Chaos and Creativity

Lou Lesko
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  • Visual Arts
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Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists. Chaos and Creativity is produced by Claire Duncan with music by Kieran Kerwin.

  1. Aug 27

    Remembering the Art of Gathering

    If you look at map of Los Angeles, you’ll see where I used to live on Kittyhawk Avenue is in close proximity the airport. There was a hide-a-key near the back door. If you knew me, or knew someone who knew me, you were welcome to stay— on the couch if I was in town, or in the bedroom if I was out of town. If you stayed more than two nights, compensation was a bottle of wine or bourbon. That included epic breakfasts if I didn’t have an early call time on any given morning. Another quality of my place was the lack of street cleaning restrictions. Many of my friends would plan their departure and arrival times around my schedule so they could park their car in front of my place (free) and have a short visit before traveling. I was always happy to do an airport run which took no more than fifteen minutes round trip. With all people in and out, Kittyhawk, or Lou’s LAX Lounge as it was often affectionately called, morphed into a spontaneous gathering hub. I’d throw together last-minute dinner parties at long tables thrown up in a backyard that abutted La Tijera boulevard. In this episode of Chaos & Creativity Kimi and I remember the Kittyhawk days and how those spontaneous gatherings would lead to creative conversations and ideas that would inspire music, videos, and photos. We also go deep on why AI will never replicate or replace the simple act of getting together. *Note: Kimi sounds a little funny in this episode. We had an audio glitch, but we still wanted to share the content. Thanks for listening.   Mentioned in This Episode: The piece by Thomas Flight about how AI can't make creative decisions. The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker Miranda Lee Richards See the image of Miranda on our episode blog post. Want More Chaos & Creativity? Subscribe! Be cool, be classy, subscribe to email updates. You'll be the first to know when a new episode drops and you'll also receive our quarterly newsletter Memos to the Chaotic & Creative.  Subscribe now. Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Cheramie JohnsonEditor: Alexandra CoveyMusic: Kieran KerwinInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

  2. Aug 13

    The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears

    It’s three o’clock in the afternoon. I’ve just arrived home from another sophomore day at a new high school I started attending only a few weeks earlier. Melding into this new society as an outsider isn’t going poorly, but it has its challenges. On the turntable of my father’s hi-fi is the just released album Moving Pictures from Rush. The opening song Tom Sawyer, a song about individualism, personal autonomy, and refusing to conform to society's expectations becomes my guide and my light during this awkward time of transition. It encourages me to hold onto my integrity and keep things on my terms as I integrate into the new school. I could’ve never guessed this experience would ultimately become a template for my life. I’ve often wondered if Tom Sawyer would have had the same emotional resonance if I listened to it on sonically inferior ear buds. Given my recent experience into the audiophile space, I don’t think so. The word audiophile conjures a sense of elitism. A rarefied club for obsessive people with healthy bank accounts who have arcane knowledge of specialized audio gear. Our next guest thinks that’s the wrong way to look at things. He believes anyone loves music and cares how it sounds is an audiophile. Through his YouTube channel, A British Audiophile, Tarun offers expert advice in a remarkably approachable way. He conveys guidance to people like me who are just starting their audiophile journey but have a limited budget. That said he also appeals to the fanatics who do invest in top end components. The stuff that will make you drool with envy, but also admiration owing to the exquisite engineering driven by a fervor for sonic purity. In a phrase: Tarun’s passion is for maximizing the listener’s experience through a combination of practical advice and knowledgeable guidance about gear. He believes that sometimes listening to music is a spiritual experience, as it was, however unknowingly, to me back in high school. An experience that shaped my life as I’m sure music in someway does for everyone reading this. Mentioned in This Episode A Screaming Life: Into the Superunknown with Soundgarden and BeyondCheck out Tarun's suggestions for the beginning audiophile.Want More Chaos & Creativity? Subscribe! Be cool, be classy, subscribe to email updates. You'll be the first to know when a new episode drops and you'll also receive our quarterly newsletter Memos to the Chaotic & Creative. Subscribe now. Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Cheramie JohnsonEditor: Alexandra CoveyMusic: Kieran KerwinInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

  3. Aug 6

    Fair (and Unfair) Trade: Giving It Away for Free

    In this week’s minisode: Lou offers to write a treatment for a screenplay with a spectacular premise and a really good story. Kimi randomly gets cast in a short film and is relieved when it gets canceled. Drawing on decades of experience as creative professionals, Kimi and Lou share how to ask the right questions when given the “opportunity” to work for free, when trade feels like a valuable exchange, when saying yes is stupid, and how to say no when it needs to be said.  Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Cheramie JohnsonEditor: Alexandra CoveyInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

  4. Jul 23

    The Art of Sound, Part 2: - A World of Sound All in Your Head

    Until I met three time academy award nominee Tom Myers, it never crossed my mind that a blank page to a writer is total silence to a sound designer. That something as subtle as a dog barking in the distance in a movie is as intentional a choice as the more conspicuous murmuring of a populated cafe underneath the dialog of actors in a scene. The deeper Myers and I dug into what he does for a living at Skywalker Sound, the more I realized that sound design and sound mixing are forms of aural magic performed by wizards. Subtlety is art, ethos and praxis in this enchanting world. A world where the latitude between not enough and too much is shockingly narrow and requires good ears, a rich imagination and clever, clever instinct. Links: The Wilhelm Scream The Last Kings of Hollywood Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Cheramie JohnsonEditor: Alexandra CoveyInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

  5. Jul 16

    The Art of Sound, Part 1: It’s Simple – You Just Have to Listen

    Close your eyes. Listen. Which sounds are soothing? Which ones drive you up a tree? Currently, outside my house there’s a mocking bird that’s making me a little crazy. But in the distance the sound of a freight train whistle is eliciting feelings of happiness. No doubt because of an experience I had around trains when I was 12. Bring that train sound two miles closer, it would probably annoy me to no end. Close, far, types of birds, types of trains, all of nature—this is Dr. Stéphane Pigeon’s world. And he’s built a way to bring it to the public on his site MyNoise.net. From his days as an eighteen-year-old sound engineer for Roland synthesizers to recording the subtle voices of the natural world, Dr. Pigeon reflects on the art of crafting complex soundscapes, the beauty of silence, and how his work can invite you into the deeply personal search for the perfect sound. Links: https://mynoise.net/ https://perthirtysix.com/how-the-heck-do-synthesizers-work Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Cheramie JohnsonEditor: Alexandra CoveyInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

  6. Jun 25

    Everything Feels Legit

    Big changes are afoot at Chaos & Creativity, as our long time producer and good friend Claire Duncan moseys down the road of life to her next big thing. We wish her nothing but the best. Lest Kimi and Lou be left alone too long without supervision, we’re excited to announce the arrival of our new producer Cheramie “CJ” Johnson. We’re also thrilled to welcome Alexandra Covey to the podcast editing bay. She’ll be cutting together Chaos & Creativity as well as our sister podcast Mothers of Creativity. In this episode: Everything Feels Legit—everything ends up on the nose as Kimi and Lou utilize an outline to attempt episode cohesion. What results is an extra dose of chaos, with Kimi and Lou covering everything from fellating a lightsaber to Y2K fashion and Facebook regrets to the reflecting pool and beyond. Come for the disastrous segues, stay for the synergy, and listen closely for hints of a 2-part series on the art of sound, coming soon. Mentioned in the episode: The Chaos and Creativity blog The Chaos and Creativity Instagram The reflecting pool debacle The Last Kings of Hollywood by Paul Fischer Silo on Apple TV The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders Documentary, Part 2

  7. Jun 10

    We Don't Have to Be Good at Everything

    In this episode, Lou shares about a do-it-yourself project that flopped, revealing that 1) acoustics is an art form, and 2) he's terrible at acoustics.  So Lou and Kimi talk about which skills are worth learning as creative professionals, and what's important to delegate out. Reflecting on their younger years, they wonder what happened to the time and energy they once had to learn new skills from scratch. Ultimately, they discover that creative maturity brings the very-punk discernment to know what's worth learning and what's best left to the experts. Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Cheramie JohnsonInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

  8. May 7

    Will Waterworth: Cinematic Photography & Storytelling

    This week on Chaos & Creativity, we’re joined by photographer and visual artist William Waterworth. His work feels like scenes from an old film — dark, cinematic, and full of emotion. We talk about why he prefers shooting out in nature instead of a studio, how literature and art inspire his photography, and why he looks for real character over the “perfect” model. We also get into film vs. digital photography, creating timeless black-and-white images, and what it means to make art that actually feels something in a world full of content. If you’re into photography, fashion, creativity, or visual storytelling, this is a really good one. Check out more of Will’s work: Instagram: @willwaterworthWebsite: William Waterworth Connect with the Show Hosts: Kimi Recor and Lou LeskoProducer: Claire DuncanInstagram: @chaosandcreativitypodcast

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4.9
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About

Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists. Chaos and Creativity is produced by Claire Duncan with music by Kieran Kerwin.

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  • Creator
    Lou Lesko
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    36
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Chaos and Creativity
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    Chaos and Creativity

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