Chat & Bother

Eva Wilson

Ready to start all the best conversations? Start right here with us on Chat & Bother. Are you tired of no one responding to your Tweets, Facebook posts, WhatsApp, or group chat messages? Do you start your day by chatting with friends on social media or checking the group chat for a great discussion? Eva does. Every morning she wakes up her husband Don (much too early for his liking) with pop culture, internet drama, nostalgia, and what's new, next, and "nah." Each week on Chat & Bother, Black, Gen X husband and wife conversation starters, Don and Eva discuss a question or topic that people are asking each other online. It could be something that you and your friends are already talking about, or it could be something that you should be talking about. chatandbother.substack.com

  1. Legends, Lyrics & Lunchmeat of the 80s and 90s

    JAN 29 · BONUS

    Legends, Lyrics & Lunchmeat of the 80s and 90s

    If you ever look back at your childhood and think, “Wait… that was normal?” — this episode is for you. In this super-sized Chat and Bother episode, Eva and Don bundle four of your favorite conversations into one hilarious, nostalgic, and slightly unhinged trip down memory lane. From growing up without today’s essentials, to questionable song lyrics, to food that should’ve come with warning labels — this is a full-on Gen X reality check. Because let’s be honest… how did we survive? 0:00 Welcome to the Chat and Bother Podcast 1:52 Carob: The "Fake Chocolate" 3:27 Licorice 4:33 Whoppers and Malted Milk Balls 5:08 Steak-umm: A Controversial Snack 7:02 Health Lies in the 80s: Sizzlean 8:08 Pepperidge Farm Broccoli and Cheese Pastries 11:00 SlimFast Shakes 13:10 Jell-O Pudding Pops 17:43 Stalking in Music1 9:43 Underage Dating in Music 20:18 Destroying Possessions in Music 21:59 Cheating in Music 26:37 Rick James and Inappropriate Themes 32:16 Pressure to Follow Parents' Careers 34:04 Eva Works for Her Mom 37:41 Don Works for His Dad 40:55 The Career of Composer John Williams 42:20 Joseph Williams, Son of John Williams 44:11 Gummy Bears Theme Song 45:25 Nepotism in Hollywood 49:37 Things We Didn't Have Growing Up 51:17 The Rise of Personal Water Bottles 52:40 Hand Sanitizer and Clorox Wipes 54:21 Foaming Soap Theory 55:26 Band-Aids That Match Brown Skin Tones 56:52 Neck Pillows for Travel 57:48 TV After Midnight Episode 8 - We Grew Up Without These Things and Honestly… How Did We Survive? - https://youtu.be/W9VhTxexFXw No Google. No Uber. No water bottles with emotional support handles. We break down the modern “must-haves” we lived without — and how we somehow made it. Episode 7 - What Happens When the People Who Raised You Are Legends? - https://youtu.be/VnMbcEtGjLw The pressure of living up to iconic parents, family expectations, and the weight of being “so-and-so’s kid.” Eva and Don unpack what it’s like when your parents’ reputations walk into the room before you do. Episode 6 - “Backstage, Underage…” Why Didn’t We Question These Lyrics? - https://youtu.be/GDuOQJzuQZI We revisit the songs we screamed at the top of our lungs… and realize how wild, creepy, and problematic some of them really were. Stalking, underage references, and red flags we all ignored. Episode 5 - Sizzlean, Steak-umms, SlimFast & More Fabulous Foods from the 80s - https://youtu.be/GH3ExJO3LWI The microwave meals, diet culture, and mystery meat that raised us. If it came in a box, pouch, or can — we probably ate it. No questions asked. This super episode is funny, nostalgic, honest, and just messy enough to feel like a group chat with your favorite people. It’s the perfect reminder that we didn’t just grow up — we survived. Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram – @chatandbother Facebook Page – @chatandbother YouTube – @chatandbother Twitter – @chatandbother TikTok – @chatandbother Threads – @chatandbother Email List – http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    1h 8m
  2. We Grew Up Without These Things and Honestly… How Did We Survive?

    JAN 26

    We Grew Up Without These Things and Honestly… How Did We Survive?

    In this episode of Chat and Bother, Eva and Don compare the world they grew up in to the one we can’t imagine living without today. From walking around without water bottles to surviving long road trips and flights with no neck pillows, they break down just how much daily life has changed, and how quickly we got spoiled by convenience. 0:00 Previously on Chat and Bother 0:37 Welcome to Chat and Bother 0:59 Things We Didn't Have Growing Up 1:19 Water and Water Bottles 3:59 Hand Sanitizer and Wipes 5:38 Foaming Soap 6:45 Band-Aids that Match Skin Tones 8:12 Neck Pillows 9:05 TV after Midnight 9:54 Taxis and Uber 10:42 Google and Encyclopedias 13:19 Cable and Bootlegging Videos 15:00 The Evolution of TV and Streaming 17:49 Next Time on Chat and Bother The conversation jumps from simple upgrades to full-on lifestyle shifts. They talk about how Google replaced encyclopedias, how Uber made getting around effortless, and how things like reusable water bottles went from nonexistent to absolutely essential. Along the way, they reflect on what it meant to be bored, lost, thirsty, or uncomfortable, and how those experiences shaped a generation that had to “figure it out.” As always, the heart of the show is the question: Did these changes make life better, or did they just make us less patient? Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram - @chatandbother Facebook Page - @chatandbother YouTube - @chatandbother Twitter - @chatandbother TikTok - @chatandbother Threads - @chatandbother Email List - http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    19 min
  3. What happens when the people who raised you are legends?

    JAN 19

    What happens when the people who raised you are legends?

    In this episode of Chat and Bother, Eva and Don discuss the pressure of growing up in the shadow of your parents’ success — whether that success comes from family reputation, career expectations, or worldwide fame. 00:00 Previously on Chat and Bother 00:40 Welcome to Chat and Bother 01:13 Living up to Your Parents’ Legend 02:18 Not Following in Parents’ Footsteps 03:59 Gender Expectations 04:31 Growing up as a Doctor’s Child 07:27 Growing up as a Plumber’s Child 09:31 Pressure on Celebrity Kids 10:07 Will Smith’s Kids 10:52 John Williams’ Resume 12:38 Joseph Williams’ Career (John Williams’ Son) 13:58 Nepotism 14:32 The Gummy Bears Theme Song 18:03 LeBron James’ Son 18:48 Magic Johnson and Steve Harvey’s Kids 19:45 Next Time on Chat and Bother They talk about how early we’re labeled, how often we’re pushed toward paths we didn’t choose, and how hard it can be to figure out who you really are when everyone already has a version of you in their head. From everyday families to celebrity dynasties, the conversation explores: - The weight of inherited expectations - Why some kids feel trapped by their parents’ success - How fame multiplies pressure - The difference between honoring a legacy and losing yourself to it - Why carving your own identity is harder than it looks Eva and Don compare their own upbringings with the public scrutiny faced by the children of famous icons, and unpack what it means to grow up with a name that comes with built-in assumptions. As always, Chat and Bother isn’t here to give you all the answers — it’s here to start the conversation. Were you expected to become someone specific? Did your family’s history shape your future? Did you break away and build your own path? Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram – @chatandbother Facebook Page – @chatandbother YouTube – @chatandbother Twitter – @chatandbother TikTok – @chatandbother Threads – @chatandbother Email List – http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Official Website - ChatandBother.com Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    21 min
  4. "Backstage, underage..." Why didn't we question these lyrics?

    JAN 12

    "Backstage, underage..." Why didn't we question these lyrics?

    In this episode of Chat and Bother, Don and Eva talk about the realization that a lot of the music they grew up loving does not age well when you actually listen to the lyrics as an adult. It is mind-blowing how popular music from the ’80s, ’90s, and early 2000s often normalized behavior that now feels creepy. How did themes like objectification, stalking, cheating, property destruction, and blurred lines around age and consent get treated as catchy, humorous, or romantic? 🎵 Songs and Artists Discussed “You Remind Me of Something” – R. Kelly “Private Eyes” – Daryl Hall & John Oates “Do Me!” – Bell Biv DeVoe “Bust Your Windows” – Jazmine Sullivan “O.P.P.” – Naughty by Nature “It Wasn’t Me” – Shaggy Confessions – Usher “Super Freak” - Rick James Don and Eva also reflect on how parenthood, particularly having a daughter, has reshaped how they hear the music of their youth. They discuss West Coast rap from artists like Too Short, Eazy-E, and The Dogg Pound, noting how difficult it is to find songs from that era that feel appropriate for children today. 00:00 Intro 01:55 Thong Song – Sisquo 02:55 You Remind Me of Something – R. Kelly 03:49 Somebody’s Watching Me – Rockwell (feat. Michael Jackson) 04:02 Private Eyes – Daryl Hall & John Oates 04:15 Love You I Do / And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going – Dreamgirls Original Broadway Cast (Jennifer Holliday) 05:18 Do Me – Bell Biv DeVoe 05:58 Bust Your Windows – Jazmine Sullivan 07:34 O.P.P. – Naughty by Nature 08:15 It Wasn’t Me – Shaggy (feat. RikRok) 08:26 Confessions Part II – Usher 08:52 It Ain’t No Fun (If the Homies Can’t Have None) – Snoop Dogg (feat. Nate Dogg, Warren G & Kurupt) 09:34 The Humpty Dance – Digital Underground 09:42 Do What You Like – Digital Underground 10:02 Dear Mama – 2Pac 10:03 Brenda’s Got a Baby – 2Pac 10:16 Hail Mary – 2Pac 10:49 Jackin’ for Beats – Ice Cube 12:19 Give It to Me Baby – Rick James 12:32 Mary Jane – Rick James 13:33 Super Freak – Rick James 14:52 White Horse - Laid Back Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Website - ChatandBother.com Instagram - @chatandbother Facebook Page - @chatandbother YouTube - @chatandbother Twitter - @chatandbother TikTok - @chatandbother Threads - @chatandbother Email List - http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    17 min
  5. The Most Insane Scandals and Drama of the 80s and 90s

    JAN 10

    The Most Insane Scandals and Drama of the 80s and 90s

    It's a SUPER EPISODE! Missed an episode or just discovering Chat and Bother? This Super Episode brings together Season 3, Episodes 1–4 in one binge-worthy hour, all centered on the biggest scandals and drama of the 1980s and 1990s. Press play, get caught up fast, and relive the headlines, chaos, and cultural moments that defined two unforgettable decades. Watch this episode WITH BONUS CONTENT on YouTube 00:00 - Welcome to episodes 1-4 02:27 - Tylenol murders (1982) 05:20 - Challenger explosion (1986) 13:36 - Jimmy Swaggart scandal (late 1980s) 18:28 - Milli Vanilli lip-sync scandal (late 1980s/early 1990s) 24:01 - Exxon Valdez oil spill (1989) 27:08 - Lorena Bobbitt (1993) 33:32 - Tanya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan (1994) 36:07 - Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas (1991) 39:08 - Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton (1998) 46:12 - Menendez brothers (early 1990s) 47:47 - O. J. Simpson low-speed chase and verdict (1994/1995) 54:57 - Princess Diana's death (1997) Links to the individual episodes S1E1 - What Were the Most Memorable Scandals and News from the 80s? S1E2 - How Much Do You Remember About Milli Vanilli? S1E3 - WHY?! WHY?! Do You Remember These 90s News Stories That Changed Our Lives? S1E4 - In the 80s and 90s we only talked about one scandal at a time. Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram - @chatandbother Facebook Page - @chatandbother YouTube - @chatandbother Twitter - @chatandbother TikTok - @chatandbother Threads - @chatandbother Email List - http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips   This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    1h 1m
  6. Sizzlean, Steakumms, Slimfast and More Fabulous Foods from the 80s

    JAN 5

    Sizzlean, Steakumms, Slimfast and More Fabulous Foods from the 80s

    We wanted everything we saw in food commercials in the 1980s. In this episode of Chat and Bother, we're talking about the foods we begged for, tolerated, or absolutely hated—and the aggressive marketing that convinced us we needed them. From fake butter spreads to questionable "health foods," we break down which products actually lived up to the hype and which ones were straight-up lies sold to our parents during Saturday morning cartoons. This episode pulls no punches as we roast: Carob, the so-called "healthy chocolate" that tasted like brown candle wax Black licorice, a candy nobody asked for that somehow still exists Whoppers, which may or may not have been chocolate-covered packing foam Steak-umms, the after-school DIY cheesesteak staple (ketchup-only households, stand up) Sizzlean, the "lean bacon" that disappeared amid claims it was anything but lean Pepperidge Farm broccoli & cheese pastries, the breakfast reward worth waking up early for Slim Fast, the mysterious shake marketed harder than it ever delivered Jell-O Pudding Pops, the frozen treat siblings fought over in the freezer If you grew up in the 80s, this episode will unlock memories you forgot you had—along with a few foods you're glad no longer exist. Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram - @chatandbother Facebook Page - @chatandbother YouTube - @chatandbother Twitter - @chatandbother TikTok - @chatandbother Threads - @chatandbother Email List - http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips   This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    17 min
  7. In the 80s and 90s we only talked about one scandal at a time.

    12/29/2025

    In the 80s and 90s we only talked about one scandal at a time.

    Remember when the news only came on at 6 and 11—and one scandal could completely dominate the country for months? In this episode, we take a deep (and sometimes hilarious) dive into the most unforgettable scandals of the 1980s and 1990s, back when tabloids ruled, celebrity justice looked very different, and America watched history unfold in real time. We talk about how news spread before 24-hour cable, social media, and citizen journalism—and why scandals from that era hit harder and stayed with us longer. In this episode: - Why the 80s and 90s were a TIME for nonstop scandals - The Menendez Brothers case and the shocking motive behind it - The O.J. Simpson trial, the white Bronco chase, and "If it doesn't fit…" - LAPD corruption, Mark Fuhrman, and why the verdict felt bigger than the case - How Robert Kardashian connects this trial to pop culture history - Celebrities, power, and how fame lets people "get away with it"… sometimes literally - Why consequences for figures like R. Kelly and Diddy only came after video evidence and documentaries - How modern media makes an "unbiased jury" almost impossible - The global shock of Princess Diana's death and the rise of paparazzi culture - When tabloids like the National Enquirer and Globe controlled celebrity narratives - A completely unnecessary—but passionate—debate about Delaware, chicken, chemicals, corporations, and questionable scents This episode is equal parts nostalgia, cultural commentary, and side-eye, with the kind of conversations only people who lived through it can have. Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram - @chatandbother Facebook Page - @chatandbother YouTube - @chatandbother Twitter - @chatandbother TikTok - @chatandbother Threads - @chatandbother Email List - http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips   This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    17 min
  8. WHY?! WHY?! Do You Remember These 90s News Stories That Changed Our Lives?

    12/22/2025

    WHY?! WHY?! Do You Remember These 90s News Stories That Changed Our Lives?

    If you were alive in the 90s, you felt these moments — even if you didn't fully understand them at the time. In this episode of Chat and Bother, we revisit three explosive news stories that stopped classrooms, dominated dinner-table conversations, and reshaped how a generation consumed the news. We break down the Clinton impeachment hearings surrounding Monica Lewinsky, revisit the Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill confirmation hearings that forced uncomfortable conversations into American homes, and relive the shocking Tonya Harding–Nancy Kerrigan incident that turned figure skating into headline news. Why did these stories hit so hard? Why were we watching them in real time as kids and teens? And why do they still spark debate decades later? From media frenzy to lasting cultural impact, we unpack how these moments helped define the 90s — and us. Press play, relive the chaos, and ask yourself the same question we still do: WHYYYYYY?! WHYYYYYY?! Get GIFs from this episode Where to find us: Instagram - @chatandbother Facebook Page - @chatandbother YouTube - @chatandbother Twitter - @chatandbother TikTok - @chatandbother Threads - @chatandbother Email List - http://eepurl.com/igYlfv Podcasting Help: Learn about how we make the Chat & Bother podcast and get podcasting tips   This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit chatandbother.substack.com

    15 min
5
out of 5
15 Ratings

About

Ready to start all the best conversations? Start right here with us on Chat & Bother. Are you tired of no one responding to your Tweets, Facebook posts, WhatsApp, or group chat messages? Do you start your day by chatting with friends on social media or checking the group chat for a great discussion? Eva does. Every morning she wakes up her husband Don (much too early for his liking) with pop culture, internet drama, nostalgia, and what's new, next, and "nah." Each week on Chat & Bother, Black, Gen X husband and wife conversation starters, Don and Eva discuss a question or topic that people are asking each other online. It could be something that you and your friends are already talking about, or it could be something that you should be talking about. chatandbother.substack.com

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