Controlled Burn

Controlled Burn
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Hosted by OKCTL’s Brandon Fountain and Shane Davis, this podcast delivers thoughtful, well-informed coverage of Oklahoma’s cannabis industry. With a balance of expertise and approachability, the show explores current events, pending legislation, regulatory updates, and underreported issues affecting growers, testing labs, dispensaries, and everyday consumers across the state.

  1. 2D AGO

    Big Busts and Stitt’s Parting Shot with RedBilly Brand

    In this episode of The Controlled Burn, we sit down with Josh and Nick from RedBilly Brand to unpack what it’s like running a vertically integrated cannabis company in the middle of a regulatory crackdown. From surviving challenging surprises to navigating compliance when it feels like a moving target, we dig into the real cost of doing things the right way, and why so many others don’t. We also talk about Hao Chen, the raids tied to Operation Blunt Force, and what these high-profile busts really mean for the future of the market. Ron Durbin makes an appearance (of course), Kevin Stitt challenges the industry with an eyebrow-raising comment, and we break down what’s really happening behind the lawsuits, license drama, and lab games. Learn more about RedBilly Brand: https://www.redbilly.com/ Follow them on social media! 👤: https://www.facebook.com/redbillybrand 📸: https://www.instagram.com/redbillybrand/ ▶️: https://www.youtube.com/@RedBillyBrand Questions, complaints, or hot takes? Send them our way! 📧 team@controlledburn.live Need a quality lab that provides consistent and reliable results? 🌐 Okctl.com

    2h 52m

  2. JAN 30

    Sitting Down with the Man Himself: John Koumbis of JKJ

    In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon sit down with the man, the myth, the legend — John Koumbis of JKJ Processing. From freeze-dried bananas to the infused beef jerky story, John walks us through how he went from a steel‑walled vape shop dispensary to building one of the most recognizable edible brands in Oklahoma. We talk edible inconsistency in the early days, betting $7,000 on a freeze dryer, and why sometimes the best business move is simply showing up in person.  The conversation dives into brand building, sales philosophy, dealing with industry hate, staying authentic, and why putting your face on the bag might actually be the smartest marketing decision you can make. 📧: Team@controlledburn.live 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    2h 4m

  3. JAN 23

    Pod 34: OMMA’s Gray Zone and Other Industry Mysteries With Special Guest Dee Charlton

    OMMA’s gray zone is getting crowded, and no one’s making it out with clear answers. In this episode, Shane and Brandon are joined by Special Guest Dee Charlton from Very Impressive Processing and Dank Banq for a journey through weird sales stories, compliance limbo, and the awkward magic of pop-ups, group chats, and multi-flavor madness that may or may not be legal. You’ll laugh. You’ll learn. You might even file a metric ticket. We get into why OMMA’s legal inbox is basically a compliance graveyard, how sales reps are still oversharing in wild ways, what really goes down at pop-ups, and why the rules around product formats keep getting murkier. Wash your legs, don’t overshare your location, and buckle up.  Reach out to Dee! ☎️ (918) 998-5000 📧: Team@controlledburn.live 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    1h 37m

  4. JAN 16

    Allegedly, This Episode Contains Nothing Incriminating

    Shane and Brandon spiral through edible emergencies, mushroom missteps, and cannabis waste violations while actively trying not to say anything that could get them in too much trouble. Somewhere between compost tea conspiracies, dispensaries getting shut down, and ketamine therapy that may or may not show up in the mail, the conversation takes a hard left into mental health, veterans’ care, and why some “wellness” trends feel one Google search away from disaster. There are stories about edibles strong enough to end weddings early, microdosing experiments gone slightly sideways, sensory deprivation tanks that raise way too many follow‑up questions, and the unforgettable moment when a dog decided he was the alpha — and had to be reminded otherwise. Listen responsibly. Assume everything is alleged. And remember: if this episode sounds incriminating, that’s on you. 📧: Team@controlledburn.live 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    1h 9m

  5. JAN 9

    Inside the 2026 OMMA Public Comment

    In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down the 2026 OMMA public comment hearing and explain why this one actually mattered. From the tone of the room to the substance of the comments, they walk through what labs, operators, and industry advocates raised at the Capitol and how those concerns could shape Oklahoma cannabis moving forward. The conversation covers confirmation testing requirements that no longer align with current rules, inconsistencies between labs, and the growing demand for real metric data transparency. They also dig into the proposed shift away from administrative law judges, why that should worry licensees, and what fair sampling and oversight could realistically look like. Mixed in, as always, are real‑world stories, industry humor, and the kind of side conversations that only happen on Controlled Burn. OMMA Public Comment Meeting: youtube.com/watch?v=3UctdrntNZg&feature=youtu.be 📧: Team@controlledburn.live 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    1h 35m

  6. JAN 2

    Federal Rescheduling, Resolutions, and the Rise & Fall of AI

    We’re kicking off the new year with optimism, caffeine, and just a touch of existential dread. In this first episode of 2026, the Controlled Burn crew dives into the fallout of federal rescheduling, the shaky future of AI, and the annual tradition of pretending our New Year’s resolutions are going to stick. From compliance costs to 5 a.m. gym fantasies, it’s clear: the industry isn’t dead — but we’re all a little tired. Also, someone may have stolen a ranch cup. Allegedly. Send your thoughts (or resolutions you’ve already broken) to team@controlledburn.live. 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    1h 17m

  7. 12/19/2025

    Getting Real with Joshua Graston: Alchemist, Philosopher, & Friend of the Gas Station Bandit Part 2

    In part 2, the conversation dives even deeper, from loopholes in the new hemp bill to loopholes in reality itself. If Part 1 was spirit and story, Part 2 is science and systems…with just as much chaos. We unpack how the farm bill might reshape the entire supply chain, why the system’s still allergic to compliance, and what it’ll actually take to educate a generation raised on THC percentages. They dig into the coming cannabinoid shakeup, the difference between seeds and clones, why some pre-rolls taste like trauma and others like triumph, and how budtenders, patients, and even regulators are all suffering from a lack of real education. There’s Cowboy Cup talk, consumer trust talk, and plenty of reminders that real medicine never gatekeeps. 📧: Team@controlledburn.live 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    55 min

  8. 12/12/2025

    Getting Real with Joshua Graston: Alchemist, Philosopher, & Friend of the Gas Station Bandit Part 1

    In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon sit down with the one and only Joshua Graston — a cannabis alchemist, entrepreneur, modern-day philosopher, and the man who once turned down $65 million for his work. From trauma to transformation, Josh walks us through his wild personal journey, the science and spirit behind one-of-one medicine, and why he lives every day like he time-traveled back to it on purpose. They cover dopamine chases, quantum physics, car sales, collectibles, shadow work, and what it means to actually help people in an industry built on hype. It’s weird, it’s deep, it’s funny — and it’s only Part 1. 📧: Team@controlledburn.live 🌐: OKCTL.com 🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

    1h 29m
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Hosted by OKCTL’s Brandon Fountain and Shane Davis, this podcast delivers thoughtful, well-informed coverage of Oklahoma’s cannabis industry. With a balance of expertise and approachability, the show explores current events, pending legislation, regulatory updates, and underreported issues affecting growers, testing labs, dispensaries, and everyday consumers across the state.

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  • Creator
    Controlled Burn
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    37
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Controlled Burn
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