Co-Creating the Third Attractor

Daniela Bomatter - Manifest Nirvana
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Across the world, a new conversation is emerging about the future of civilization. As old systems falter, one path points to collapse, another to control. But visionaries are calling for a Third Attractor: a conscious, regenerative, life-affirming future. Linked with ideas like Regenerative Civilization, Game B, Planetary Civilization, and the Second Renaissance, this series explores what must end, what wants to be born, and how we can co-create a future rooted in wholeness, interconnection, and evolution. (a podcast by Manifest Nirvana, https://www.manifest-nirvana.com)

  1. 21시간 전

    Brad Reynolds on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this deeply spiritual and philosophically rich conversation, Brad Reynolds argues that the real Third Attractor is ultimately an awakening attractor: a movement toward higher states of consciousness capable of integrating chaos and authoritarianism into a deeper civilizational coherence. Drawing on decades of work with Ken Wilber and the integral movement, Brad speaks passionately about the difference between “waking up” and true awakening, emphasizing that awakening cannot be reduced to meditation or transcendent states alone, but must include both Being and Becoming, spirit and evolutionary participation in the world. Together, we explore the metacrisis as fundamentally a spiritual crisis, the importance of devotional surrender, meditation, and embodied spiritual practice, and the need for a new integral culture that reconnects inner awakening with outer transformation. Again and again, Brad returns to the idea that genuine spiritual realization, not ideology alone, is what can become the deeper attractor guiding humanity toward a more coherent future. Brad Reynolds did graduate work at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) before leaving to work closely with Ken Wilber and the Integral Institute for nearly a decade (1995–2004). He is the author of two books on Integral metatheory (AQAL): Embracing Reality: The Integral Vision of Ken Wilber (Tarcher, 2004) and Where’s Wilber At? Ken Wilber’s Integral Vision in the New Millennium (Paragon House, 2006). A longtime devotee of Adi Da Samraj for more than 45 years, Brad has also written extensively on the world’s wisdom traditions, including two books on Adi Da and the Perennial Philosophy. His newest book, Meta-Perennial Philosophia: Integrating Evolution and Enlightenment (Bright Alliance, 2026), offers a synthesis of Integral Theory, the Perennial Philosophy, developmental spirituality, and the distinction between Becoming (evolution) and Being (Enlightenment). Brad is also a professional graphic designer and the founder of Integral Art & Studies in Marin County, California. Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment. As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself. She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com),  offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change. In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

    1시간 2분

  2. 1일 전

    Indra Adnan on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this profound and wide-ranging conversation, Indra Adnan challenges the urgency and crisis framing often surrounding the idea of the Third Attractor, suggesting instead that the current chaos may itself be part of a deeper evolutionary process rather than something to simply overcome. Together, Daniela and Indra explore the tension between emergence and agency, soft power and hard power, and the need to build living, attractive alternatives to existing systems through community, embodiment, art, relationship, and participatory culture. Indra speaks passionately about the importance of women holding wider fields of emergence, the rise of decentralized “islands of coherence,” and the possibility that humanity is already slowly reorganizing itself through local initiatives, regenerative communities, and new forms of collective intelligence. Rather than imposing another ideology from the top down, the conversation points toward a more relational, life-centered future in which people are brought back to aliveness, agency, and meaningful participation in the co-creation of culture. Indra Adnan is a writer, political thinker, psycho-social therapist, and systems innovator whose work over the past two decades has explored future politics, conflict transformation, soft power, and integral approaches to cultural change. She is the co-founder of The Alternative UK, a political platform dedicated to reimagining democracy and collective life beyond the limitations of current systems, and has worked extensively with governments, international organizations, and global networks including the World Economic Forum and NATO. Through her writing, network-building, and community initiatives, Indra has consistently explored how personal transformation, relational intelligence, and cultural evolution intersect. She is also the author of the book The Politics of Waking Up: Power & Possibility in the Fractal Age, which articulates a deeply interconnected vision for the future of society. https://indraadnan.global/ Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment. As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself. She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com),  offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change. In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

    1시간 34분

  3. 1일 전

    Samantha Sweetwater on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, Samantha and Daniela explore the Third Attractor as an already-emerging field of coherence arising in response to both chaos and authoritarianism. Drawing from evolutionary spirituality, ecology, and systems thinking, she speaks about “islands of coherence” forming across the world through people who are learning to listen deeply, surrender certainty, and respond from a place of interconnectedness rather than fear. Together, they reflect on the importance of not-knowing, embodied awareness, and the possibility that small but deeply connected nodes of consciousness can become tipping points for planetary transformation. The conversation moves fluidly between spirituality, systems change, Buddhist insight, and the practical challenge of remaining open and responsive in times of profound uncertainty. Samantha Sweetwater is a master facilitator, executive coach, and founder of One Life Circle. For over three decades, she has guided individuals and organizations across five continents through personal, cultural, ecological, and spiritual regeneration. Working at the fertile edge where old systems unravel and new forms of kinship and leadership emerge, she supports visionary leaders to reclaim wholeness, clarify purpose, and cultivate the moral imagination needed for this metacritical moment.She previously founded Dancing Freedom and Peacebody Japan, sparking a global movement of embodied awakening and training hundreds of facilitators. A former seed farmer, she carries a deep understanding of tending the real. Samantha holds an MA in Wisdom Studies, a BA in Social Theory and Dance, and has been initiated into indigenous lineages of Africa, Latin America, and Turtle Island. She lives on fog-kissed Coastal Miwok land.https://www.samanthasweetwater.com/Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment.As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself.She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com), offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change.In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

    1시간 25분

  4. 2일 전

    Brad Kershner on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this conversation, Daniela Bomatter speaks with Dr. Brad Kershner about the challenge of creating cultures that can truly hold complexity without collapsing into simplistic solutions or rigid systems. Brad questions many inherited assumptions within integral and spiritual discourse, especially the persistent binaries between inner and outer, individual and collective, agency and emergence. Drawing from complexity science, collective trauma research, and post-structural philosophy, he argues that the real challenge is not simply personal transformation, but learning to recognize and shift the deeper “assemblage structures” and narrative patterns that shape perception itself. Rather than advocating for grand ideological visions, he emphasizes the importance of micro-narratives, local sense-making, and practices that cultivate the capacity to move intelligently within uncertainty and ambiguity. The conversation becomes a nuanced exploration of how a future culture might emerge not through fixed answers, but through more adaptive, relational, and participatory ways of being together.Dr. Brad Kershner is an educational leader, consultant, keynote speaker, and scholar. He is the co-founder of a meta-political think tank - The Reconstitution Project - and is the author of Understanding Educational Complexity: Integrating Practices and Perspectives for 21st Century Leadership. In addition to his work in education, Brad collaborates with thought leaders, think tanks, and organizations from around the world who are engaged in developing wisdom-based responses to planetary problems. He is a graduate of The University of Chicago and Boston College. You can follow his work at integratedemergence.substack.com.Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment.As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself.She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com), offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change.In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

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  5. 4일 전

    Trish Blain on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this conversation, Daniela Bomatter speaks with Trish Blain, a facilitator and community builder whose lifelong work centers on a model she calls the Four Forces: connection, expression, purpose, and growth. Trish argues that these four drives are in constant tension with each other, and that the failure to hold those tensions consciously is what keeps individuals and collectives locked in cycles of compromise rather than genuine co-creation. Her term for the third attractor is "the irresistible future" -- a state so compelling that people move toward it not out of obligation but because it actually feels better than any available alternative. She is skeptical of both incremental reform and purely outside-the-system alternatives, proposing instead a strategy of "alive edges": creating on-ramps at the boundary of the existing paradigm so people can transition without having to make an impossible leap. The conversation also moves into the practical difficulties of physical community, the gap between online dialogue and the friction of shared life, and why so much of the current transformation work fails to attract people -- because it asks for sacrifice rather than demonstrating vitality.Trish Blaine is a facilitator, relational practitioner, and cultural innovator working at the intersection of consciousness, community, and collective intelligence. Her work explores how human beings can learn to meet one another with greater depth, honesty, and aliveness in a time of profound cultural transition. Drawing from years of experience in transformational practice, group facilitation, and emergent culture, she is particularly interested in the relational capacities needed for a more coherent and life-affirming future to emerge.More about her here: https://nonordinary.com/meet-trish/Trish also just launched a new platform which you can find here: https://aliveedges.comDaniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment.As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself.She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com), offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change.In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

    1시간 6분

  6. 5월 7일

    Steve McIntosh on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this conversation, Steve McIntosh engages from a firmly integral philosophy standpoint, and the exchange is in many ways a productive friction with the series framing itself. McIntosh takes issue with the "third attractor" terminology, arguing that Schmachtenberger's framing bypasses one of the central insights of integral thought: the dialectical structure of cultural evolution through thesis, antithesis, and synthesis. His core claim is that any vision of what comes next must reckon seriously with progressive postmodernism as its own distinct stage, not simply leap from modernity to some better future. From there, the conversation unfolds across the political implications of developmental philosophy, the limits of building movements versus writing books, the work of the Institute for Developmental Philosophy, and the deep tensions in approaching cultural evolution from a position that insists on transcending and including rather than rejecting. McIntosh is skeptical of AI as an existential threat while remaining clear-eyed about its real risks, and equally skeptical of economic proposals that would dismantle rather than build on modernity. Steve McIntosh is a philosopher of noosphere evolution whose work explores the development of consciousness, culture, and intrinsic value in our time. Influenced by thinkers such as Alfred North Whitehead and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, he writes in the emerging field of developmental philosophy, articulating how humanity can evolve beyond polarization toward more integrative forms of meaning-making. He is the author of several influential books, including Developmental Politics, The Presence of the Infinite, Evolution’s Purpose, and Integral Consciousness and the Future of Evolution, with his forthcoming book Truth Emerging continuing this trajectory. Since 2013, he has served as cofounder and president of the Institute for Developmental Philosophy. In addition to his philosophical work, McIntosh is an active public intellectual and social innovator. He has contributed political commentary to major outlets such as USA Today and RealClearPolitics, appeared on platforms including NPR and Rebel Wisdom, and co-created DepolarizingGPT, a political chatbot designed to foster more balanced perspectives. His work consistently bridges inner development and cultural transformation, offering a grounded yet visionary perspective on how a more coherent and evolved society could emerge. https://www.stevemcintosh.com/ https://www.developmentalphilosophy.org/ Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment. As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself. She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com),  offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change. In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

    1시간 18분

  7. 4월 22일

    Aterah Nusrat on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    In this conversation, Aterah Nusrat makes the case that the third attractor is not a future possibility but something already present, visible in the growing network of "islands of coherence" where people are working, in different ways and from different starting points, toward a more integral way of living and relating. The conversation moves into territory that is central to this series: the practice of intersubjective inquiry, the question of how collective states of consciousness are accessed and sustained, and what it would mean to bring those states out of laboratory conditions into actual culture. Aterah reflects on what was learned and what was missing in earlier experiments with group consciousness work, and what a more embodied, heart-informed approach to those spaces might look like. The two also examine the cognitive conditions for genuine openness: not the optimism that forecloses uncertainty, but the non-knowing that keeps action free. Aterah Nusrat is Director of Programming in Integrative Medicine and Planetary Health at the Osher Center for Integrative Medicine, Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women's Hospital. She holds an MSc in Environmental Technology from Imperial College London and certificates in climate change and health from HarvardX and the Yale School of Public Health. Her work connects integrative medicine with ecological sustainability, and she chairs the Osher Collaborative's Planetary Health Working Group. Alongside her professional career, she spent two decades in an international contemplative community within the eastern enlightenment tradition, an experience that deeply shaped her understanding of consciousness, collective life, and the relationship between inner practice and the world we inhabit. Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment. As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself. She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. From there, she also facilitates the activities of the online ashram (manifest-nirvana.com),  offering courses, dialogues, and retreats dedicated to evolutionary spirituality, collective awakening and cultural change. In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

    1시간 10분

  8. 4월 17일

    Alexander Beiner on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

    Alexander Beiner is a filmmaker and writer whose documentary "Leviathan" Daniela reads as a portrait of why a fundamental transition is needed. The conversation opens with his central argument: that Western civilization has inverted its hierarchy of reality. What is most real, embodied presence, authentic relationship, the private interior life, has been pushed aside by abstraction. The financial system is one example he reaches for, where most money is created from nothing by private banks, but the point is broader: again and again, fantasy has become more primary than lived experience.From there the conversation moves into the practical question of how people learn to inhabit relational spaces more fully, given that human connection is genuinely difficult. Beiner draws on Seth Godin's definition of culture as "people like us do things like this" to frame how shared values make that easier, and he references the work of facilitator Trish Blaine on what he calls the other person problem. He is drawn to psychedelics as one among several technologies of transformation, not as a shortcut but as a way of temporarily dissolving the abstractions that keep people from experiencing what is actually most real. The conversation holds a productive tension around the question at the series' heart: whether a better future is something to be actively co-created or something that has to be allowed to emerge, and Beiner is honest that he does not have a clean answer.Alexander Beiner is a writer, journalist, and facilitator focused on culture, systems change, and sensemaking in a complex world. He is best known as a co-founder of Rebel Wisdom, an alternative media platform (2017–2022) that explored topics such as polarization, consciousness, and the evolving cultural landscape through long-form conversations and events.He is the author of The Bigger Picture: How Psychedelics Can Help Us Make Sense of the World and currently leads Kainos, a storytelling and media studio focused on helping people navigate societal transformation. Beiner is also an executive director of Breaking Convention, Europe’s longest-running conference on psychedelic science and culture, and has facilitated workshops and experiences for thousands of participants worldwide.His work sits at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and cultural evolution, often exploring how new ways of thinking and inner development can help address today’s global challenges. here is the beginning of the AI-series Alxander mentioned: https://open.substack.com/pub/beiner/p/artificial-oracles-ai-and-the-future?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=weband here the documentary "Leviathan": https://beiner.substack.com/p/leviathan-full-documentaryDaniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born former software engineer and business leader who rose through various leadership positions to become CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland. After a successful career in technology and public service, her life took a transformative turn through the encounter with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and his teaching of Evolutionary Enlightenment.As a co-founder of Manifest Nirvana, Daniela has been a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment, living, studying, and working closely with Andrew Cohen from 2008 until his passing in March 2025. Her work continues to carry forward the essence of his vision—an awakening that is not separate from evolution itself.She now lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she founded and runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, a vibrant hub for spiritual practice, dialogue, and conscious community within a small sustainable village. In 2025, Daniela published her first book, The Viratya Myth Begins—a mythic-visionary narrative exploring the next step of human evolution through a fusion of story, philosophy, and consciousness inquiry.

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Across the world, a new conversation is emerging about the future of civilization. As old systems falter, one path points to collapse, another to control. But visionaries are calling for a Third Attractor: a conscious, regenerative, life-affirming future. Linked with ideas like Regenerative Civilization, Game B, Planetary Civilization, and the Second Renaissance, this series explores what must end, what wants to be born, and how we can co-create a future rooted in wholeness, interconnection, and evolution. (a podcast by Manifest Nirvana, https://www.manifest-nirvana.com)

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