced water. We were thrilled to welcome Adrianne Lopez, Research and Development Manager at Texas Pacific Water Resources, along with Dr. Scott Tinker, Chairman of Switch Energy Alliance and Director Emeritus of the Bureau of Economic Geology at the University of Texas, and Derek Tinker, Founder of Agnostic Data Group. We appreciated hearing each of their perspectives on why produced water has become one of the defining issues for the future of the Permian, the technologies making large-scale desalination increasingly feasible, and how produced water could become a valuable resource for agriculture, power generation, AI infrastructure, and beyond.   In our conversation, Scott explains the scale of the challenge, noting that the Permian now produces roughly 20 million barrels of water every day, with water-to-oil ratios continuing to increase across much of the basin. He outlines why disposing of that water through underground injection is becoming more difficult and more expensive, and argues that beneficial reuse represents one of the industry’s largest untapped opportunities. Adrianne walks us through the science behind produced water, explaining why it is significantly more difficult to treat than seawater. She details Texas Pacific’s work developing freeze desalination technology, the company’s new 10,000-barrel-per-day demonstration facility, and why reaching commercial scale, alongside continued regulatory progress, will be critical to improving the economics of produced water desalination.   We examine where this water could ultimately be used, from AI data centers and power generation to cotton production and land rehabilitation, and why collaboration between industry, regulators, and technology providers will be essential. We discuss the valuable minerals contained within produced water, including lithium, the role of AI and real-time monitoring in building public trust, and why transparent, independently verified water quality data are as essential as the treatment technology itself.   Scott argues that the industry already has many of the technologies needed to move forward. The remaining challenge, he suggests, is creating the economic incentives and regulatory certainty needed to scale solutions that can reduce disposal volumes while creating entirely new sources of water for Texas. As disposal costs continue to rise and desalination costs decline with scale, he believes operators have an opportunity to address a growing operational challenge while reinforcing the industry's long-term position in the Permian.   Mike Bradley opened the discussion by noting that market rotation has been the defining theme in recent trading. While Treasury yields moved modestly higher this week, investors are largely looking ahead to next week's CPI and PPI reports for potential market-moving data. Within equities, semiconductor stocks have pulled back sharply after leading the market for much of the year, while the Mag 7 have recently rebounded. In energy, the sector moved higher alongside a roughly $2/bbl increase in WTI crude to ~$70/bbl following renewed attacks on vessels transiting the Strait of Hormuz. Mike noted that oil markets appear to be pricing in a quick return to normal in the region, which may prove optimistic. He also highlighted that second-quarter earnings season begins in earnest during the week of July 20, with several oilfield services companies reporting results. U.S. natural gas prices strengthened on hotter summer weather, while European gas prices rose as below-normal inventories and geopolitical tensions supported the market. Mike concluded by highlighting the IEA's 3Q26 Gas Market Report, which projects global natural gas demand will decline 0.5% in 2026. Robby Kester also joined and added his technology perspective and questions throughout the conversation.   We will be staying close to this topic and hope you find the conversation as useful and informative as we did. Our best to you all!

    "Let The Water Flow Digitally As Well As Physically" – Adrianne Lopez, Dr. Scott Tinker, and Derek Tinker
  5. Jul 1

    "There’s Ubiquitous Levels of Data Out There" – Jeremy Fraenkel and Brennan Demro, Fundamental

    Today we were thrilled to welcome Jeremy Fraenkel, CEO, and Brennan Demro, Chief Commercial Officer, of Fundamental. We had the opportunity to spend the day with Jeremy and Brennan in Houston visiting with a number of energy companies to discuss how Fundamental's AI technology can be applied across the industry. Fundamental is developing a new category of AI that helps enterprises turn structured data into predictive intelligence, enabling better forecasting, decision-making, and operational performance.   In our conversation, we discuss a critical but often underappreciated area of AI: structured and tabular data. Jeremy explains that while large language models have transformed how people work with text, code, images, and video, the vast majority of enterprise data still lives in structured formats, from spreadsheets and databases to sensor data and transaction logs. Fundamental has built Nexus, a foundation model trained on billions of tables. Jeremy and Brennan describe how Fundamental’s model differs from traditional LLMs, particularly around determinism, security, and enterprise deployment. While LLMs can produce different outputs with small changes in wording, Fundamental is designed to deliver consistent, auditable predictions for critical business decisions. We discuss how Fundamental complements large language models within agentic AI workflows, serving as the predictive engine for enterprise data while LLMs handle unstructured information. Rather than replacing LLMs, Jeremy argues that enterprise AI requires both capabilities: LLMs for language and reasoning, and purpose-built models for structured data and prediction.   Brennan highlights the company’s ability to deploy within a customer’s own environment, helping address major enterprise concerns around data security and control. We explore how their technology can be applied across energy, including predictive maintenance, asset optimization, demand forecasting, inventory and working capital management, and back-office efficiency. Brennan emphasizes that many energy companies are sitting on decades of rich but underutilized data, and how Fundamental’s approach can help unlock insights from those data sets while augmenting existing data science workflows rather than replacing them. We also touch on AI adoption, proof-of-concept challenges, governance, reliability, and the importance of pairing AI tools with measurable business ROI.   Mike Bradley opened the discussion by noting that financial markets have been relatively subdued over the past five trading days. He reviewed year-to-date performance across several key asset classes, including fixed income markets, broad equity indices, energy equities, electric-centric equities, and oil and natural gas commodities. He highlighted several significant market-moving events that have influenced performance across bonds, equities, and commodity markets this year, providing context behind recent market trends and investor sentiment. Robby Kester and Veriten Senior Advisor Deborah Byers also joined and added their technology perspectives and questions throughout the conversation.   We greatly enjoyed hosting Jeremy and Brennan in our offices and hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did. To our Canadian friends, Happy Canada Day! And to everyone celebrating America's 250th Independence Day this week, we wish you a wonderful Fourth of July!

    "There’s Ubiquitous Levels of Data Out There" – Jeremy Fraenkel and Brennan Demro, Fundamental
  6. Jun 24

    "EV Sales Acceleration Poses Downside Risk to Global Oil Demand" – Daan Struyven, Goldman Sachs

    Today we were thrilled to welcome back Daan Struyven, Co-Head of Global Commodities Research and Managing Director, Head of Oil Research at Goldman Sachs. Daan joined Goldman in 2015 and previously co-led Goldman Sachs' Global Economics team as well as the firm’s Canada Economics research effort. Daan and his team recently wrote a report titled “EV Sales Acceleration Poses Downside Risk to Global Oil Demand.” We were pleased to hear Daan’s perspective on the report, the acceleration in global EV adoption following the Iran/Hormuz supply disruption, the outlook for global oil demand and oil prices, and what investors should be watching across the broader energy landscape.   In our conversation, we explore the key findings from Goldman Sachs’ recent research on EV adoption, including how higher fuel prices and concerns around energy security may have accelerated EV sales across several major global markets following the Iran/Hormuz supply disruption. We discuss the significant differences in EV penetration rates around the world, the growing influence of Chinese manufacturers, the importance of charging and power infrastructure, and the role government policy continues to play in shaping adoption trends. We examine the outlook for global oil demand, including Goldman’s view that oil demand continues to grow through 2040 despite rising EV adoption, supported by growing energy consumption and the limited availability of substitutes for petrochemical feedstocks and jet fuel.   We discuss the recovery of Middle East oil production and exports following the conflict, OPEC supply dynamics, strategic petroleum reserves and stockpiling activity, and why oil prices did not rise as much as many expected during the Iran war disruption. We touch on investor sentiment toward energy markets, China’s role as both a major EV market and a stabilizing force in global oil demand through stockpiling behavior, and tightening power markets driven by rising electricity demand from AI and data centers. We also discuss the interplay between future oil prices, power prices, and EV adoption. Finally, we cover advancements in battery technology, the long-term implications for both the energy transition and global commodity markets, and more. We greatly appreciate Daan for sharing his time and perspectives.   To start the show, Mike Bradley noted that market volatility is becoming more prevalent across asset classes. From a fixed income perspective, the 10-year Treasury yield is holding steady at approximately 4.5%, with traders closely focused on this week’s PCE Index as a key inflation indicator, particularly in light of the Federal Reserve’s more hawkish tone following last week’s FOMC meeting. In equities, he emphasized the increasing volatility observed in recent trading sessions, especially within Big Tech and the Nasdaq, with semiconductor and chip stocks coming under notable pressure and with several declining by more than 10%. He suggested that market leadership may be shifting, as the Nasdaq lags while the Dow Jones Industrial Average demonstrates relative resilience. Turning to commodities, WTI crude has fallen to around $73/bbl, marking its lowest level since the first week of the Iran conflict. WTI has broken below its 200-day moving average, indicating that oil appears “broken” from a technical trading perspective. He also highlighted a rapid shift in market sentiment, moving from concerns about tightening global inventories to fears that OPEC supply could increase sooner and more significantly than expected. In energy equities, he observed that the sector has declined modestly over recent trading days, with Oil Services bearing the brunt of the losses. Electric utilities have outperformed, serving as a temporary safe haven for investors. He ended by pointing out two notable headlines: first, a partnership between Chevron and Microsoft to develop a co-located power facility in West Texas that will supply electricity to a Microsoft-operated data center under a 20-year PPA; and second, the Department of Energy’s announcement of $17.5 billion in financing to help incentivize/jump start utilities to order equipment for large-scale nuclear reactors. Ellen Wilkirson made her COBT debut and added her questions and perspective to the discussion as well.

    "EV Sales Acceleration Poses Downside Risk to Global Oil Demand" – Daan Struyven, Goldman Sachs
  7. Jun 17

    "California Means to America What America Means to the World" – Steve Hilton, Candidate for Governor of California

    Today we were pleased to be joined by Steve Hilton, Republican candidate for Governor of California, for a wide-ranging discussion on California’s economic competitiveness, energy policy, affordability challenges, and the future of opportunity in the state.   In our conversation, Steve shared his perspective on the policies and reforms he believes are necessary to address California’s rising cost of living, high energy prices, housing affordability concerns, and broader economic challenges. He discussed his campaign proposals to reduce gasoline and electricity costs, reform the state’s tax structure, streamline government, and expand housing affordability. Steve outlined his views on California’s climate, energy, and regulatory policies, arguing for a more pragmatic approach focused on affordability, domestic energy production, economic growth, and reducing bureaucratic complexity.   Throughout the discussion, Steve emphasized that California’s long-standing strengths, including its innovation ecosystem, entrepreneurial culture, natural resources, and deep talent base, position the state for renewed growth and competitiveness. We explore the role energy policy plays in economic development, affordability, and business investment, along with the broader challenges facing one of the nation’s most influential economies. We appreciate Steve for sharing his time and look forward to staying in touch as the campaign continues.   Mike Bradley opened by noting that a peace agreement to end the 15-week war with Iran appears within reach, with a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) expected to be signed Friday that could lead to a full reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. While an MOU would represent an important milestone, the greater challenge will be ensuring both sides uphold their commitments. In oil markets, the prospect of a deal drove WTI down ~$8/bbl to ~$77/bbl, its lowest closing level since the first week of the conflict. Focus is now shifting to the post-war landscape, with oil strategists closely watching how quickly tanker traffic normalizes through the Strait of Hormuz and the pace at which OPEC restores supply. While traders appear increasingly bearish in the near term, Mike emphasized a more constructive intermediate-term outlook.   From an energy equity standpoint, the sharp decline in oil prices has weighed on the sector, with energy equities pulling back ~4% this week, making it the worst-performing sector in the S&P 500. The energy sector has effectively round-tripped since the start of the war (down ~2%). Despite this, the forward oil curve remains supportive, with the 12-month WTI strip at ~$73/bbl (~$10/bbl higher than pre-war levels), underscoring a more constructive medium-term outlook. Energy’s weighting in the S&P 500 has declined from ~3.5% (pre-war) to ~3.0%, even though recent events have reinforced the critical role of energy.    From a U.S. bond market standpoint, the 10-year bond yield (~4.45%) has drifted modestly lower this week. Consensus expects the Fed to leave interest rates unchanged at Wednesday’s FOMC meeting, with attention focused on forward interest rate guidance and Chairman Warsh’s tone and policy path going forward. From a broader equity market standpoint, the S&P 500 has gained ~1.0% this week, bringing it to within 1% of its all-time high. Several market leaders (Big Tech & Semis) pulled back on Tuesday and could signal an early crack in market leadership. He concluded by highlighting investor enthusiasm surrounding the recent SpaceX IPO (+20% on Day 1 and +45% since its debut), noting that the company is now the fifth-largest publicly traded company globally.

    "California Means to America What America Means to the World" – Steve Hilton, Candidate for Governor of California
  8. Jun 10

    "We’ll Try to Become the First AI-Native Oil and Gas Company" – Karl Hersvik, Aker BP

    Today we were delighted to host Karl Hersvik, CEO of Aker BP, in our offices in Houston. Karl has served as CEO since 2014 and has overseen a period of significant growth and transformation at Aker BP. We were thrilled to hear Karl’s insights on operational excellence, artificial intelligence, data architecture, and the future of oil and gas. As you’ll hear, Aker BP has built a differentiated operating model centered on productivity, long-term alliance partnerships, and technology deployment.   In our conversation, Karl shares how Aker BP has achieved industry-leading operational performance through a relentless focus on continuous improvement, standardized workflows, and deep collaboration with key service providers. He explains why the company believes data should be treated as a strategic asset and how years of investment in data infrastructure have positioned Aker BP to become what he calls the industry's first "AI-native" oil and gas company.   We discuss how AI and agentic workflows are already accelerating engineering, operations, and exploration workflows across the company, enabling faster decision-making, improved productivity, and more efficient capital deployment. Karl introduces the concept of “vibe engineering,” the idea that engineering expertise can be codified into AI agents that perform work in parallel, allowing humans to focus more on training, oversight, and optimization. He argues that this shift has the potential to dramatically compress development timelines and fundamentally reshape how oil and gas projects are executed.   Karl provides a fascinating perspective on the future of the energy industry, arguing that AI will create a new generation of winners and losers, while increasing the importance of focus, culture, and organizational adaptability. He also shares his views on energy security, the evolving role of Norwegian oil and gas in Europe, and why resilience, not prediction, will be the defining competitive advantage in an increasingly volatile world. We greatly enjoyed the conversation.   Mike Bradley started the show by noting that the Iran war has entered its fifteenth week, with markets still largely trading around developments tied to the conflict. He emphasized that this week will be different, as both institutional and retail equity investors shift their attention to the upcoming SpaceX IPO—pricing Thursday. On the oil front, WTI is currently trading at ~$89/bbl, down ~$2 from last week’s close. He credited the Trump Administration with effectively maintaining a market narrative that a broader Iran resolution is imminent, which has helped keep WTI range-bound between $85 and $105/bbl. However, he cautioned that this narrative may begin to lose traction as markets head into the peak summer demand season. He also noted a gradual shift in oil strategist discussions toward the post-war landscape, particularly around how quickly shut-in production could return to pre-conflict levels. Turning to equities, he pointed out that the S&P 500 is modestly higher this week following a ~1.5% pullback last week, which ended a nine-week winning streak. He noted early signs of strain in the AI trade, as several semiconductor stocks experienced sharp corrections, prompting a rotation into more defensive sectors. He ended by highlighting that Equinor ASA will host its Capital Markets Day next week, marking the 25th anniversary of its listing on both the Oslo and New York Stock Exchanges.   Arjun Murti expanded on the Strait of Hormuz discussion by emphasizing that while no one knows exactly how the situation will unfold, current market stability is being supported by inventory draws, SPR releases, and lower Chinese imports, none of which are sustainable indefinitely. He cautioned that a prolonged disruption would ultimately risk a global recession by forcing significant demand destruction, reinforcing the need for a peaceful resolution and a rapid return of shut-in production. More broadly, he reiterated his "Geopolitical Super Vol" thesis, arguing that companies should stop planning around a single oil price outlook and instead prepare for a wide range of outcomes, from deep downturns to periods of $100+ oil. In his view, the winners will be businesses that can remain profitable through volatility, strengthen their balance sheets during periods of strong cash flow, and capitalize on opportunities when competitors are reluctant to invest.

    "We’ll Try to Become the First AI-Native Oil and Gas Company" – Karl Hersvik, Aker BP
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C.O.B. Tuesday is a weekly one-hour talk show that serves as a knowledge pipeline for the energy industry and the energy curious. We host honest, timely, conversations with people we believe can improve the discussion, can provide new perspectives, can share unique insights into key energy issues, and can discuss inventive, pragmatic solutions for a stronger energy future. Produced by Veriten. 

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