I’m 43 years old. I’m a licensed clinical psychologist. I literally work with people who have ADHD every single day. And I just figured out I have it. Not because I struggled in school (I loved school). Not because I can’t focus (I hyperfocus all the time). But because I constantly feel overwhelmed with my to do list, I’m always trying to do 5 things at the same time, and because I lose friends when I forget to text back for the third time. That’s ADHD in women. And if you’re reading this thinking “wait, that’s me” then you’ll want to pay close attention to this conversation. This week on Checking In, I’m talking with my brilliant friend Dr. Shawn Horn about the surprising connection between success, shame, and ADHD. Shawn is a licensed psychologist who teaches at the University of Washington Medical School, a TEDx speaker, and her book Thrive Socially with Adult ADHD just launched. Here’s Shawn’s story: She was put in special education as a kid. Told she was cognitively delayed. Publicly shamed by a teacher for sucking her thumb in first grade. Didn’t read her first novel until college. She spent her entire childhood being told, and believing, she was “dumb.” And now? She’s teaching psychiatric residents at a medical school. Published two books. Gave a TEDx talk. Built a thriving practice. Not because she “overcame” her ADHD. But because she finally understood it, and got the right tools. What We Cover: Why high-achieving women don’t realize they have ADHD until later in life The devastating connection between ADHD and shame (20,000 corrective statements by age 12) Why your executive functioning is 30% delayed, and what that actually means How your nervous system works differently (polyvagal theory for ADHD brains) Why social situations feel so exhausting and confusing The ADHD-tailored tools that actually work The difference between thinking “I’m broken” and understanding “I’m wired differently” Key Quotes: “I thought I was so dumb. My whole life I thought I was dumb. And it wasn’t until I was shown that I could be intelligent with the right keys, with ADHD-tailored tools, that everything changed.” —Dr. Shawn Horn “By age 12, ADHD kids receive 20,000 more corrective statements than neurotypical kids. No wonder so many of us develop toxic shame.” “We are unicorns in a donkey world. And unicorns are magical—not because they fit in, but because they don’t.” —Dr. Shawn Horn “ADHD is not a disorder of knowing, it’s a disorder of performing. You know what to do. You just struggle to put it into action.” Here’s What Sits With Me: Twenty thousand more corrective statements by age 12. Twenty thousand more “sit still, stop that, focus, pay attention, what’s wrong with you” messages than neurotypical kids get. No wonder so many of us became perfectionists and people-pleasers. We’ve been trying to prove we’re worthy, that we’re okay, that there’s nothing wrong with us. But here’s what Shawn taught us: There’s nothing wrong with you. You’re wired differently. And different isn’t defective. You can be successful, accomplished, someone who loved school and got good grades, and still have ADHD. Your ADHD might look like working three times as hard as everyone else just to look “normal.” Or having seventeen color-coded systems to keep your life together. Or losing friendships because you forgot to text back. Or being exhausted from the constant performance of looking like you have it together. Once you understand your wiring, stop trying to be neurotypical, and start working with your actual brain, everything can change. It’s not too late. You’re not too old to figure this out. And understanding yourself isn’t self-indulgence, it’s actually self-compassion and self-care. Listen to the Full Episode: 🍎 Apple Podcasts → 🎵 Spotify → 📺 YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@DrThereseMascardo 🪴 Substack Audio → https://exploringtherapy.substack.com/podcast About Dr. Shawn Horn: Dr. Shawn Horn is a licensed psychologist, TEDx speaker, and faculty member at the University of Washington Medical School where she supervises psychiatric residents. Her book Thrive Socially with Adult ADHD: Shame-Busting Strategies to Build Better Relationships Using Polyvagal Theory and Neuroscience is available everywhere books are sold and includes a free workbook. Connect with Shawn: 🌐 Website → https://www.drshawnhorn.com 📸 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/drshawnhorn 🎙️ Podcast → Inspired Living 💙 Sponsored by TherapyNotes: This episode is made possible by TherapyNotes, the all-in-one practice management software that helps therapists handle notes, scheduling, billing, and telehealth so they can focus on people, not paperwork. 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