Coffee Isn't Lunch

Maddi Cook & Hayley Jepson

Welcome to Coffee Isn't Lunch, the weekly podcast for ambitious hair and beauty professionals alike by your hosts Hayley Jepson and Maddi Cook. Hayley, aka The Resilient Hairdresser, is a former hairdresser and psychotherapist and now coach and educator. She is leading the industry out of burnout and into better mental health. And Maddi, aka Boss Your Salon - if you've ever asked anyone online about pricing, her name's probably come up. She's here to pull back the curtain on business strategy and help you get paid. And together, we're obsessed with ridding the industry of old school harmful hustle culture while cutting through the toxic positivity B.S.   Every Monday, we release a brand new episode bringing you industry hot takes actionable tips and plenty of real talk. So whether you're new to the industry or this isn't your first rodeo, we're here to help you build the business you deserve without burning out along the way. Follow Maddi on Instagram @itsmaddicook Follow Hayley on Instagram @the.resilient.hairdresser

  1. 03/24/2025

    62. Final Thoughts For Now...

    We’re wrapping things up (for now!) with a special countdown of your top five favourite episodes, which had you nodding, taking notes, and sending us all the love. From navigating tricky clients to exploring the link between money and success, we’re revisiting powerful convos around ADHD, setting boundaries, and pricing in the hair industry.  We’re also chatting about the emotional side of pricing and policies and how mindset and energy management can be total game-changers, especially if you’ve got ADHD. This isn’t goodbye forever, promise! Make sure you're following us on socials so you’ll be the first to know when we make our big return. See you soon!  Resources Mentioned: Hayley's Find Your Power Course Maddi's Free Pricing Masterclass This episode is sponsored by Timely, the world's smartest appointment booking software, designed to help you deliver exceptional client experiences. Visit gettimely.com and use code COFFEE50 to get 50% off your first 3 months. Watch Hayley's webinar to learn what you need to do to get sustainable success and break the burnout cycle for good, register here. CONNECT WITH US: Follow Maddi on Instagram @bossyoursalon Follow Hayley on Instagram @the.resilient.hairdresser Take a look at Maddi's website https://bit.ly/bossyoursalon SHOW SOME LOVE Loved this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on Apple podcasts or Spotify (thank you!) And don't forget to subscribe/follow the show so you never miss an episode!

    29 min
  2. 02/24/2025

    60. Sick Of Your Clients Contacting You Out Of Hours?

    Do you ever feel like your phone never stops pinging, even after hours? We totally get it! In this week’s episode, we’re diving into the all-too-relatable struggle of handling client messages outside working hours. From last-minute appointment requests to holiday-time DMs, we’re sharing our own experiences of feeling always on—and why setting boundaries is so important. We’ll chat about simple ways to reclaim your personal time, like booking systems, autoresponders, and even a dedicated work phone (absolute game changer!). But here’s the twist—while these messages can feel overwhelming, they’re also a sign that your business is thriving! Join us for a fun and insightful chat on how to keep your sanity and your success! This episode is sponsored by Timely, the world's smartest appointment booking software, designed to help you deliver exceptional client experiences. Visit gettimely.com and use code COFFEE50 to get 50% off your first 3 months. Watch Hayley's webinar to learn what you need to do to get sustainable success and break the burnout cycle for good, register here. CONNECT WITH US: Follow Maddi on Instagram @bossyoursalon Follow Hayley on Instagram @the.resilient.hairdresser Take a look at Maddi's website https://bit.ly/bossyoursalon SHOW SOME LOVE Loved this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on Apple podcasts or Spotify (thank you!) And don't forget to subscribe/follow the show so you never miss an episode!

    46 min
  3. 01/27/2025

    58. Where Did All My Profit Go?

    Feeling overwhelmed by tax season? You’re not alone! This week, we’re diving into the common struggles that self-employed folks and business owners face during this hectic time. We share our stories—like dealing with messy finances and those dreaded surprise tax bills—and why staying on top of things can make life so much easier. A little proactive financial management can go a long way, from tracking expenses and understanding what things really cost to planning ahead. But it’s not just about the numbers. Money stress is real, and we chat about how it affects us emotionally and the importance of charging what you’re truly worth. Tune in to see if this episode has the tips to tackle tax season with less stress! Resources Mentioned: Hayley's 121 Coaching Maddi's Pricing Calculator This episode is sponsored by Timely, the world's smartest appointment booking software, designed to help you deliver exceptional client experiences. Visit gettimely.com and use code COFFEE50 to get 50% off your first 3 months. Watch Hayley's webinar to learn what you need to do to get sustainable success and break the burnout cycle for good, register here. CONNECT WITH US: Follow Maddi on Instagram @bossyoursalon Follow Hayley on Instagram @the.resilient.hairdresser Take a look at Maddi's website https://bit.ly/bossyoursalon SHOW SOME LOVE Loved this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on Apple podcasts or Spotify (thank you!) And don't forget to subscribe/follow the show so you never miss an episode!

    38 min
  4. 12/16/2024

    55. BTS of Our Group Chat (ft. Emma Fowler and Vivienne Johns)

    We've talked a lot about our amazing group chat on the podcast, so we thought it was high time to introduce you to some of the incredible women behind it! In this episode, we sit down with Vivienne and Emma to chat about how we all bring something unique to the table, from Hayley's calming vibes to Emma's straight-talking honesty.  We discuss the ups and downs of the hair and beauty industry and how we lean on each other to get through it all. We also share some heartwarming moments about our growing businesses and friendships. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at our friendship and group chat! Connect with Vivienne: https://www.instagram.com/thehairdresserssocialclub Connect with Emma: https://www.instagram.com/emmafowlerhair This episode is sponsored by Timely, the world's smartest appointment booking software, designed to help you deliver exceptional client experiences. Visit gettimely.com and use code COFFEE50 to get 50% off your first 3 months. Watch Hayley's webinar to learn what you need to do to get sustainable success and break the burnout cycle for good, register here. CONNECT WITH US: Follow Maddi on Instagram @bossyoursalon Follow Hayley on Instagram @the.resilient.hairdresser Take a look at Maddi's website https://bit.ly/bossyoursalon SHOW SOME LOVE Loved this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on Apple podcasts or Spotify (thank you!) And don't forget to subscribe/follow the show so you never miss an episode!

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Welcome to Coffee Isn't Lunch, the weekly podcast for ambitious hair and beauty professionals alike by your hosts Hayley Jepson and Maddi Cook. Hayley, aka The Resilient Hairdresser, is a former hairdresser and psychotherapist and now coach and educator. She is leading the industry out of burnout and into better mental health. And Maddi, aka Boss Your Salon - if you've ever asked anyone online about pricing, her name's probably come up. She's here to pull back the curtain on business strategy and help you get paid. And together, we're obsessed with ridding the industry of old school harmful hustle culture while cutting through the toxic positivity B.S.   Every Monday, we release a brand new episode bringing you industry hot takes actionable tips and plenty of real talk. So whether you're new to the industry or this isn't your first rodeo, we're here to help you build the business you deserve without burning out along the way. Follow Maddi on Instagram @itsmaddicook Follow Hayley on Instagram @the.resilient.hairdresser