ClearTech Loop: In the Know, On the Move

ClearTech Research / Jo Peterson
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ClearTech Loop is a fast, focused podcast delivering sharp, soundbite-ready insights on what’s next in cybersecurity, cloud, and AI. Hosted by Jo Peterson, Chief Analyst at ClearTech Research, each 10-minute episode explores today’s most pressing tech and risk issues through a business-focused lens.  Whether it’s CISOs rethinking cyber strategy or AI reshaping risk governance, ClearTech Loop brings clarity to a shifting landscape—built for tech leaders who don’t have time for fluff.  We cut through hype. We rethink assumptions. We keep you in the loop.

  1. Air Traffic Control for AI Security with Deputy CISO Aby Rao

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    Air Traffic Control for AI Security with Deputy CISO Aby Rao

    AI has erased the perimeter. Security teams are no longer guarding walls — they’re managing airspace.  In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with Deputy CISO Aby Rao to unpack what AI security really looks like when threats move through models, APIs, agents, and identity flows instead of firewalls and fences.  Aby explains why security teams are at an inflection point:  No code and low code tools now let cyber teams build automation and identity workflows without relying on vendors. AI development is outpacing AI literacy, creating a widening gap between capability and understanding. And CISOs can no longer operate as castle guards — they must become bridges between high-velocity development and the governance functions responsible for responsible AI. If you want to understand how CISOs should adapt to a boundaryless threat landscape — and what “air traffic control” for AI security actually means — this episode gives you the clarity you’re looking for.  👉 Subscribe to ClearTech Loop on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7346174860760416256/  Key Quotes   “We have to break out of this castle guard mindset and think of us as air traffic controllers.” — Aby Rao  “The pace at which AI development is taking place, it has outgrown AI literacy and AI education.” — Aby Rao  “If you’re not actively involving your CISO, you really need to. You’re short-changing yourself.” — Jo Peterson  Three Big Ideas from This Episode  1. AI gives cyber teams new power — and new ownership.  With no code and low code tools, teams can now build custom workflows and agentic processes on their own data. That freedom comes with long-term responsibility.  2. Security by design only works if AI literacy exists first.  You can’t embed privacy, fairness, transparency, or explainability if the team doesn’t understand AI fundamentals.  3. CISOs must become the bridge.  They now sit between fast-moving developers and governance leaders in legal, audit, privacy, fairness, and ethics — translating risk and keeping the entire airspace safe.  Episode Notes / Links for Suzie to Fill Out  🎧 Listen: on player above ▶ Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/7OSuAiLZCgo 📰 Subscribe to the ClearTech Loop Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7346174860760416256/  Resources Mentioned:  NIST AI Risk Management Framework: https://www.nist.gov/itl/ai-risk-management-framework  CSA Trusted AI Course Materials: https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/education “Pack a Room Full of Governors” https://www.linkedin.com/posts/abyrao_pack-a-room-full-of-governors-standing-activity-7401658932416528384-PFxH/ Previous Episode: AI Safety with Dutch Schwartz: https://cleartechresearch.com/bumpers-not-brakes/

    13 min
  2. AI Only Works If Your Foundations Do: A Conversation with Dr. Anton Chuvakin

    19 NOV.

    AI Only Works If Your Foundations Do: A Conversation with Dr. Anton Chuvakin

    AI is not a fix for a broken SOC. It exposes weaknesses you already have. In this ClearTech Loop episode, Jo Peterson talks with Dr. Anton Chuvakin — Senior Security Staff in Google Cloud’s Office of the CISO and one of the most respected voices in SOC modernization — about what “AI readiness” really means and why most teams are nowhere near it.  You’ll hear about:  • Why AI accelerates process debt instead of compensating for it  • The two forms of shadow AI already inside every enterprise  • The five foundations of an AI ready SOC: data quality, ownership, interoperability, probabilistic thinking, and metrics  • Why governance has to move at the speed of experimentation, not quarterly reviews  • How to evaluate AI tools through use cases instead of marketing promises  Anton has spent decades shaping security operations — from coining the term EDR to defining detection and response strategies as a Gartner Distinguished Analyst. Today, he helps global enterprises build the structural maturity required before AI can add any value at all.  Subscribe to the ClearTech Loop Newsletter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7346174860760416256/  Episode Description (Short):  Jo Peterson and Dr. Anton Chuvakin break down what AI readiness really requires and why most SOCs are not prepared for what AI will expose.  Timestamps  00:00 Intro and Anton’s background  01:15 Why AI exposes foundational weaknesses  03:45 Process debt and SOC workflow failures  05:20 Two forms of shadow AI inside enterprises  07:10 Data quality, ownership, and workflows  09:22 Five foundations of an AI-ready SOC  11:18 Why interoperability matters  12:40 Leaders and probabilistic thinking  14:05 Governance at the speed of AI  17:10 How to evaluate AI tools  19:25 Closing thoughts  About the Guest  Dr. Anton Chuvakin is Senior Security Staff in the Office of the CISO at Google Cloud. Previously a Research Vice President and Distinguished Analyst at Gartner, he has authored multiple books on security monitoring and log management and co hosts the Cloud Security Podcast.  Resources  Anton’s YouTube playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX5SvgMpS0s&list=PLkdSRxA6DyHtxH623M1WYuAYGpEXdvEqp  Google Cloud security best practices https://cloud.google.com/security/best-practices  CSA AI Safety Initiative https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/ai-safety-initiative  ClearTech Loop: George Finney on the CSA AI Initiative https://cleartechresearch.com/the-csa-ai-safety-initiative-with-george-finney/

    16 min
  3. AI with Financial Intelligence: Turning Hype Into Measurable Value (with Ajay Patel, GM Apptio/IBM)

    8 NOV.

    AI with Financial Intelligence: Turning Hype Into Measurable Value (with Ajay Patel, GM Apptio/IBM)

    A practical framework for AI ROI: visibility, accountability, and value  Episode description / show notes  Last week, you probably caught my chat with Ajay Patel, GM of Apptio and IBM IT Automation. If you missed it, this episode breaks down how a layer of financial intelligence turns AI from experiments into measurable business value.  We walk through a simple framework that leaders can actually run with. First, visibility across every AI initiative and its real costs, including people, data preparation, governance, and change management. Second, accountability that ties projects to business objectives, not activity. Third, value that tracks both hard returns and soft returns so the story holds up with finance and the board.  Adoption and trust matter just as much. AI programs don’t stall for lack of models. They stall when people can’t trust the data or see the wins. Start with accurate, contextual data and repeatable outcomes. Build confidence with useful insights that remove busywork. Then let automation follow.  Listen in for what CIOs and CFOs need to align on the same page and move faster with less risk.  What you’ll learn  How to inventory AI initiatives and total cost drivers How to link projects to measurable outcomes that matter How to measure hard and soft ROI without hand-waving How to build trust so automation becomes a natural next step Key quotes  “AI starts with the productivity tool. It starts providing me rich insight and making smarter decisions. It starts taking away some of that mundane work, and you kind of walk into building that trust… till you get to a point where the user says, ‘I trust it — can you automate that action for me?’”  “What if you could have a series of financial experts available at your fingertips? That’s what enterprise financial intelligence is all about — building those experts from your own data so every decision gets smarter.”  Links LinkedIn clip of the conversation: [add link] ClearTech Research episode page: [add link] Apptio and IBM IT Automation: https://www.ibm.com/apptio Apptio FinOps Framework: https://www.apptio.com/solutions/finops/ Subscribe to ClearTech Loop: https://form.typeform.com/to/EESYYt4a  About the guest  Ajay Patel is the General Manager of Apptio and IBM IT Automation, leading Apptio, Turbonomic, Instana, and AIOps across hybrid environments. His leadership spans VMware, Oracle, BEA Systems, and Apigee. He focuses on using financial and operational intelligence to optimize technology investments and outcomes.  Chapter markers  00:00 Intro and why financial intelligence matters  00:23 Guest welcome  01:47 From AI hype to ROI  02:53 Financial intelligence vision inside the enterprise  04:58 The framework: visibility, accountability, value  06:39 Adoption, governance, and responsible AI  07:29 Data quality, trust, and building confidence  10:35 Fourteen years of customer data and lessons learned  11:04 Benchmarking, unit economics, and practical guidance  12:43 Closing and conference note

    13 min
  4. Hybrid Integration in the Era of AI: Real Enterprise Use Cases

    6 NOV.

    Hybrid Integration in the Era of AI: Real Enterprise Use Cases

    Enterprises are not trying to modernize in a vacuum. They are running mission-critical workloads on mainframes and ERPs, while also deploying cloud apps, SaaS platforms, and mobile services at scale. Now leaders are expected to layer in AI without disrupting operations.  Hybrid integration is how they do it.  In this ClearTech Loop special edition sponsored by IBM webMethods, Jo Peterson breaks down real-world integration patterns and what IT leaders need to enable AI-ready operations across legacy, cloud, and SaaS environments.  Topics include:  Modernizing legacy systems without disruption Wrapping core systems with APIs for real-time access Connecting cloud platforms and on-prem applications Managing event-driven automation and data unification Treating APIs as digital products with governance and scale Why a hybrid control plane matters for AI outcomes Hybrid integration is not a temporary bridge. It is the operating model for the AI era.  Links & Resources  Learn more about webMethods Hybrid Integration: https://ibm.biz/Bde6n2 Start a free 30-day trial: https://ibm.biz/Bde6nf  Subscribe to the ClearTech Loop newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7346174860760416256/  Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3_2ZTq-jdmM Guest  Jo Peterson  Chief Analyst, ClearTech Research  VP of Cloud and Security Services, Clarify360  Sponsored by  IBM webMethods Hybrid Integration  Short Preview Copy  Hybrid integration is how enterprises modernize without disruption. Jo Peterson explains real-world use cases and why webMethods is becoming core to AI-ready architecture.

    5 min
  5. Guardrails for Growth: AI in Regulated Industries

    4 NOV.

    Guardrails for Growth: AI in Regulated Industries

    How do you enable AI inside one of the most highly regulated industries on the planet — without slowing the business or attracting regulatory heat?  In this episode, veteran financial-services CISO Parrish Gunnels joins Jo Peterson to break down the real playbook for operationalizing AI in banking environments.  This isn’t theory. It’s where risk appetite, regulation, and revenue meet reality.  We cover:  Why “turn off AI” was a knee-jerk — and why it can’t last Moving from prohibition to auditable enablement How financial-services CISOs model AI-risk in dollars Why human-in-the-loop is still non-negotiable Designing paved roads that stop Shadow AI The 90-day maturity model for regulated AI adoption Culture, training, and trust as the real control surface “There isn’t a great model for ROI in security… I think of it as downtime, reputational risk, lost revenue, and the cost of fines per record.” — Parrish Gunnels  If you’re in a regulated space — banking, healthcare, insurance, public sector — and trying to balance innovation with compliance, this one’s your blueprint.  🎧 Subscribe to stay in The Loop  🔗 Connect with Parrish on LinkedIn  🔗 Follow Jo for more executive AI + cyber insights  See you in the Loop.

    12 min
  6. Talk Dollars, Not FUD: The CISO’s New Mandate

    28 OCT.

    Talk Dollars, Not FUD: The CISO’s New Mandate

    Episode Description: In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with John Carse, Field CISO at SquareX and former CISO at Dyson and Rakuten, to talk about why modern CISOs must move beyond fear, uncertainty, and doubt — and start quantifying risk in business terms.  Carse explains how two levers — risk appetite and budget alignment — determine every security decision, and why the browser has become the new edge of enterprise risk. From AI prompt attacks to malicious extensions, Carse offers a practical blueprint for translating security posture into measurable business impact.  🎧 Listen to the full episode: ADD LINK 📬 Stay in the Loop: Subscribe for new episodes and resources — ADD LINK  Key Topics Covered:  Why “talking dollars, not FUD” earns board trust The connection between risk appetite and budget allocation The browser as the modern enterprise perimeter How the Field CISO role bridges business and technology Practical ways CISOs can quantify risk and value About the Guest: John Carse is a three-time CISO and currently serves as Field CISO at SquareX, helping enterprises defend against browser-based threats and translate security strategy into business impact. His previous roles include CISO positions at Dyson and Rakuten and security leadership at Expedia and JPMorgan Chase.  Additional Resources  Security Magazine: John Carse hired as Field CISO at SquareX The CISO Perspective with John Carse Podcast The Browser Blind Spot: Rethinking Enterprise Security

    23 min
  7. The Integration Imperative: Why AI Starts (and Succeeds) With webMethods Hybrid Integration | ClearTech Loop x IBM

    23 OCT.

    The Integration Imperative: Why AI Starts (and Succeeds) With webMethods Hybrid Integration | ClearTech Loop x IBM

    AI doesn’t fail because of bad models — it fails because of broken connections. Jo Peterson and David Linthicum unpack how IBM’s webMethods Hybrid Integration unites data, applications, and automation for AI that actually delivers.  Episode Description:  When it comes to AI success, it’s not just about the model — it’s about the movement of data.  In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with David Linthicum, Chief Analyst at Linthicum Research, to discuss why AI can’t scale without a strong integration backbone — and how IBM’s webMethods Hybrid Integration is changing that conversation.  They explore:  The five major challenges facing enterprise architects today Why AI fails without connected systems How webMethods Hybrid Integration bridges on-prem and cloud environments The shift from integration as “plumbing” to integration as “infrastructure” Real-world examples of companies modernizing safely and quickly David breaks down the patterns and pitfalls of enterprise integration — and why solving them is the foundation for secure, sustainable AI growth.  Guest:  David Linthicum  Chief Analyst, Linthicum Research  Host:  Jo Peterson  Chief Analyst, ClearTech Research  Subscribe to ClearTech Loop Newsletter: https://form.typeform.com/to/EESYYt4a

    7 min
  8. Bumpers, Not Brakes: Pragmatic AI Safety with Dutch Schwartz

    21 OCT.

    Bumpers, Not Brakes: Pragmatic AI Safety with Dutch Schwartz

    AI safety isn’t about slowing innovation — it’s about steering smarter. In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with Dutch Schwartz, Vice President of Cloud Services and fractional CISO at SideChannel, to talk about how CISOs can keep delivery velocity while adding the guardrails that actually reduce risk.  Dutch shares real-world lessons from the Cloud Security Alliance’s AI Safety Initiative — where both he and Jo serve as members — and explains how pre-approved AI patterns and identity governance are key to responsible innovation.  “It’s not about slamming on the brakes; it’s about putting up bumpers so you can move fast without ending up in the gutter.” — Dutch Schwartz  If you’re leading AI adoption inside your organization, this episode breaks down how to build controls that accelerate outcomes, not bureaucracy.  Timestamps  00:00 – Intro: What ClearTech Loop is and who Dutch Schwartz is  01:27 – Dutch’s background and role at SideChannel  03:13 – The “chaos manager” mindset in cybersecurity  04:13 – What makes the CSA AI Safety Initiative different  05:57 – How early AI adoption mirrors cultural waves  06:37 – The “bumpers, not brakes” analogy explained  08:15 – Why non-human identities will define the next phase of AI governance  10:02 – Translating CSA frameworks into practical, recoverable steps  12:15 – The quick hits CISOs need today  13:18 – Jo’s closing reflections and invitation to continue the conversation  Resources & Links  CSA AI Safety Initiative: https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/ai-safety-initiative CSA White Paper: AI Matrix Controls Previous Episode: The CSA AI Safety Initiative with George Finney Related Read by Dutch: Securing generative AI: Applying relevant security controls Guest: Dutch Schwartz — VP of Cloud Services and fractional CISO at SideChannel  Host: Jo Peterson — Chief Analyst, ClearTech Research  CTA Footer: ClearTech Loop is where AI, cloud, and security intersect — hosted by Jo Peterson.  New episodes drop weekly. See you in the Loop.

    14 min
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ClearTech Loop is a fast, focused podcast delivering sharp, soundbite-ready insights on what’s next in cybersecurity, cloud, and AI. Hosted by Jo Peterson, Chief Analyst at ClearTech Research, each 10-minute episode explores today’s most pressing tech and risk issues through a business-focused lens.  Whether it’s CISOs rethinking cyber strategy or AI reshaping risk governance, ClearTech Loop brings clarity to a shifting landscape—built for tech leaders who don’t have time for fluff.  We cut through hype. We rethink assumptions. We keep you in the loop.

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