Cohort in Progress

Kevin Burgess

Cohort in Progress follows two Temple University Executive DBA students, Kevin Burgess and Ashwini Bhaskar, as they learn alongside leading scholars and practitioners. Through conversations with professors, executives, and researchers, the show bridges academia and practice and explores ideas that shape leadership, strategy, and decision-making in the real world.

Episodes

  1. Sep 25

    “My price went up.” Cindy Okosun & James Jeansonne on why they chose a DBA | Cohort After Dark

    Two more of Kevin’s classmates take the After Dark chairs, straight off a plane. Cindy Okosun runs data and digital transformation programs for multinationals and came to the DBA to close the gap she kept seeing between practice and theory. James Jeansonne is a marketing and PR leader from Ohio who finished his master’s at Temple over Zoom, heard a professor ask “who’s going to keep going?”, and five years later put his hand up. His kids are 21; they call him Dr. J. They get into why a DBA and not a PhD, the surprise nobody warns you about (the cohort itself), the alumnus who told them “my price went up,” a house full of scholars versus being the first in your family, and a long, honest stretch on AI: the eclipse you shouldn’t stare at, the tool that knows you versus the fresh account that doesn’t, and a Gen Alpha daughter who told her friend to use her brain. Kevin joins to ask about dissertation topics (top-management consensus in digital transformation; golden visas, Portugal and Ireland), the stack of unread books, and what it takes to fly in for a doctorate. Chapters0:00 Why a DBA? The gap between practice and theory2:53 “Because it’s there”: James’s reason, and Dr. J5:49 The interview with Dr. Lynne Andersson6:17 The biggest surprise: the cohort9:05 What happens after a DBA? “My price went up”12:15 First-gen versus a house of scholars14:15 AI: the eclipse you shouldn’t stare at20:36 The AI that knows you, and the one that doesn’t23:01 The class that surprised us: statistics26:06 Residency weekends and the DBA pen27:50 Kevin joins: dissertation topics32:10 Golden visas, Portugal and Ireland37:42 The books we’re not reading40:55 Flying in for a doctorate47:32 Wrap No script. No prep. Just real conversation after class. Cohort After Dark is the unscripted round-table series inside Cohort in Progress, a podcast from Temple University’s Executive DBA cohort, recorded in person in Philadelphia. Hosts: Kevin Burgess and Ashwini Bhaskar. Watch the video version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZzw51kS1IChapters, transcript and every episode: https://cohortinprogress.com/#ad-04Be a guest, or start a cohort in your city: cohortinprogress@gmail.com

  2. Sep 25

    “Daddy, I don’t want you to go to school.” Nathan Luce & Sade Thompson | Cohort After Dark

    Two of Kevin’s Executive DBA classmates pull up to the table for the most introspective After Dark yet. Nathan Luce grew up in Utah, ran an indoor soccer arena, played college soccer at 25, did cardiothoracic research at Penn and CHOP, got into med school and walked away, then worked his way up to practice manager, an MBA, and now a doctorate in IT strategy. Sade Thompson was born in Jamaica, raised in Harlem, interned at Atlantic Records at 19, spent five years as a celebrity stylist, went back for her bachelor’s during the pandemic, and hasn’t stopped since. They talk about choosing a dissertation you love versus one you can finish, the week when everything was due at once, who you’re allowed to complain to when you’re the first in your family to get here, and the mirror after graduation. Around the 20-minute mark Nate’s daughters, Lulu and Faith, climb onto his lap at the mic. Then Kevin sits down and it gets spicy: is using AI in a doctoral program cheating, or is not using it the red flag? Chapters0:00 Harlem and Utah2:47 Fatherhood, workload, staying true to yourself5:10 The dissertation dilemma6:52 The week everything was due9:05 Who are you allowed to complain to?15:02 Sade’s path: Atlantic Records to back-to-school20:20 Lulu and Faith join the table21:26 Nate’s path: soccer, med school, Penn and CHOP26:07 If you’re not uncomfortable you’re not growing28:32 The afterwards: becoming a researcher31:55 Dad guilt and residency weekends36:36 How do you want to finish?45:00 Kevin joins: who should read your dissertation?47:52 What do you want to be remembered for?50:22 Glamour versus hustle53:42 What does a doctor look like?1:01:14 The AI debate1:08:12 Wrap No script. No prep. Just real conversation after class. Cohort After Dark is the unscripted round-table series inside Cohort in Progress, a podcast from Temple University’s Executive DBA cohort, recorded in person in Philadelphia. Hosts: Kevin Burgess and Ashwini Bhaskar. Watch the video version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCVnVsIZZa4Chapters, transcript and every episode: https://cohortinprogress.com/#ad-03Be a guest, or start a cohort in your city: cohortinprogress@gmail.com

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Cohort in Progress follows two Temple University Executive DBA students, Kevin Burgess and Ashwini Bhaskar, as they learn alongside leading scholars and practitioners. Through conversations with professors, executives, and researchers, the show bridges academia and practice and explores ideas that shape leadership, strategy, and decision-making in the real world.