What does it look like when one of the more rare personality types in nonprofit leadership faces a 10% budget deficit, a structural crisis, and the weight of an impossible mission of ending homelessness? In this episode, we sit down with Lisa Strandberg, Executive Director of Pillars Inc., a housing and homelessness nonprofit in the Fox Cities, to explore how an ENTJ navigates uncertainty with systems thinking, calculated confidence, and a hard-won capacity for vulnerability. Lisa's path to nonprofit leadership is anything but conventional, from chemical engineer at Kimberly-Clark to freelance writer to executive director of a $5.5 million organization. Along the way, she's had to confront the shadow side of ENTJ leadership: the lone wolf tendency, the impatience, the impulse to forge ahead with a machete while the rest of the team is still at the edge of the jungle. In this episode you'll hear about: - What it means to "dominate" uncertainty and why Lisa prefers clarifying assumptions over sitting in anxiety - The ENTJ shadow: stuffing emotions, sprinting to the finish line alone, and learning to show your work - How she navigated a 10% structural budget deficit by inviting the community into the decision and why that changed everything - The difference between being the smartest person in the room and being a trusted partner - Why surrounding yourself with feelers isn't just good strategy, it's survival - What "limitless" leadership actually looks like when you're humble enough to crowdsource solutions Whether you're an ENTJ trying to understand your own wiring, a leader navigating impossible odds, or someone who works alongside a driven, fast-processing commander type, this episode will give you language, perspective, and a few good laughs along the way. Connecting the Dots is hosted by Steve Utech (Founder, illumyx) and Ryan Gracyalny (Director of Training & Development, The Utech Group). About Lisa Strandberg Lisa Strandberg is the Executive Director of Pillars Inc., a housing and homelessness nonprofit serving the Fox Cities with approximately 65 employees and a $5.5 million annual budget. A chemical engineering graduate turned nonprofit leader, Lisa brings a rare combination of analytical rigor, systems thinking, and hard-earned emotional intelligence to one of the most complex challenges in her community. 💼 Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lisa-strandberg-4a23715 🏠 Learn more about Pillars Inc.: pillarsinc.org ☕ Attend a Conversations Over Coffee event: pillarsinc.org/conversations-over-coffee ❤️ Support Pillars Inc.: pillarsinc.org/donations